Easttuth Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Our first year running a keeper league and a question has come up that we need help with Our rules are players can be kept for 2 additional years for the round they were drafted. If a player is picked up off waivers they can be kept for an 8th round pick. The question is, if a player was drafted but makes it to waivers and is picked up, has their keeper cost changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 A dropped player picked up off waivers would be an 8th round pick in that case. The waiver portion would override the original pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easttuth Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 Understood and that's obviously one side of that equation. Let's assume what you're saying is true, if you have the #1 waiver spot for this week why wouldn't you drop Adrian Peterson and pick them back up so you can keep them in the 8th round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faceplant Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm pretty sure you can't do that. I believe the software is setup that everyone else gets first priority over a person that you drop, so you're waiver priority on that person becomes last. I'm not sure if that mimics the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm pretty sure you can't do that. I believe the software is setup that everyone else gets first priority over a person that you drop, so you're waiver priority on that person becomes last. I'm not sure if that mimics the NFL. In MFL you certainly can do it ... unless you set a player lock period. In our league the players are locked for a week; i.e. once cut they have to go through a waiver period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Understood and that's obviously one side of that equation. Let's assume what you're saying is true, if you have the #1 waiver spot for this week why wouldn't you drop Adrian Peterson and pick them back up so you can keep them in the 8th round? That is a gap that you can address with the rules ... by adding something like when you cut a player you can't reacquire said player until a period of time, say 2 weeks, has elapsed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easttuth Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 In ESPN you can do it. We've had people do it before, although not for the keeper purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easttuth Posted September 26, 2015 Author Share Posted September 26, 2015 I agree, but it wasn't addresses before someone doing it so now we need to make a ruling on that particular transaction. My understanding was any player drafted was kept at the round they were drafted and it didn't matter what happened during the regular season. Other have played in leagues before that used the waiver rule that resets the round cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 obviously that's a loophole that shouldn't be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I play in a league with similar setup and we have a rule specifically preventing that. We also, as a group, agree to not game the system and when new loopholes are found we close them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted Goings Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I don't think you can penalize the guy who did it if there was no rule against it. He found a grey area and exploted it. If you don't squash it now though,it could really hurt you next year if half the teams have a 1st round pick in the 8th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I play in a league with similar setup and we have a rule specifically preventing that. We also, as a group, agree to not game the system and when new loopholes are found we close them.Yeah. What the op is suggesting is pretty fn slimy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colkurtz Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Just because the rule wasn't spelled out doesn't mean you can't reverse it. Are you the commish? If not, get the commish -- or unanimous vote aside from the offending owner -- to state that this won't be honored for 8th round pick, but rather where he was originally drafted. Give him his top waiver position back. If next year is the 3rd year for AP and thus no longer eligible for keepr, he goes back on the draft board. It's a game. Spirit of the law is often same as letter of the law. If he refuses, he's still eligible for payouts this year but won't be invited back next year. Get someone else to take over his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Draft choice should over ride all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easttuth Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Understood. I think this post has given the same variety of opinions our league is coming up with. I don't think the guy is trying to cheat, he just thought he found a loophole and he fully thinks everyone else will use the same loophole if his move is allowed to stand. This is our first year of keepers and we truly didn't think about this when designing the rules. We will likely just reverse it and not allow anyone to do it as it would just cause everyone to do it and then it's all useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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