k_23 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 This is a one keeper league, lose draft pick for the round they were drafted... 9th round if player was picked up as free agent. This is a 10 team PPR league as well Who would you keep pick one and why. Thanks in advance Cam Newton value 9th round value Le'Veon Bell value of 1st round (I traded for him ...then he got hurt) David Johnson Value of 9th round I like Bell, but Cam and David Johnson had a huge year as well. David Johnson will probably move to full time starter for next year with pass catching and hard running style. Cam has been playing great and get KB back next year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I would go with David Johnson because he is the best value. You are getting a top-10, potentially top-5 running back in the ninth round at a position that has very little studs. There are just too many quarterbacks that dilute the value of Cam. You can get someone similar to him in the 7th/8th round. You won't be able to get a similar running back that late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_23 Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Do you guys think Le'Veon Bell will be a top 5 overall fantasy player next year even with the injury? Will D Williams handcuff Bell next year and Chris Johnson handcuff David Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I would take Cam because he's a 9th round value and top points scorer. You can take maybe David Johnson or a chance for Bell with your first round pick and have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmeout Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I would keep David Johnson as a 9th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) I would take Cam because he's a 9th round value and top points scorer. You can take maybe David Johnson or a chance for Bell with your first round pick and have both. Do not listen to this. There is no reason to keep a quarterback unless you start 2 of them. There are so many of them that are of starting caliber. There are not the same number of running backs. You need to keep either Bell or Johnson, but Johnson is supremely more valuable with his 9th round cost. Edited January 28, 2016 by jkraft896 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Cam 400 plus points this year, Kelvin Benjamin back enough said. You still get picks in round one through 8 I suppose. Johnson is second but, C Johnson will come back for certain, Ellington isn't going anywhere as well. Bell gets hurt to often to take. If you can get Cam and Johnson that's a bonus. Why wouldn't you keep Cam? You still have a first round pick right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Cam 400 plus points this year, Kelvin Benjamin back enough said. You still get picks in round one through 8 I suppose. Johnson is second but, C Johnson will come back for certain, Ellington isn't going anywhere as well. Bell gets hurt to often to take. If you can get Cam and Johnson that's a bonus. Why wouldn't you keep Cam? You still have a first round pick right? I am done trying to explain why a potential stud at a scarce position is more valuable than a stud at position full of studs. If you don't get it that's alright, but Cam Newton should not be kept over those other two. For the record, I would expect the Cardinals to move forward with DJohnson as the guy. Ellington can't stay off the IR and Chris Johnson was having a nice season but the dude is on his last leg in this league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 CJ is healthy now and why can't he have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 CJ is healthy now and why can't he have both. He can only keep one player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Yes but he will still get a first round pick right? Just not a 9th so, could keep Cam and depending on his first round spot still get a stud RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I typically subscribe to the whole "wait on QB" thing, but getting Newton at 9th round value is just sick as all hell. David Johnson's showed that he can put up nice numbers but Chris Johnson will get some looks in that offense. Gotta go Cam there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Newton 35 throwing td's 10 rushing td's avg 40 yards a game. Top 15 as just a rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_23 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 I see the value of keeping Cam or David Johnson at 9th round value...but Leveon Bell in 1st is hard to pass up. I am still torn without Bells injury it is no brainer...I would have the 7th pick in first round as well by final finishing position in 10 team ppr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 7Th pick gets you a David Johnson or stud WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesSven Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 How many players do you start in each position? Either way, you simply have to keep David Johnson. As others have said before me, there are enough QBs for everyone to get a viable starter (especially in a 10 team league). Plus if you really want Cam that much you just pick him in the 3rd round. Cam has been awesome this year, but Panthers have also played about the softest schedule in NFL history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 You can get both either way I feel. Johnson should be around in 7th pick. But he's right in one aspect. Take your 7th pick for stud WR, take Cam in 3rd and have Johnson already. Cam, Robinson and Johnson good 1,2,3 punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_23 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 You guys would not keep Leveon Bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Not for a 2nd round loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 If you really want to keep LeVeon Bell then I would say hope that he falls to 7th, but you can't sacrifice your first round pick for him when you have Cam and DJ in the 9th. Just try to feed your league doubt about Bell as you make this decision so maybe they will let him fall. "Man, I am just scared the Bell is going to get hurt again this season." "Do you guys think that DeAngelo Williams will eat into Bell's carries next season because he played so well?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gronk87 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=579160 Cam and not even close. David Johnson could be the next CJ Anderson. Bell is too fragile too be a Keeper. Plus Cam in the 9th round can't be beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 It's a toss up between Johnson and Newton. I don't think Newton will have the same numbers as he did this season (consider the much more difficult schedule he will have next season) but for a 9th round pick that's an absurd amount of value. I'd only lean towards Johnson because it's a PPR league and I think you're going to see him catch 50 - 60 passes next season on top of his rushing. There is no guarantee the Cards re-sign Chris Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=579160 Cam and not even close. David Johnson could be the next CJ Anderson. Bell is too fragile too be a Keeper. Plus Cam in the 9th round can't be beat David Johnson is a fast, powerful runner. He has showcased his ability all year in the return game. The dude is a homerun waiting to happen. He is a great pass catcher. He can block. He has all the tools to be a 3-down back in this league. He is nothing like CJ Anderson who is a small guy, that looked deceptively good because he played on a great offense with a quarterback that got their team in the right play like 90% of the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I am going to put this Cam Newton nonsense to bed. I will use the scoring settings from my 0.5 PPR league as a reference because I don't know all the scoring for k_23's league. Cam Newton scoring = 384.5 points The number 10 QB (Kirk Cousins) = 290.5 points That equates to a difference of 94 points, and this would be if he got the 10th best quarterback which I am not necessarily advising. The difference between Cam and Blake Bortles who was 6th was just 66 points. Now I will give you the difference between David Johnson and the running back 20 spots below him (10 teams X 2 starters). Take note this is even a generous comparison because they have a flex position that could allow for teams to grab more than 2 good running backs. It's also generous in the fact that David Johnson was the starter for 6 weeks. David Johnson (finished as the 8th best running back for the SEASON) - 193 points 20 spots below him was Eddie Lacy with 131 points That is a 62 point difference. 62 points and the guy only started 6 games. Guys David Johnson outscored in 6 games as a starter...Forte, Ivory, Murray (both of em), Gore, McCoy, Hill, Stewart, Lacy, Anderson, Yeldon Come on people. This is David Johnson no question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGDAWGS2 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ellington will be cut, C Johnson will be back as David Johnson's backup. Bank it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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