Inziladun Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I've only been playing FF for 3 years but I've never seen this many injuries before in my years of watching Football. Have you guys noticed there has been a larger amount of injuries than usual piling up this year? Do you think it has anything to do with the new tackling rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 More of the limited conditioning and activities allowed at practice these days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Concussion protocol stuff is adding to it some, but BJ hit the major issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 More of the limited conditioning and activities allowed at practice these days. This The players wanted softer practices ... and now the players are softer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inziladun Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 I actually hadn't heard anything about that, I don't tend to pay attention to off the field issues, just games. Dunno how Millionaire Athletes can complain about hard practices, even third stringers make a pretty good living for just working out all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I actually hadn't heard anything about that, I don't tend to pay attention to off the field issues, just games. Dunno how Millionaire Athletes can complain about hard practices, even third stringers make a pretty good living for just working out all the time. If you're going to play FF you'll need to start paying attention to a lot more than just games. Coaching changes, rule changes, many things can impact this game. The reason they can complain is because they have very short careers (something like 3-5 years for the average player signed by an NFL team) and when they're done playing many have crippling injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inziladun Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Many or some? I think to say the majority of people who play in the NFL have crippling injuries is ludicrous, so I'm sure that's not what you meant.. I've met quite a few ex-Jags players, nobody ya'll would know just no names that played the game. One guy talked to me about going up against Randy Moss and how that was, very interesting guy to talk to. They didn't seem to have any crippling injuries, most of the people I've seen that have retired didn't seem to have any crippling injuries. I did recall hearing about a few people having some serious brain issues due to concussions and happen to think the new concussion protocol is a good idea, probably. I guess it's more of a question if ANY is too much. And if it is, you might as well go to full non-contact, but even then there's SOME people who suffer life-long injuries from sports like Basketball, Baseball, and Soccer. We are not all created equal, and there's no easier way to witness that than in our physical capabilities, some peeps just gonna have a hard time wear-n-tear wise. Edited October 14, 2015 by Inziladun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think it is more than crippling injuries. I think the players were arguing that the years of relentless punishment their bodies take during the course of the careers causes their bodies to deteriorate and break down much more quickly than the average person. And while their NFL career may be short (3 to 5 years) it generally started when they were in middle school and included all those countless games, practices (sometimes 2 to 3 practices a day). And I suspect the punishment level in the NFL is much more than at the other levels ... and by the time you get to the NFL you have already endured years of punishment. So all things considered in the last CBA talkes the NFLPA pushed for lighter and less frequent practices in the hopes this would preserve the after NFL health ... and they got it. So now many high schools have harder and tougher practices than the NFL does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 It's a new kind of sand being stuffed into everyone's v*gina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Purses are part of the dress code these days too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ted Goings Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Did I hear someone say concussion protocol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobwaa Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 no you didn't.... move along! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Many or some? I think to say the majority of people who play in the NFL have crippling injuries is ludicrous, so I'm sure that's not what you meant.. I've met quite a few ex-Jags players, nobody ya'll would know just no names that played the game. One guy talked to me about going up against Randy Moss and how that was, very interesting guy to talk to. They didn't seem to have any crippling injuries, most of the people I've seen that have retired didn't seem to have any crippling injuries. I did recall hearing about a few people having some serious brain issues due to concussions and happen to think the new concussion protocol is a good idea, probably. I guess it's more of a question if ANY is too much. And if it is, you might as well go to full non-contact, but even then there's SOME people who suffer life-long injuries from sports like Basketball, Baseball, and Soccer. We are not all created equal, and there's no easier way to witness that than in our physical capabilities, some peeps just gonna have a hard time wear-n-tear wise. Some, maybe many. I didn't mean majority (forgot many has that connotation/meaning), I simply meant more than just a few. And they may not be debilitating (bedridden, brain damaged) but have a major impact on their quality of life (bad legs make it hard to walk, fingers broken many times [linemen] create issues with hand strength and flexibility). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The push for softer practice from the NFLPA (I think) had more to do with mitigating risk of injury at practice. More hitting = more opportunity for injury. What they failed to account for is that the game intensity will never decrease and now their bodies are less prepared for it early in the season, which has likely increased the overall risk of injury. This topic could use a systematic study to see how much (or if at all) injury rates have changed. I feel like we have this thread every year, so it could just be a bunch of recency bias. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inziladun Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Bumping this up in light of the past 5 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The strength and conditioning coaches don't get like any time with them anymore so they only focus on large muscles and don't have time to help them develop the tiny muscles and ligaments. That's why you're seeing so many joint and ligament injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Plus, what others mentioned about the lack of contact in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Named Suh Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The strength and conditioning coaches don't get like any time with them anymore so they only focus on large muscles and don't have time to help them develop the tiny muscles and ligaments. That's why you're seeing so many joint and ligament injuries. I was on this website that was advertising pills that can help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert terni Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 ya in 15 yrs of playing this game I've never seen so many injuries in my life in 1 season...The RB position alone is pretty much depleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreCowbell Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 They get hurt because football is a brutal, beautiful sport. I have to guess that several people on here played HS football and perhaps further. I played HS, and then played small time DII NCAA ball. The quantum leap from HS was astronomical. Boys grow up, get bigger & faster. I cannot imagine the NFL level. It's really beyond description, at my infinitesimal level, the pain and injuries they suffer. I've had five knee surgeries and will have a double knee (both at once) replacement in the next five years. The surgeon said on my last MRI, the good knee, that I had an 80 year old knee (54 btw). He asked if I played football and then said "yep, the usual". It is absolutely brutal sport, beyond description. Btw, wouldn't change a moment of it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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