grgunderson Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 A trade was proposed in my league and is set to be processed on Tuesday, after Week 5's games. One of the owners is requesting that the LM expedite it so that he can play his acquisition on Sunday. Should it be expedited or should he have to wait? He doesn't have another player to replace him on his roster but he still can go to the waivers and play his new guy the following week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Rule #1: What do the rules say? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Rule #1: What do the rules say? this. but.....assuming you had some sort of default league settings on whatever site you play on and never considered that they lock once games on Thur start, you may need to amend your current rules, in-season, assuming the rest of the league is OK with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 It's via ESPN and the rosters don't lock after thurs games, they lock @ the start of each game. He still has time to pick up someone off waiver before sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 It's via ESPN and the rosters don't lock after thurs games, they lock @ the start of each game. He still has time to pick up someone off waiver before sun. then his trade should process now and not Tue unless some sort of default league settings on whatever site you play on and never considered that they lock once games on Thur start, you may need to amend your current rules, in-season, assuming the rest of the league is OK with it. Did one of the players play on Thur? There is no reason it should wait until Tue otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 you may need to amend your current rules, in-season, assuming the rest of the league is OK with it. Did one of the players play on Thur? There is no reason it should wait until Tue otherwise. agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) It's Charles Clay for Melvin Gordon, so neither have played yet. I am assuming its saying tuesday bc the trade was made on Fri and ESPN's default rules say that it is a 2 day review period. So the trade would go through after the buffalo game started. Edited October 11, 2015 by grgunderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 can o' worms I hate leagues that review trades. Let the owners run their own teams. No need for a review, let alone 2 days of reviews that blocks trades getting done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 That has to be the reason why. It gives the other owners ample time to review the trade. It's unfortunate that his current TE was ruled out on Fri but they, manure happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 That has to be the reason why. It gives the other owners ample time to review the trade. It's unfortunate that his current TE was ruled out on Fri but they, taco happens. (the really bad word) the other owners. They have nothing to do with the trade...this is ESPN default setting BS. Process the man's trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobwaa Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 put it through-- the guy put together a good trade to fill a hole before the games start --- he shouldn't be penalized because of janky default settings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Not sure why anyone didn't check the settings before the season started 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't agree. The review period allows other owners the ability to veto in case of shady things like collusion. I think 2 days may be a bit much and will recommend it be reduced to one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Not sure why anyone didn't check the settings before the season started and that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I don't agree. The review period allows other owners the ability to veto in case of shady things like collusion. I think 2 days may be a bit much and will recommend it be reduced to one.no vetoes. But that's been played to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Is someone involved in the trade that plays for Indy/Houston? If not then you as the commissioner should approve it. Once accepted the players should be moved, unless someone in the trade has already played this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolly Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I actually hate amending rules mid season just for the benefit of one owner. Especially an owner who should have seen clear as day that the trade would be processed on Tuesday. It's part of managing your team and regardless of if 2 days is viewed as too long, it was not an issue I assume until this trade came up. This being said I would still talk to the two teams the owners are facing this week, as they will be directly affected by this amendment. If they are okay with it then change the review period to 1 day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) From my leagues' by-laws: ¨ Late trades: Trades accepted Friday through Saturday at 8:00pm (“Late Trades”) will be manually processed on Sunday morning, if possible, and will be effective for Sunday's games. Processing Late Trades in time for Sunday’s games is not guaranteed. Managers should check after 8:00pm on Saturday to see if any Late Trades have been posted. Protests to Late Trades must be announced on the league message board by Saturday 11:00pm Eastern time. At least two protests against a Late Trade are required to postpone it from being processed pending Commissioner review. Trades posted after 8:00pm on Saturday are subject to the normal 2-day waiting period and will be effective for the following week’s games. For Thursday night games, trades accepted by Wednesday at 8:00pm Eastern time will be processed before Thursday’s kickoff, absent protests. Edited October 11, 2015 by Dcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smales Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 You can't change the rules mid-season, opens a whole other can of worms to change other rules IMO. Chalk it up to a proposed rule change for next year and unfortunately the owners will have to live with it, they should have known the rules and the deadlines. If they didn't they will surely know them for the rest of the season. Agreed, that rule is kind of crappy, but it is the rule everyone needs to live by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 You can't change the rules mid-season, opens a whole other can of worms to change other rules IMO. Chalk it up to a proposed rule change for next year and unfortunately the owners will have to live with it, they should have known the rules and the deadlines. If they didn't they will surely know them for the rest of the season. Agreed, that rule is kind of crappy, but it is the rule everyone needs to live by. I disagree. If the whole league agrees to a rule change I don't see a problem. The issue was mainly caused because no one checked the default settings until now. This comes up in a lot of leagues that don't check the setting defaults on websites. But if everyone agrees that the default is stupid, change it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 You set your rules and play by em. Our league has 1 IR spot for a player listed as OUT. Early in the season I had one team in the league with like 7 guys injured and I SO wanted to amend it to help this cat out. But that's not right. Thankfully, he managed things and some of his injured players ended up playing, but making a change in mid stream is terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Presuming neither party explicitly knew the rules since they were just the default ones on ESPN, you'd assume the trade was done with both playing expecting their new acquisition to play this week. The guy who got Charles Clay might be quite happy about the two day wait now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Presuming neither party explicitly knew the rules since they were just the default ones on ESPN, you'd assume the trade was done with both playing expecting their new acquisition to play this week. The guy who got Charles Clay might be quite happy about the two day wait now though. I was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grgunderson Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 At the end of the day it was a trivial issue. They missed the window by 7 and some change hours. Had someone presented a valid argument, I might have pushed it through. The thing that really irked me was his rationale. He made a mistake by not checking/knowing the rules and his logic was: "The reason why you should expedite it is because I need him for tomorrow." No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 This is why I put trades through as soon as I can after the trade is agreed upon... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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