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The Annual Bloodletting of the Coaches


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Soon to be ex-head coaches  

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  1. 1. Who will be gone within the month?

    • SF Chip Kelly 2-13 (but first year)
      10
    • ARZ Bruce Arians 6-8-1 big disappointment with team that seems suddenly in decline
      3
    • CHI John Fox 3-12 (but second year)
      7
    • MIN Mike Zimmer 7-8 likely a very new team in 2017 maybe even an offense
      3
    • SD Mike McCoy 5-10 tough division but in his fourth year
      24
    • IND Chuck Pagano 7-8 5th year and a losing record. Again.
      22
    • CLE Hue Jackson 1-14 first year but come on...
      2
    • CIN Marvin Lewis 14th year is a loooooooong time.
      12
    • NYJ Todd Bowles 4-11 Second year heads in wrong direction
      12


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it is about to happen as it does every year. We already saw the Jaguars and Rams dump their head coaches. At least four to six more usually follow every year. Anyone you want to see gone? Anyone that has to go?

 

It has such a big bearing on teams that it cannot be undervalued. Last year there were 15 new offensive coordinators. Probably a bad sign when the head coach is going from office to office asking if anyone has any empty boxes he can use.

 

Did I miss anyone?

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It's a year or two too early - and with the health problems I hate to say it - but Gary Kubiak. Someone should start the clock on this one.

 

Do not EVEN start talking about Super Bowl when he was a caretaker coach with someone else's team. Let's just say I may have seen this movie before....Chuckie.....

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It's a year or two too early - and with the health problems I hate to say it - but Gary Kubiak. Someone should start the clock on this one.

 

Do not EVEN start talking about Super Bowl when he was a caretaker coach with someone else's team. Let's just say I may have seen this movie before....Chuckie.....

I agree. And everyone I discuss Kubiak with wants to bring up the super bowl. The reality is he took over a very good team that John Elway and John Fox built and damn near ran it into the ground.

 

Its easy to forget because of the SB50 win, but Denver was seconds away from being eliminated from playoff contention last year against Cincy until McCarron fumbled a snap. The defense made enough plays to keep it going somehow through the playoffs. But realistically, last year's Denver team probably should have been a 6-8 win team based on how aweful the offense was. People (myself included) put it all on Manning then, but it's obvious now that he wasn't the only problem.

 

It was cool to see the reunion, but it may have been a mistake.

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it is about to happen as it does every year. We already saw the Jaguars and Rams dump their head coaches. At least four to six more usually follow every year. Anyone you want to see gone? Anyone that has to go?

 

It has such a big bearing on teams that it cannot be undervalued. Last year there were 15 new offensive coordinators. Probably a bad sign when the head coach is going from office to office asking if anyone has any empty boxes he can use.

 

Did I miss anyone?

good call on Marvin Lewis. Time for a change there imo
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I voted for those I think should/will be fired, McCoy, Chip and Rex.

 

Anybody who thinks Hue Jackson should be fired, or that it would be a good decision by the Browns is clueless. And I would have said the same thing if they went 0-16.

 

And Belichick? Come On Man... Maybe if they win another SB and he's ready to walk away, but highly doubtful.

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Kelly, McCoy and Pagano.

 

I will never understand why guys get fired after 1 or 2 seasons, unless they have shown they just aren't NFL coaches (Chip Kelly). My bet would be Rex, Bowles and John, Mr. Inept, Fox stay.

 

Lewis and Zimmer remind me of Andy Reid. Good enough to keep a job, but never great enough to win anything. As long as they are selling tickets.....

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I went Pagano, McCoy, Ryan, and Fox. Pagano and McCoy have already been discussed, and we all know Ryan's woes and lacking abilities.

 

Fox probably won't go, but the offense regressed this year and there is a lot of talk of Fangio leaving one way or another after the season. Rumors of friction between him and Fox over the defense scheme (3-4 vs 4-3). Fox was suppose to bring respectability back to the franchise after the travesty of Trestman, but instead does appear to have lost the team as well as both very highly regarded assistants in Fangio and Gase (last year). The fans have tuned out and going to be hard to garner any enthusiasm next season without some type of change from Fox's boring style of football, especially with the presence of the World Series Champion Cubs around.

 

I think it could happen that the GM Pace fires Fox. It would also help cover up his own folly of not drafting a QB in the later rounds these last two years when they knew the position needed addressing in some way. I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Fox and promoted Fangio as the D is showing real progression.

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Ryan is gone. McCoy is a no-brainer. Pagano is pretty close to that, but we've seen the Colts do odd things before, so who knows.

 

I also voted for Bowles and Lewis, but was a bit more on the fence about them. Lewis has had a better-than-average run, in terms of his teams during the regular season. In the playoffs more often than not. But, at some point, the lack of playoff wins will probably catch up to him. Bowles might deserve another year, but he clearly lost that team at times this year. They looked pretty good at times, and absolutely horrible at others. When they were bad, he looked lost.

 

I doubt Fox gets fired.... Chicago actually might have overachieved this year.

 

Kelly and Stu both deserve at least another year, mainly because they've only had one season. If I had to pick between the two, though, Kelly should be gone WAY before Stu.

 

I'm biased, but I think Zimmer will turn things back around in MIN.

 

Arians is a dumbass, but I think he stays. But, I wouldn't be shocked if he goes, either.

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I voted for those I think should/will be fired, McCoy, Chip and Rex.

 

Anybody who thinks Hue Jackson should be fired, or that it would be a good decision by the Browns is clueless. And I would have said the same thing if they went 0-16.

 

And Belichick? Come On Man... Maybe if they win another SB and he's ready to walk away, but highly doubtful.

Chip? After one season?
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I would. Everyone knows what he is. But I'm sure some people would look at the couple good years he had in Philly and give him more time

 

I agree. But, at the same time, everybody knew what he was when the Niners hired him. Clearly, they thought something different than the general consensus. With that in mind, I'd say they owe him another year.

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I agree. But, at the same time, everybody knew what he was when the Niners hired him. Clearly, they thought something different than the general consensus. With that in mind, I'd say they owe him another year.

 

IMO he already had one too many. Either way, he'll be fired in 2017 at some point

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Fox probably won't go, but the offense regressed this year and there is a lot of talk of Fangio leaving one way or another after the season. Rumors of friction between him and Fox over the defense scheme (3-4 vs 4-3). Fox was suppose to bring respectability back to the franchise after the travesty of Trestman, but instead does appear to have lost the team as well as both very highly regarded assistants in Fangio and Gase (last year). The fans have tuned out and going to be hard to garner any enthusiasm next season without some type of change from Fox's boring style of football, especially with the presence of the World Series Champion Cubs around.

 

I think it could happen that the GM Pace fires Fox. It would also help cover up his own folly of not drafting a QB in the later rounds these last two years when they knew the position needed addressing in some way. I wouldn't be surprised if they got rid of Fox and promoted Fangio as the D is showing real progression.

 

Most of that might be true. Just speaking from an outsider's perspective, I've actually been impressed with how they've competed lately. Their record might not be any better than expected (I think most people assumed that they would win 4-5 games), but it seems like they've improved as the season has gone on. Started the season with 3 bad losses, but since then, they've been in nearly every game. Beat Detroit, beat MIN, and almost beat GB. Been within a score of beating NYG and TEN, and destroyed SF in a game that most thought SF would win easily.

 

Offensive regression? They're playing with nobodies at QB, WR, and since Miller has been out, TE as well.

 

How much any of that has to do with Fox's ability to coach or rally a team, I have no idea. All I'm saying is that, from the outside, it seems like the Bears have done pretty well (at least more often than not), given the circumstances.

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Most of that might be true. Just speaking from an outsider's perspective, I've actually been impressed with how they've competed lately. Their record might not be any better than expected (I think most people assumed that they would win 4-5 games), but it seems like they've improved as the season has gone on. Started the season with 3 bad losses, but since then, they've been in nearly every game. Beat Detroit, beat MIN, and almost beat GB. Been within a score of beating NYG and TEN, and destroyed SF in a game that most thought SF would win easily.

 

Offensive regression? They're playing with nobodies at QB, WR, and since Miller has been out, TE as well.

 

How much any of that has to do with Fox's ability to coach or rally a team, I have no idea. All I'm saying is that, from the outside, it seems like the Bears have done pretty well (at least more often than not), given the circumstances.

 

Yep it does seem like they've had some spunk lately, but have to wonder how much of that is players auditioning for playing time next year. Also looking at both weeks 14 and 15 its hard to not wonder if those were garbage time games so to speak. There is definitely a reason this team ranks near bottom for total points and points per game, and is bottom half of total yards.

 

Again, he probably stays cause we all know the bears tend to be both conservative and cheap, just saying there's a chance now that the nucleus of assistant coaches will be gone and you are seeing the negative affect on the fans in the stands.

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Yep it does seem like they've had some spunk lately, but have to wonder how much of that is players auditioning for playing time next year. Also looking at both weeks 14 and 15 its hard to not wonder if those were garbage time games so to speak. There is definitely a reason this team ranks near bottom for total points and points per game, and is bottom half of total yards.

 

Again, he probably stays cause we all know the bears tend to be both conservative and cheap, just saying there's a chance now that the nucleus of assistant coaches will be gone and you are seeing the negative affect on the fans in the stands.

Fair enough. Makes sense.

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My coaches who need to go is a short list.

 

Bowles

Pagano

 

On the fence:

McCoy

Rex

 

I don't think the Chargers helped themselves much as players this year choking away several wins and in not sure that all should go on McCoy. I'd personally give him another year. Rex I don't think is all that bad and who will Buffalo get who is better? It's not like they don't have Tyrod Taylor as their franchise QB.

 

The Jets are a trainwreck under Bowles and it's clear his players are giving up on him. Pagano has to go also.

 

I also think the Colts GM has to go along with the Rams and 49ers GMs.

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The Jets' beat reporter Manish Meathead Mehta reports that Woody Johnson has decided to keep Bowles around for 2017. You see on the Jets, the HC does not report to the GM. The HC and the GM each reports to the meddlesome owner. He is an idiot and I'm not exaggerating.

 

I expect another 2 or 3 win season out of the Jets. Bowles is probably the worst HC in the NFL. Totally in over his head, has lost all control of the clubhouse, makes stupid decisions one after another unlike any HC I've seen in my 57 years. And he's stubborn to boot.

 

What a colossal blunder by the Jets owner. It's bad enough that this brainless owner will represent the United States in England for one Donald Trump (another colossal mistake), but to keep Bowles, the imbecile, around another season is just too much. Woody Johnson has never worked a day in his life at a meaningful job and has no clue at all how to manage anything, let alone a business or an NFL football team.

 

Sorry Jets fans, but another year of Bowles is upon you.

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