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Ethical Dilemma


badluckmatt
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Hi so this is a question I have on something I did as commissioner and I want to know if you guys think this is okay or if I should undo it.

 

I offered a trade to someone (Amari Cooper and Ryan Matthews for Ezekiel Elliot and Chris Johnson). I notified the league to let them know they could veto it. After about 2 hours I decided I wanted to keep Cooper since he is on my favorite team and I just vetoed the trade even though no one else did.

 

I want to know if I should have to reoffer the trade back. Another option which I would prefer if you guys think I should offer it back is that I would like to include Brandin Cooks in the trade instead of Amari Cooper even though he is ranked higher just because I like Cooper since I am a Raiders Fan. Let me know what you think. Thanks

 

 

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Yes technically I am the only person who vetoed it. Idk if this matters either but just to add more facts to it, it is my group of friends that I have known since high school and they all like to see me lose. Everyone I asked thought it was lopsided but they won't veto it because it is me. I don't really think it is lopsided I just want to keep Cooper because he is my favorite player and I honestly don't know why I accepted the trade in the first place.

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I don't see why you can't rescind the offer. All managers have the option to cancel their offer up until the deadline or it's accepted, right?

I think it was already accepted and then he vetoed the trade himself is what he's saying.

 

If you really like Cooper more, why not just trade Cooks for Cooper? The other guy might do this.

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If the other guy already accepted your offer, then you have to continue the normal process of allowing the league to vote and then let the trade go through.

Sucks that you offered up a guy that you wanted to keep, and it will look a little fishy if you try to trade him back to your team, so you might be without Cooper for the year.

On the upside, if you have Cooks ranked higher, then things are still good.

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If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade.

 

I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade.

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If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade.

 

I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade.

No, he offered the trade, not the other way around

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Too bad so sad. You're stick with the players you traded for. If this was 2 other teams doing the exact same thing, I doubt you would use your commissioner veto power to overturn the trade because a couple hours later one guy decided that he wishes he didn't accept it.

 

Or better yet, if this was the other way around, and the guy you traded with asked you to veto it, I definitely doubt you would.

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Pressing "Accept" is an intent to be bound to the contract. Regardless of whether or not the players have switched rosters, if the OP sent the offer and Owner 2 pressed accept, and as long as the majority of the league didn't veto, the trade should go through. It shouldn't matter if the OP is the only one to veto, because that wouldn't constitute a majority so the trade should process anyway.

 

If the OP wants to, he can offer Cooks for Cooper straight up afterwards. FYI drafting your favorite team's players is a terrible strategy, unless your team is the Steelers.

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I don't see why you can't rescind the offer. All managers have the option to cancel their offer up until the deadline or it's accepted, right?

This. Feels like the OP just rescinded the trade offer in a very goofy way.

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If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade.

 

I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade.

 

If that is what happened then he should say that. Giving us ALL of the information CLEARLY is important. I'm at the point where I mostly read these as entertainment and only care to offer some opinion if it is very clearly explained.

 

He says "I offered a trade to somebody" not "I accpeted a trade" or "I offered a trade that was accepted".

 

if the offer was made and not accepted, perfectly ok to retract the offer.

 

If the offer was made and accepted, he put it up for veto then used his commish powers to reject (not approve) the pending accepted trade :tdown::tdown:

 

Also almost any time you have to ask "so was this shady, I'm just wondering..." the answer is usually yes.

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If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade.

 

I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade.

That's what it sounded like to me as well. Yeah, that's unethical. :tdown:

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In post # 3 he states "I honestly don't know why I accepted the trade in the first place."

 

That's where the confusion comes in.

That just sounds like buyers remorse to me. That's no excuse for handling it the way he did.

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I wish my league had your desire to abide by proper ethics...a guy agreed to a trade with me where I gave him Lamar Miller, Allen Hurns, and Ameer Abdullah for OBJ, Carlos Hyde, and Duke Johnson the afternoon before Abdullah was put on IR. The news about him seeing the foot specialist had already been published and I think he just didn't do his research. Trade was confirmed, wouldn't go through for two days. Next day he sees Abdullah going on IR, gets pissed, and convinces all his buddies in the league (he's better friends with everyone than I am) to vote to veto the trade. Only needs 4 veto votes out of 10 to get it vetoed, trade doesn't go through. Needless to say I'm ditching this POS league the second the season ends.

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I wish my league had your desire to abide by proper ethics...a guy agreed to a trade with me where I gave him Lamar Miller, Allen Hurns, and Ameer Abdullah for OBJ, Carlos Hyde, and Duke Johnson the afternoon before Abdullah was put on IR. The news about him seeing the foot specialist had already been published and I think he just didn't do his research. Trade was confirmed, wouldn't go through for two days. Next day he sees Abdullah going on IR, gets pissed, and convinces all his buddies in the league (he's better friends with everyone than I am) to vote to veto the trade. Only needs 4 veto votes out of 10 to get it vetoed, trade doesn't go through. Needless to say I'm ditching this POS league the second the season ends.

 

That's (the really bad word)ing dumb, and another reason why I hate league vetos.

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