ImNotSoIgnorant Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Zero catches his first game. Only two passes thrown to him. RGIII is out for a while. I don't see how RGIII being out increases his value. Its only one game to go on to say it does or does not. However the big zero worries me. I'm going to give him another start this weekend and see what happens. Anyone else's thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Barnidge should be fine with McCown back under center. At least that's what I'm hoping for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I believe his numbers were better than Gronk's last year when McCown was tossing the rock. He's a serious player now for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I don't know why he wasn't targeted more. I know his 2 were both drops so that might've had something to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTomWeTrust Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 what to think about fleener is more important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anismith Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 what to think about fleener is more important Why would you post this in a Barnidge thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 because he likes to be a troll...simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Barnidge should be fine with McCown back under center. At least that's what I'm hoping for. This. Wasn't sure what to think with RG3 under center. At minimum, Barnidge was a "one year wonder" candidate. With McCown at the helm at least there's a glimmer of hope. because he likes to be a troll...simple as that. I've given up responding. Everyone should follow suit. Seriously, even with traffic down considerably there are plenty of people with well-reasoned opinions that you can keep discussions going with. There's just no reason to even waste your time here. I gave up weeks ago and plan on keeping on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 This. Wasn't sure what to think with RG3 under center. At minimum, Barnidge was a "one year wonder" candidate. With McCown at the helm at least there's a glimmer of hope. I've given up responding. Everyone should follow suit. Seriously, even with traffic down considerably there are plenty of people with well-reasoned opinions that you can keep discussions going with. There's just no reason to even waste your time here. I gave up weeks ago and plan on keeping on that. This. Wasn't sure what to think with RG3 under center. At minimum, Barnidge was a "one year wonder" candidate. With McCown at the helm at least there's a glimmer of hope. I've given up responding. Everyone should follow suit. Seriously, even with traffic down considerably there are plenty of people with well-reasoned opinions that you can keep discussions going with. There's just no reason to even waste your time here. I gave up weeks ago and plan on keeping on that. i dont own any browns...but theres a glimmer of hope for barnidge, coleman and gordon now for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Why would you post this in a Barnidge thread? Why are you not ignoring him? Why are you quoting his posts so that those who ignore him still see his stupidity? As for Barnidge, like Loaf said he dropped both balls thrown to him, not sure why he wasn't targeted more but if you own him I'd worry more about him dropping balls than who is throwing to him how often. Guy is not and never was a stud TE. Just the benefactor of a bad offense that would have some occassional success with one player while trying to come back from 2-3 TD deficits. I don't think that changes with McCown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Stevegrab - did u watch Barnidge play last year? He caught everything in sight and looked like a very good TE to my eyes. Why it took him until age 30 to breakout, I'm not sure. I wouldn't be too worried about his drops. He'll be elite status soon with McCown back under center. Maybe RG3 throws a weird ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I watched the Browns last year, not all of every game (I've been suffering far too long), he looked good but not nearly as elite as people are treating him. I'm not worried, he isn't on my fantasy team and what he can do probably doesn't matter for the Browns long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnLefty Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Reason for optomism via Mat Harrison on Twitter: In Josh McCowns 8 starts last season Gary Barnidge recorded 46-641-6. With all other QBs in 8 games he tallied 33-402-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I didn't watch Barnidge much last year, but I have trouble believing a tight end can become studly at 30. Every team is going to pass the ball 3,000 yards and throw 20 touchdowns regardless of talent. Sometimes a good player puts up elite numbers because of situation. Barnidge might be a player who should get 50-60 catches and 5-6 touchdowns and got lucky and had a career year. I don't see him repeating those numbers with Gordon, Coleman, and Pryor in the lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I do see him leading the league in neck length, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I do see him leading the league in neck length, though He's no Merton Hanks. https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/150281613-e1460382270248.jpg?w=233 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 He's no Merton Hanks. https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/150281613-e1460382270248.jpg?w=233 Barnidge should learn the Chicken Dance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotSoIgnorant Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Why does Mccown mean Barnidge will perform better, at least fantasy wise? As in RGIII is that bad or RGIII doesn't throw to TEs much? Or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoDay Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Because they have chemistry from last year. RG3 is known for his ability to scramble, make 1 or 2 reads and usually focus on deep passes. McCown isn't stellar at anything specifically but can work through his progressions which usually is where the tight ends come in to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I drafted Barnidge in a few leagues because he was an incredible value. I didn't have him ranked as high this year due to his uncertain situation with RG3 plus the fact that last year was a career year at age 30. I drafted him on value and upside and I'm much more optimistic now that he has his QB back from last year. Gordon is out 3 more weeks and hasn't played in over a year. Coleman is a rookie who still has a lot to learn. With McCown, I'd immediately bump Barnidge back to top 5 status. I can't see one argument against it. Guys drop passes. I'm not worried about 2 dropped passes from a QB he has no chemistry with and who is now out of the picture for at least 8 weeks. Barnidge now tier 2 TE with Reed, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Has there been an NFL receiver or tight end that blossomed at 30 years old and continued in subsequent years at an elite level? I can't think of any. I'm curious if there is a precedent for Barnidge having another elite season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Has there been an NFL receiver or tight end that blossomed at 30 years old and continued in subsequent years at an elite level? I can't think of any. I'm curious if there is a precedent for Barnidge having another elite season. None that I can think of either. There's a first for everything. McCown clearly had a thing for Barnidge and with him back starting, I don't see how Barnidge doesn't continue to be his top guy, especially with 2 new WRs (Coleman, Gordon) where chemistry will need to be nurtured. Edited September 13, 2016 by Brentastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I drafted Barnidge in one league and think he can be very productive again....but I also think last year could have been a flash in the pan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdmanJones Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I've got Barnidge (and Funchess) on the drop list with the same concern... With #1 on my waiver wire ranking this week, I'm torn about who (if either) goes in favor of a Davante Adams, Tyrell Williams, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I wouldn't wig out after Week 1 and micromanage yourself out of a serviceable TE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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