Boy Named Suh Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) So I accidentally hijacked the Matt Forte thread and it turned into a ROY conversation, so to get that thread back on track, here's a ROY thread.As a frame of reference, here are the last 5 ROY winners and their numbers.Sam Bradford 3512 yards passing, 18 passing TDs, 15 Int, 63 yards rushing, 1 TDCam Newton 4051 yds passing, 21 passing TDs, 17 Ints, 706 yds rushing, 14 TDsRG3 3200 yds passing, 20 passing TDs, 5 Ints, 815 yds rushing, 7 TDsEddie Lacy 284 carries, 1178 yds, 11 rushing TDs, 257 yds rec, 0 TDs recOBJ 12 games, 91 receptions, 1305 yds rec, 12 TDs recNow, here are the names being thrown around this year through 10 weeksTodd Gurley 6 Games Played, 130 carries, 709 yds rushing, 5 TDs, 132 yds recKarlos Williams 6 GP, 58 carries, 360 yds, 5TD, 72 yds rec, 2 TDs recAmari Cooper 9 GP, 50 receptions, 732 yds, 4 TDsStefon Diggs 6 GP, 30 receptions, 507 yds, 2 TDsObviously Gurley is the popular favorite, but if Cooper finds the end zone with more consistancy, he has to be up there too. If Karlos finds the end zone against the Patriots, he has the record for a rookie scoring in their first 7 games. Does that put him in the running even though he has less than half the total carries of Gurley, or would he need to score a TD in every game ROS to make up for the lack of carries? Would that even be enough? If the Bears shut down Forte to preserve his trade value, can Langford get into the conversation?Any other names i'm forgetting?Edit...my fault. Forte is a free agent next year, so trade value doesn't matter. Wishful thinking from a Langford owner and MSU alum. Edit...Should Jameis be in the conversation with 2159 yds passing, 10 TDs, 9 Ints, 119 Rushing yds, 4 TDs? Edited November 19, 2015 by Boy Named Suh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raulmz Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Gurley is a beast! If he can stay healthy and somehow the Rams start playing better the has a lot of high ceiling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theirish Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 i think this is a 2 man race with Gurley and Cooper...However if Gurley can keep up what he has been doing, he will run away with the ROY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Cooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think Gurley will take it if he continues to be this dominant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 i think this is a 2 man race with Gurley and Cooper...However if Gurley can keep up what he has been doing, he will run away with the ROY. I agree and I think the deeper the year gets, the more Cooper falls behind Gurley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Looks likes Gurley's to lose IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I thnk Cooper will beat out Gurley but will be close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Gurley, easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Named Suh Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Gurley, easily. I'm not questioning that Gurley is the front runner, but to say that he has it wrapped up is going too far, in my opinion. If Cooper has a two TD game this week (entirely possible against Detroit) then he becomes the front runner to me. He has played every game this season, and has more yards receiving than Gurley has rushing so far. That is not to be taken lightly, in my opinion. Some may see Gurley's numbers as more impressive because it is in less games, but I see Copper as being more impressive because he didn't have to sit any games due to injury. Speaking of which, this is all assuming that Gurley stays healthy and productive (a lot longer season than college, and don't forget that he only played in 6 games at Georgia in '14 due to suspension and injury so there will be a concern that as the season progresses, he may run out of steam), which is why I called this the Too Early ROY Thread. There is still a lot of season left. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Winston work his way into the discussion if they make the playoffs, which is still a possibility. I think that Diggs still has time to make a case, but he better blow up every game ROS. Edited November 21, 2015 by Boy Named Suh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I agree and I think the deeper the year gets, the more Cooper falls behind Gurley. A reading from the Prophet Dorey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Named Suh Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Where are we at now? I definitely think Cooper has closed the gap if not taken the lead. Edited November 29, 2015 by Boy Named Suh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Named Suh Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) So where is everyone at now? Gurley is falling off the map thanks to an anemic O-Line. Cooper is staying pretty solid. Winston is looking good. I'd also like to throw out a couple of defensive names in Ronald Darby and Marcus Peters. They are both playing at a very high level, and are arguably the best DBs on their teams as rookies. Edited December 8, 2015 by Boy Named Suh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I may change my vote Defensive players get no love in these votes. If the Mariota and Winston keep playing well they'll make a push IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Gurley needs to finish strong, otherwise the case can be made for Mariota, maybe Cooper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Gurley needs to finish strong, otherwise the case can be made for Mariota, maybe Cooper. I wouldn't overlook Winston either ... he is playing some seriously good football right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 So where is everyone at now? Gurley is falling off the map thanks to an anemic O-Line. Cooper is staying pretty solid. Winston is looking good. I'd also like to throw out a couple of defensive names in Ronald Darby and Marcus Cooper. They are both playing at a very high level, and are arguably the best DBs on their teams as rookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Named Suh Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 Thanks...fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Mariota and Winston are definitely in the mix. With the Rams bringing the suck, Gurley's production has suffered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Named Suh Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Yeah, I don't see making a case for Mariota and not for Winston. Winston (3,037) has more total yards by 276 yards, more TDs (22) by 1 and more INTs (11) by 2. Gurley is about to break 1,000 total yards, but 6 TDs is pretty low. Cooper is sitting at 920 yards and still only has 4 TDs, and probably out of the running unless he blows up in the next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpob Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 If Cooper has two more big games (100 yards and a TD) then it is his to lose. I feel Gurley has run out of steam due to the Rams being awful. Winston and Mariota are closing the gap quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 OROY: 1. Gurley, but barely. Needs to pick it up or he'll drop very soon. 2. Cooper - Kind of unspectacular due to the lack of TDs, but still the best rookie WR this year. On pace for a 1,200 yard season. 3. Winston - has improved a TON since week 1. Could be the favorite by the end of the season, if he keeps this up and the rams keep sucking. 4. Mariota - on the outside looking in IMO, I think right now it's a horse race between Gurley/Cooper/Winston. DROY: 1. Darby - this should be pretty much unanimous. It's very possible that he's a pro bowler this year. A lot of people will put Peters in this conversation, and while he's been very good, he's also been very inconsistent (which is normal for a rookie CB, just not DROY worthy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raulmz Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Wiston and Mariota playing really good football.. Edited December 9, 2015 by raulmz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I think if Winston can get the Bucs in the playoffs he will lock it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 It's got to be Winston. The guy has played really well for the Bucs. Mariota has also done a good job with a team limited in talent. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Mariota didn't jump to the top with that 87 yard TD run last week. None on the llst has overly impressed me save Gurley. However, he's played only 6 games. He would have to really turn it on down the stretch to win it over the two QB. Cooper also could rally but he too hasn't played been dominate is the last few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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