AX2RUN Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Daaaaaaaaaang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 So (the really bad word)ing stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 https://www.google.com/amp/www.patspulpit.com/platform/amp/2016/4/25/11502824/deflategate-report-us-court-of-appeals-re-suspends-patriots-qb-tom?client=safari# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Tell me he didn't see this coming tho, under his previous contract he would have lost around 2 million. After restructuring his contract recently he stands to lose 200k 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Taxpayer money well spent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Tell me he didn't see this coming tho, under his previous contract he would have lost around 2 million. After restructuring his contract recently he stands to lose 200k  It wouldn't surprise me if this causes the league to change how they fine players. To be fair, a player should also have to pay a proportionate amount of their signing bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 It wouldn't surprise me if this causes the league to change how they fine players. To be fair, a player should also have to pay a proportionate amount of their signing bonus. Saw his 2017 salary is also just 1 million, maybe that is planning for future suspensions or a way to?explain it wasn't to avoid him losing money while suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkraft896 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Tell me he didn't see this coming tho, under his previous contract he would have lost around 2 million. After restructuring his contract recently he stands to lose 200k  I think you are right on with this statement.  While I disagree that he should have ever been suspended in the first place, I really never expected him to win in court. That first one was pretty lucky in my opinion. Unfortunately, the NFL judicial system is run like a business, not a court of law. Roger Goddell has complete power to punish individuals how he sees fit and can just lump it onto "image of the league" or "equality of the league." If inflating footballs was some kind of criminal offense, there is NO WAY Tom Brady would be found guilty, simply not enough evidence that isn't a little circumstantial. In some ways it relates to businesses like ESPN that fire their employees for public statements they make about political issues. Legally these individuals can make these statements, but a commercial establishment has the right to fire you because you have disrupted the image they want to embody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiehardSteeler Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think you are right on with this statement. Â While I disagree that he should have ever been suspended in the first place, I really never expected him to win in court. That first one was pretty lucky in my opinion. Unfortunately, the NFL judicial system is run like a business, not a court of law. Roger Goddell has complete power to punish individuals how he sees fit and can just lump it onto "image of the league" or "equality of the league." If inflating footballs was some kind of criminal offense, there is NO WAY Tom Brady would be found guilty, simply not enough evidence that isn't a little circumstantial. In some ways it relates to businesses like ESPN that fire their employees for public statements they make about political issues. Legally these individuals can make these statements, but a commercial establishment has the right to fire you because you have disrupted the image they want to embody. Pfft... If the players do not like the power that Goddell has, then perhaps they should not have agreed to giving it to him under the collective bargaining agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) suck it brady you doooshbag cheater Edited April 27, 2016 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Pfft... If the players do not like the power that Goddell has, then perhaps they should not have agreed to giving it to him under the collective bargaining agreement. Â Goodell hadn't been so tyrannical when the last collective bargaining agreement was made in 2011. And the players had much bigger things to worry about in 2011 since they were being asked to take a salary cut and were being locked out. My guess is that Goodell's unilateral power will be a big issue when the next collective bargaining agreement happens in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paygilsd Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 The money doesn't matter to Brady - his wife will out earn him no matter how he restructures his contracts and what endorsements he tales on. I'm no Brady fan at all, but this is not good news for any NFL players. Sets a real bad precedent when an investigation can be botched this bad and the whole ordeal handled this poorly, yet Goodell and the league still come out on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paygilsd Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 IMO, the real impact of this decision will be felt by the players and when the next CBA is negotiated after the 2020 season. The Pats will be fine for their 1st 4 games regardless - Belichick will find a way to at least split. And Brady's legacy isn't changing from 4 games - people made up their minds long ago on what they think of him concerning Deflategate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) The money doesn't matter to Brady - his wife will out earn him no matter how he restructures his contracts and what endorsements he tales on. I'm no Brady fan at all, but this is not good news for any NFL players. Sets a real bad precedent when an investigation can be botched this bad and the whole ordeal handled this poorly, yet Goodell and the league still come out on top. I honestly don't think Goodell doesn't make it much further as comish, he will be lucky to make it to the 2020 negotiations, but he won't make it much further Edited April 27, 2016 by jamesplante11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paygilsd Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I honestly don't think Goodell doesn't make it much further as comish, he will be lucky to make it to the 2020 negotiations, but he won't make it much further  I agree wholeheartedly - he could survive as the public and players turned against him. The beginning of the end was when he started to turn the owners against him. Whoever the commish is in 2020, I expect a huge point of contention to be some power removal/separation of duties. The PA overlooked it for $$$ last negotiation and now they're paying for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/04/26/drew-brees-on-roger-goodell-tom-brady-deflategate/ Â Interesting article with an opinion from Brees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Ha-Ha  :Nelson: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I honestly don't think Goodell doesn't make it much further as comish, he will be lucky to make it to the 2020 negotiations, but he won't make it much further As long as he continues to protect the war machine that puts billions into owners' pockets, they will not remove him. The only way that public opinion impact Goodell is if it gets so bad that people stop supporting the game and revenue drops and we all know that ain't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 As long as he continues to protect the war machine that puts billions into owners' pockets, they will not remove him. The only way that public opinion impact Goodell is if it gets so bad that people stop supporting the game and revenue drops and we all know that ain't happening. He did however just ask the local police up here in Maine to "guard" his summer house. They told him they are not wasting the resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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