flemingd Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Geez I hope he drives a nicer car than that. Maybe that is his "smoker" car. It was a loaner while his claim was being processed from the "incident" after meeting with Goodell and getting the original news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockdodgers Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Sign me up for Gordon. He always comes with a risk that he will repeat offend and we lose him again, possibly for good. However, his talent is not in question, although his QB's talent is shaky at best. Still think he's worth the risk at the right value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Sign me up for Gordon. He always comes with a risk that he will repeat offend and we lose him again, possibly for good. However, his talent is not in question, although his QB's talent is shaky at best. Still think he's worth the risk at the right value. Do you have a podcast though? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresJohnny Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 a year off...a mixed bag at QB and do you remember how he didn't play all that well after his last suspension?...I'm staying away unless he falls far. ah... the "Chris Harris take" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresJohnny Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I'll be buying in ....again. Much like how Josh Gordon can quit Josh Gordon, I can't quit Josh Gordon. I will take him way too early as my #4 WR, and then pray to the fantasy gods that he has a big second half of the year and propels me into the playoffs. But deep down, I know the pick will be wasted, Josh will get wasted and my season will be wasted. Josh Gordon is my Josh Gordon. God help me. The struggle is real, friend. I'm here for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockdodgers Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Do you have a podcast though? Had to 'like' this post my damn self hahaha! I wonder who's more likely to screw up first...Gordon or Bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Who is Chris Harris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockdodgers Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Who is Chris Harris? He's a fantasy football "expert". He worked for ESPN and now runs his own website/podcast. I guess he is saying that your thoughts there are along the line of Chris Harris's opinion on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIAball1996 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I agree with a previous poster who valued him in the 6th round. That's a perfect round for his value. However, I'll take him in the 5th because let's face it, other than qbs, every fifth round pick is rather risky and uncertain. So why not take that level of risk in exchange for a guy who, when lucid, is a 1st round producer? I'm not letting him get by me in the 5th. If he tanks, wasting a 5th on him is not going to hurt. If he pans out the way he can, that's a championship move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I agree with a previous poster who valued him in the 6th round. That's a perfect round for his value. However, I'll take him in the 5th because let's face it, other than qbs, every fifth round pick is rather risky and uncertain. So why not take that level of risk in exchange for a guy who, when lucid, is a 1st round producer? I'm not letting him get by me in the 5th. If he tanks, wasting a 5th on him is not going to hurt. If he pans out the way he can, that's a championship move.If he returns, stays out of trouble and is healthy, good luck getting him in the 5th Rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIAball1996 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 If he returns, stays out of trouble and is healthy, good luck getting him in the 5th Rd He's coming off a long layoff and is suspended the first 4. 6th round is a reasonable valuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iqfantasysports Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 At this point, we know Josh Gordon will be back after his 4 game suspension but the question should be whether he will return to elite performance. With some much uncertainty at the Browns QB position and Josh's middling performance during his last 5 games in 2014, buyer beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 He's coming off a long layoff and is suspended the first 4. 6th round is a reasonable valuation.Sure. "Reasonable" and where guys, especially big name guys, get drafted don't always go hand in hand. We'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 other than qbs, every fifth round pick is rather risky and uncertain. 5th round is a good round to take a tight end. Greg Olsen has a 5th round adp. Though there are so many good tight ends, I might wait until round 13 to take one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 5th round is a good round to take a tight end. Greg Olsen has a 5th round adp. Though there are so many good tight ends, I might wait until round 13 to take one. I wouldn't say there are "so many good tight ends". There are a lot of TEs that are about the same, though. I wouldn't let it slip past TE10-11 though. Then it kinda gets ugly. But honestly, difference between TE2-3 and TE8-10 is really not that big of a difference IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTomWeTrust Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 I wouldn't say there are "so many good tight ends". There are a lot of TEs that are about the same, though. I wouldn't let it slip past TE10-11 though. Then it kinda gets ugly. But honestly, difference between TE2-3 and TE8-10 is really not that big of a difference IMO. what about antonio gates and martellus bennett tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I wouldn't say there are "so many good tight ends". There are a lot of TEs that are about the same, though. I wouldn't let it slip past TE10-11 though. Then it kinda gets ugly. But honestly, difference between TE2-3 and TE8-10 is really not that big of a difference IMO. I like a lot of the tight ends outside the top 10. I'd be happy with Julius Thomas (11th), Antonio Gates (12th), Martellus Bennett (15th), or Jason Witten (17th). Jared Cook somehow has the 26th highest adp (184 adp overall). I'll even take a gamble on Jimmy Graham (18th) and see if he returns to form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 At this point, we know Josh Gordon will be back after his 4 game suspension but the question should be whether he will return to elite performance. With some much uncertainty at the Browns QB position and Josh's middling performance during his last 5 games in 2014, buyer beware. He is scheduled to return after 4 game suspension, but lets not pretend the chance is anywhere near zero that he doesn't get into trouble again and miss time. I think he does get it finally and will stay clean. Agree Browns have a questionable QB situation, and yes his performance when he returned in 2014 was horrible. But as I've pointed out before, equating that return in 2014 to his planned return in week 5 of 2016 are apples and oranges. In 2014 he expected to sit out all year, and was not with the team in camp at all. He bascially had his suspension lifted and returned to practice then played immediately. Another thing to consider keeper/dynasty leagues should value him more than a redraft. The chance to get somebody like him with a low pick and have him MAYBE become a long term stud for your team is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 what about antonio gates and martellus bennett tho What about them? I like a lot of the tight ends outside the top 10. I'd be happy with Julius Thomas (11th), Antonio Gates (12th), Martellus Bennett (15th), or Jason Witten (17th). Jared Cook somehow has the 26th highest adp (184 adp overall). I'll even take a gamble on Jimmy Graham (18th) and see if he returns to form. I have a feeling the Jaguar offense takes a small step back this year. Additionally, I think they run a little more. I would be nervous with Thomas as my TE1. Gates I like. Only thing that concerns me is age - obviously - and I think that they do bring Hunter Henry on towards the middle part of the season. Bennett is a hot commodity right now with the whole Patriot 2-TE set but let's not forget, Brady is out the first four games and Gronk will never be supplanted as the #1 TE there. As a flier late in the draft, sure.... but if you're rolling Bennett out as your every week starter, you're in trouble. IMO. Witten will again be steady, and I'm banking on him in a 16-team dynasty as my every week starter, but I'm absolutely loaded elsewhere. With depth to boot. So if that's the case, sure... Witten is OK. But in a redraft format where I may not be as stacked, I'd rather spend a higher pick and ensure myself of a top-10 TE. As for Cook, he's not even projected as the starter right now. The Packer offense will be back on track but there's just so much unknown when it comes to him there. As a late round flier, I'd rather have Bennett. Graham is intriguing though. The guy's obviously talented and the injury will scare folks off. If you can get him late, he's a nifty little flier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heehawks Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 What about them? I have a feeling the Jaguar offense takes a small step back this year. Additionally, I think they run a little more. I would be nervous with Thomas as my TE1. Gates I like. Only thing that concerns me is age - obviously - and I think that they do bring Hunter Henry on towards the middle part of the season. Bennett is a hot commodity right now with the whole Patriot 2-TE set but let's not forget, Brady is out the first four games and Gronk will never be supplanted as the #1 TE there. As a flier late in the draft, sure.... but if you're rolling Bennett out as your every week starter, you're in trouble. IMO. Witten will again be steady, and I'm banking on him in a 16-team dynasty as my every week starter, but I'm absolutely loaded elsewhere. With depth to boot. So if that's the case, sure... Witten is OK. But in a redraft format where I may not be as stacked, I'd rather spend a higher pick and ensure myself of a top-10 TE. As for Cook, he's not even projected as the starter right now. The Packer offense will be back on track but there's just so much unknown when it comes to him there. As a late round flier, I'd rather have Bennett. Graham is intriguing though. The guy's obviously talented and the injury will scare folks off. If you can get him late, he's a nifty little flier. I agree with just about everything you say here except for the Jags part. I think they stay steady eddie and repeat similar numbers. Otherwise, excellent and useful descriptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) I agree with just about everything you say here except for the Jags part. I think they stay steady eddie and repeat similar numbers. Otherwise, excellent and useful descriptions. Let me qualify my statement: they added a solid, between-the-tackles runner in Chris Ivory. They'll still employ Yeldon plenty but I see a 50/50 split... which suggests more proficient rushing stats. They were fifth-lowest in YPC in 2015 (3.7 ypc). Chris Ivory has been a 4+ ypc guy his entire career. The biggest thing, though, is a much-improved defense. Dante Fowler is supposedly tearing it up in camp. They will have a legit pass rush this year. Jags were second-to-last in scoring defense in 2015. They had to throw to keep up. Don't think that'll be the case this season. Edited August 8, 2016 by darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Nice shot at all the Josh Gordon truthers like myself. Gordon has been sitting on three of my dynasty teams for the last 2 + years eating up contract and roster space. Finally, all of the Josh Gordon owners shall be rewarded. Josh Gordon Owners Rejoice! Our time is NOW!!! I stand corrected. Forget everything I said. This guy is an idiot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I stand corrected. Forget everything I said. This guy is an idiot! Yeah. (the really bad word) that guy. Done with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTomWeTrust Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 what a total joke, i drafted him early in every league This is the biggest blow ive ever taken in fantasy football I had the highest aspirations for this kid hes a disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I learned my lesson with him the last 2 years and avoided in every league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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