ThatDude Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If McCown is under center I expect Barnidge to get back to last years stats. I'm holding him for a couple more weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdmanJones Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 True-not looking to win the "overcoach" award. We run combined WR/TE position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Reason for optomism via Mat Harrison on Twitter: In Josh McCowns 8 starts last season Gary Barnidge recorded 46-641-6. With all other QBs in 8 games he tallied 33-402-2. per game stats with McCown 6-80-0.75 with others 4-50-.25 While that is significant it is not the difference between stud and dud. The biggest difference is TDs. McCown was arguably better than the Browns other QBs last year. Not sure I saw enough of RG3 in this system with these players to say the same about McCown being much better than him. He was simply the beneficiary last year of few other weapons on the Browns. McCown may target him more than RG3 would. If people want to bump Barnidge to top 5 or 10 TE status that is on them, I'd caution against that once more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Dropped Barnidge for Jesse James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I wouldn't wig out after Week 1 and micromanage yourself out of a serviceable TE Some dolt on XM Radio - forget which channel/show - said that after Week 1 is the most important waiver wire week. So untrue. You will just add the likes of Kevin Ogletrees who'll do nothing the rest of the season. The right move, at least in my opinion, is to wait until after Week 3. If a guy comes out and has a huge Week 1, I want to watch him perform in Week 2. If he looks outstanding again, I may bite. But more than likely I'm waiting until after Week 3. If I whiff on getting him, I have to take solace in knowing that this is when a lot of impatient owners start dropping potential studs. I always put backup bids in on guys that owners are making mistakes on dropping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 per game stats with McCown 6-80-0.75 with others 4-50-.25 While that is significant it is not the difference between stud and dud. The biggest difference is TDs. McCown was arguably better than the Browns other QBs last year. Not sure I saw enough of RG3 in this system with these players to say the same about McCown being much better than him. He was simply the beneficiary last year of few other weapons on the Browns. McCown may target him more than RG3 would. If people want to bump Barnidge to top 5 or 10 TE status that is on them, I'd caution against that once more. Wut. That's an 8 PPG difference. DIFFERENCE. Yes, that's stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Some dolt on XM Radio - forget which channel/show - said that after Week 1 is the most important waiver wire week. So untrue. You will just add the likes of Kevin Ogletrees who'll do nothing the rest of the season. The right move, at least in my opinion, is to wait until after Week 3. If a guy comes out and has a huge Week 1, I want to watch him perform in Week 2. If he looks outstanding again, I may bite. But more than likely I'm waiting until after Week 3. If I whiff on getting him, I have to take solace in knowing that this is when a lot of impatient owners start dropping potential studs. I always put backup bids in on guys that owners are making mistakes on dropping. Players who blossom in a season will often emerge in week one. The team knows they are playing well in the preseason and will feature them week one. Defenses will often be caught unawares. Also, if a player plays well in the first 3 weeks, he isn't going to be available after week 3. I think you need to pounce on the receivers that get 6+ catches in week one and hope for the best. It is true that most will not pan out. And I wouldn't break the bank on a week one wonder if you use bidding for free agents. Edited September 14, 2016 by michaelredd9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 and on cue, some dolt dropped Barnidge...got my waiver claim in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTomWeTrust Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 dropped him for ebron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Week 1 has more flash in the pans than breakout studs, imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Wut. That's an 8 PPG difference. DIFFERENCE. Yes, that's stud. The point PPG difference depends on your league scoring. I play in one league, no PPR, rush/recv yards 1pt/10. So those stat lines become with McCown 6-80-0.75 = 8PPG, + 3TDs every 4 - 12.5 with others 4-50-.25 = 5PPG + 1 TD every 4 = 6.5 So 6 points a game for my league, a bit more than I thought at first glance. I simply don't think Barnidge is going to reproduce any stats similar to last year, no matter who the QB is. Its a gut feeling, in large part based on his coming out of nowhere to have one great year on a crappy team that had few other weapons on offense. Combined with more weapons on offense (Coleman, Gordon, Pryor) that will eat into his targets. And an overall feeling that this team will be really bad, not even the offense that had retooling and new weapons will be very good. You guys want to treat him like a stud now because RG3 is out, go for it but don't say you haven't been warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacredgrooves Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Guy that had him our league hit the panic button and dropped him. Scooped him up to see what happens with McCown at the helm. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Everyone has their predictions for Barnidge but to drop him outright is insane unless TE is not a mandatory position and/or your league has very limited bench space and you already have a reliable TE1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotSoIgnorant Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Do we give Barnidge one more week? This is what I'm thinking, but if he fails again I'll probably be looking elsewhere. What nags at me in regards to this is he might do better once Gordon comes back. Any Browns fans know if he's not getting open, primarily used to block, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Seemed to not be involved much, but the offense really blew/sucked after the first few drives. Checking his stats I see 4 receptions on 5 targets for 37 yards. Not great for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 If I were the Browns, I'd use everybody to block. Even the waterboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatDude Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I'm dumping him. Thought he would come back to life with McCown but that didn't happen and now he's out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseAmbassadorToJapan Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Cody Kessler came in at QB in week 3 and Barnidge suddenly reappears and puts 13.6 points on the board. Is this a one-off, or is he likely to see a few receptions again this week if Kessler is at the helm again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 How do we know? But I am starting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotSoIgnorant Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 I dropped him. Do not feel confident he'll be consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseAmbassadorToJapan Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 How do we know? But I am starting him I'm leaning towards starting him too. It's a gamble, but I think there's a chance that Kessler will stick with what worked for him last week, so I'll probably roll the dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 from an article on Cleveland.com After Week 1, you had to wonder when – and if – Gary Barnidge would emerge. Jackson's stops in Oakland and Cincinnati featured offenses with dynamic tight ends who were among team leaders in receptions and yards. Barnidge had just two targets and 0 catches against the Eagles. But he has had 11 targets for nine catches (103 yards), plus a two-point conversion catch, the last two weeks. While Barnidge has often been a safety valve, he has also been a target on quarterback rollouts, allowing him to catch on the move for big gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I think the offense will continue to improve, and Barnidge will get more looks, and once Gordon and Coleman return they'll demand more attention. The constant change in the offense the first 3 weeks (3 diff QBs, changes on OL, loss of Coleman) hasn't helped so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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