Wpob Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Regardless of how bad they beat the Colts and could have beaten them with regulation or over-inflated footballs, if they DID alter the footballs, it is cheating and man, does that look really bad for the Patriots. There are still people who believe they would not have won the Super Bowl without Spygate. Now, if THIS is true and they do beat the Seahawks, it will taint their wins, in some eyes, even more. I am all for competitive edges and bending of rules, but once you break them, your credibility is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The Patriots have now been to 6 Super Bowls, right? I find their credibility to be gaining, not lost. There are only a handful of model franchises. The Patsies are one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The Patriots have now been to 6 Super Bowls, right? I find their credibility to be gaining, not lost. There are only a handful of model franchises. The Patsies are one of them. They have been to 8 superbowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 They have been to 8 superbowls. Counting this one yes, with losses in all but that 3 times in 4 year span (SB 36-39). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 My bad...truly impressive. Shrunken balls are not a topic anyone is comfortable discussing, but going to the big dance 8 times should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I continue to lose more and more respect for a guy that should go down as one of, if not the best, coaches ever. It's a shame really. This is similar for me . As good as he is and what he has accomplished , too many smears have come up against him and things that he has done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishPride Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Not going to sit high and righteous on my honesty is best tower, so here we go, cheating is part of every sport in the world. Some individuals, teams and actual sports are better at it than others. Most rules are made to thwart the competitive nature of athletes? So as humans get bigger and stronger, faster and most of all physically superior to most. People will chase the competitive advantage, right or wrong? This was an obvious rules violation but was it the worse one all year? Probably not, they just got caught. I am not a purest, nor do I approve of cheating, but to Quote CC "Cmon Man!". We have become a society of under achievers looking the easy way? IF ITS FREE IT'S FOR ME MANTALITY? Everyone looks for angles, its just the moral dilemma, "To cheat or not?" I choose "NOT". Edited January 20, 2015 by IrishPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 So..has anyone proven any of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 So..has anyone proven any of this? Nope. The latest I've read has the NFL examining several balls which could take a couple days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm no Patriots fan, but I don't believe it until someone proves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm no Patriots fan, but I don't believe it until someone proves it I'm the same way, but considering their past, it wouldn't surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm no Patriots fan, but I don't believe it until someone proves it Agree. I would wager this (balls being shipped off to NY) happens a LOT more than is being let on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 Didn't a college ball boy or equipment person get busted and fired for the same thing last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 This is a blip on the radar in terms of tainting wins. Deflating footballs? Everything is a story these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rellen13 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Just another episode from "P.S. I. Indianapolis". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) NFL has found that 11 of the Patriots footballs used in Sunday’s AFC title game were under-inflated by 2 lbs each, per league sources. Edited January 21, 2015 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) NFL has found that 11 of the Patriots footballs used in Sunday’s AFC title game were under-inflated by 2 lbs each, per league sources. Oh honda. Edited January 21, 2015 by bud29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Wow - just so tacky and unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 So..has anyone proven any of this? I'm no Patriots fan, but I don't believe it until someone proves it NFL has found that 11 of the Patriots footballs used in Sunday’s AFC title game were under-inflated by 2 lbs each, per league sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It's time for Belichick to sit out a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Oh come on now. It's just pure coincidence... I respect the Patriots' long run of excellence, but I have to wonder why they had to resort to spygate and now this. There's only one place to point the finger and that's Belichick. He is the best single game planning coach in the NFL but he's put a taint on his accomplishments with all this crap that wasn't even necessary in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 This is not gonna end well. Maybe the Pats can claim the only used the one properly inflated ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 It will be very interesting to see how the NFL responds. If 11 of 12 Patriots balls were under inflated it will be interesting to see the test results of the footballs on the Colts sideline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hezagenius Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I saw on SC that the teams inflate the balls to wherever they want inside the range and then give them to the refs. This occurs sometime during the week. The refs are supposed to check the balls to make sure they are inflated within the range. Then the teams get the balls back a few hours before game time and are told not to alter them. Gimme a break. The NFL is just asking for it with rules like that. Why not just have the teams inflate them, turn them over to the refs and let the refs keep control of the balls? Seems like cheating was bound to happen eventually. I'm sure it's already happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) So I'm guessing some draft picks are gonna be stripped, a fine and/or suspension for Belichic and some pretty awesome Fan signs in the future. I wonder if they will censor those signs during the SB. Edited January 21, 2015 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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