Scorcher Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) I think next year I will be passing on him unless he falls to a low round.. He cost me more games than he helped. He's a talented receiver and has an emerging QB, but there is just not enough consistency to warrant a high draft pick. Edited December 13, 2016 by Scorcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Agreed, and along the same lines i'll stay away from other WR's in a volatile situation: Nuk Hopkins, Allen Robinson, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahl63 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 +1. I love the talent but overpaid this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the outlaw Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Agreed, and along the same lines i'll stay away from other WR's in a volatile situation: Nuk Hopkins, Allen Robinson, etc. Yeah, of those guys Coop is the biggest head-scratcher, IMO, merely because of Carr...the other 2 at least make some sense to me...Hopkins = no QB; Robinson = Bortles (and entire team!) regression, etc...I think I'll steer clear of all those guys next year, too, unless they fall at least to rounds 5 - 7 (which they won't, b/c someone will take an earlier flier based on 2015 performance... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I've not started him more than I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsul Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Crabtree with similar production but 3-4 rounds lower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medalofhonor Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 And Seth Roberts has really stepped up recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdko Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 And Seth Roberts has really stepped up recently. Â Obviously Carr played like crap, but 2 for 12 on 9 targets..? And 2 for 18 the week before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Cooper just isn't a red zone option either - overpaid for him but I have a great feeling about him this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smales Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Cooper just isn't a red zone option either - overpaid for him but I have a great feeling about him this weekend. This! Im also hoping he is due for a good game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeductiveNun Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I should have drafted Alice Cooper. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Never, ever ever ever ever ever ever again. Never ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I should have drafted Alice Cooper. That would be a different nightmare but your welcome to it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I could say the same for Gronk or even Doug Martin who I got in just about every redraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I should have drafted Alice Cooper. You and Me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Awesome, I hope his stock sinks wayyyy low. Perfect guy to grab as your 2nd (or heck, even 3rd if he continues to slide) WR. The OAK offense continues to develop. Cooper will have stinkers but heck, even Julio has those. Â I do like Crabtree too, but sounds like people will be hip on him and probably overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 27th out of RB/WR/TE in standard scoring so not too disappointing for me as I took him with pick #26. Can't get too mad when I took Brandon Marshall three picks earlier. Â Sort of player who would be better in fantasy on a team with less options because he'd get forced more targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 27th out of RB/WR/TE in standard scoring so not too disappointing for me as I took him with pick #26. Can't get too mad when I took Brandon Marshall three picks earlier. Â Sort of player who would be better in fantasy on a team with less options because he'd get forced more targets. Â That's a good point. Carr is going to be one hell of a QB, if he's not already. He already knows how to exploit matchups, going with Crabtree when he's feelin' it and/or up against a lesser CB. Cooper does his job and serves as a decoy, running crisp routes and forcing safety shade. Â If the Raiders can get a legit TE (sorry, not buying Clive Walford), this offense will be SCARY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 27th out of RB/WR/TE in standard scoring so not too disappointing for me as I took him with pick #26. Can't get too mad when I took Brandon Marshall three picks earlier. Â Sort of player who would be better in fantasy on a team with less options because he'd get forced more targets. Â This: as I stated in my OP, he's way talented and has a QB on the rise, but the things you mention affect him fantasy wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 I think you need to treat the Raiders' receivers like you treat the Saints' receivers. Carr doesn't force to anyone but runs through his progressions like a pro. I would imagine Crabtree will be overvalued next year because of how much his TD scoring this year inflates his value. Likewise, Cooper ought to drop to more of a mid range WR2 value available in maybe the mid 4th in a 12 team league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smales Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 I got Cooper in the 3rd round as my WR2 behind AJ. When AJ was healthy this was working out fine, since AJ has been out it hasn't been pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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