badluckmatt Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Hi so this is a question I have on something I did as commissioner and I want to know if you guys think this is okay or if I should undo it. I offered a trade to someone (Amari Cooper and Ryan Matthews for Ezekiel Elliot and Chris Johnson). I notified the league to let them know they could veto it. After about 2 hours I decided I wanted to keep Cooper since he is on my favorite team and I just vetoed the trade even though no one else did. I want to know if I should have to reoffer the trade back. Another option which I would prefer if you guys think I should offer it back is that I would like to include Brandin Cooks in the trade instead of Amari Cooper even though he is ranked higher just because I like Cooper since I am a Raiders Fan. Let me know what you think. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegos Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 So the trade is cancelled with only one veto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badluckmatt Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Yes technically I am the only person who vetoed it. Idk if this matters either but just to add more facts to it, it is my group of friends that I have known since high school and they all like to see me lose. Everyone I asked thought it was lopsided but they won't veto it because it is me. I don't really think it is lopsided I just want to keep Cooper because he is my favorite player and I honestly don't know why I accepted the trade in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I don't see why you can't rescind the offer. All managers have the option to cancel their offer up until the deadline or it's accepted, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I don't see why you can't rescind the offer. All managers have the option to cancel their offer up until the deadline or it's accepted, right? This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anismith Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I don't see why you can't rescind the offer. All managers have the option to cancel their offer up until the deadline or it's accepted, right? I think it was already accepted and then he vetoed the trade himself is what he's saying. If you really like Cooper more, why not just trade Cooks for Cooper? The other guy might do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 no issue. You simple rescinded has others have said. Now if you would have completed the trade then wanted to rescind....that is a definite problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faceplant Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If the other guy already accepted your offer, then you have to continue the normal process of allowing the league to vote and then let the trade go through. Sucks that you offered up a guy that you wanted to keep, and it will look a little fishy if you try to trade him back to your team, so you might be without Cooper for the year. On the upside, if you have Cooks ranked higher, then things are still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If the offer was accepted, you can't veto it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade. I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade. I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade. No, he offered the trade, not the other way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcheese Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Too bad so sad. You're stick with the players you traded for. If this was 2 other teams doing the exact same thing, I doubt you would use your commissioner veto power to overturn the trade because a couple hours later one guy decided that he wishes he didn't accept it. Or better yet, if this was the other way around, and the guy you traded with asked you to veto it, I definitely doubt you would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoDay Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Pressing "Accept" is an intent to be bound to the contract. Regardless of whether or not the players have switched rosters, if the OP sent the offer and Owner 2 pressed accept, and as long as the majority of the league didn't veto, the trade should go through. It shouldn't matter if the OP is the only one to veto, because that wouldn't constitute a majority so the trade should process anyway. If the OP wants to, he can offer Cooks for Cooper straight up afterwards. FYI drafting your favorite team's players is a terrible strategy, unless your team is the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ugghhh...I hate when noobs start a thread that needs further clarification and then disappear. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojanmojo Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I don't see why you can't rescind the offer. All managers have the option to cancel their offer up until the deadline or it's accepted, right? This. Feels like the OP just rescinded the trade offer in a very goofy way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade. I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade. If that is what happened then he should say that. Giving us ALL of the information CLEARLY is important. I'm at the point where I mostly read these as entertainment and only care to offer some opinion if it is very clearly explained. He says "I offered a trade to somebody" not "I accpeted a trade" or "I offered a trade that was accepted". if the offer was made and not accepted, perfectly ok to retract the offer. If the offer was made and accepted, he put it up for veto then used his commish powers to reject (not approve) the pending accepted trade Also almost any time you have to ask "so was this shady, I'm just wondering..." the answer is usually yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 In post # 3 he states "I honestly don't know why I accepted the trade in the first place." That's where the confusion comes in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 If I am understanding him correctly, he was offered the trade, he accepted it, and then used his commissioner power to veto the trade because he decided he wanted Cooper AFTER he had already accepted the trade. I wouldn't be happy with this if I was the team that offered him the trade. That's what it sounded like to me as well. Yeah, that's unethical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) In post # 3 he states "I honestly don't know why I accepted the trade in the first place." That's where the confusion comes in. That just sounds like buyers remorse to me. That's no excuse for handling it the way he did. Edited September 22, 2016 by rajncajn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 That just sounds like buyers remorse to me. That's no excuse for handling it the way he did. Yep using your commish powers to overturn your stupidity is about as unethecial as it gets. Or does he veto other trades if the owner asks for a do over? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 he's contradicting himself. He can't offer and accept a trade. Done here until he clarifies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badluckmatt Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Okay you guys are right I will redo the trade offer. I just wanted to see because it was only a few hours later without more information present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdub1988 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I wish my league had your desire to abide by proper ethics...a guy agreed to a trade with me where I gave him Lamar Miller, Allen Hurns, and Ameer Abdullah for OBJ, Carlos Hyde, and Duke Johnson the afternoon before Abdullah was put on IR. The news about him seeing the foot specialist had already been published and I think he just didn't do his research. Trade was confirmed, wouldn't go through for two days. Next day he sees Abdullah going on IR, gets pissed, and convinces all his buddies in the league (he's better friends with everyone than I am) to vote to veto the trade. Only needs 4 veto votes out of 10 to get it vetoed, trade doesn't go through. Needless to say I'm ditching this POS league the second the season ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I wish my league had your desire to abide by proper ethics...a guy agreed to a trade with me where I gave him Lamar Miller, Allen Hurns, and Ameer Abdullah for OBJ, Carlos Hyde, and Duke Johnson the afternoon before Abdullah was put on IR. The news about him seeing the foot specialist had already been published and I think he just didn't do his research. Trade was confirmed, wouldn't go through for two days. Next day he sees Abdullah going on IR, gets pissed, and convinces all his buddies in the league (he's better friends with everyone than I am) to vote to veto the trade. Only needs 4 veto votes out of 10 to get it vetoed, trade doesn't go through. Needless to say I'm ditching this POS league the second the season ends. That's (the really bad word)ing dumb, and another reason why I hate league vetos. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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