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Simple bet Sgt. Ryan. All this talk and nothing to show for it. Since there is no guarantee that OU and USC will meet in the bcs championship game, I will go with losses. If you have the guts to play, then read on. If OU loses a game, then you have to sport the avatar of my choice. I will do the same if USC loses. If neither loses a game, then we get what we want. Anyone have a better idea? I think Sgt. Ryan would look good sporting a glossy photo of Matt Leinart.

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I aint skeered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mofo I'll take you up on it!!!!!!!!! but some stipulations!!!!! if usc and ou both lose is it a push???? and if not do each of wear the others avatar, and if so how long??????? I know you can see where I'm going with this... usc loses next week and ou loses 6 weeks from now then what?????

 

Bottom line though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR ON>>>>>AINT SKEERED

 

 

 

I can eat my crow like a man, but you A are the one I think will be chowing down!!! :D

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my problem with the bet is this.  Its a BS bet.  USC plays nobody but Cal all yr long.  If they lose a game it will be that game, then roll over the rest of the Wac-10.  If USC played in the Big 12, then Id take the bet, but OU will have tests every other week in this conference, where USC wont.  Which makes OU run through the conference amazing last yr putting up 50 on so many of them, before reading their press clippings and getting chopped down in the Championship game, which is something else USC wont have to face.  USC has a gravey schedule, and its not even your school.  If you got balls of stone, lets bet your school vs mine, starting from today.  Ill give you a pass on the previous 2 loses already.  Hell Ill even give ARZ one more loss before we start counting. 

But for you to pick a team in the weakest conference of the BCS conferences and the best team in that conference, compared to arguably a top 3 conference with the SEC and ACC the only ones better when OU has to play  Texas, Nebraska, KSU, Okie St, Texas Tech and Missouri remaining, I dont think so.

 

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It wouldn't be a very good bet if I go with AZ. I will lose every week. Not that I don't love the CATS, but that would be like saying, I will take the cardinals and you get the patriots. Let's just forget it. You may be right about the PAC-10 being weaker than the other conferences, but USC is unmistakenly the best in the country. Im not so sure how tough the Big 12 really is. I will admit that OU looks like the best, but it's early and KSu laid an egg vs Fresno - Mizzou getting beat by Troy state. Those teams used to be ranked fairly high. OSU looks like a team that will sneak up on some folks with that running attack. I would go as far to say that USC vs OU - CAL vs TEX - ASU vs OSU would end up PAC 10 3-0 in those match ups. ASU blew out Iowa (12) 44-7 and CAL is solid. Leinart, Rogers, and Walter are all great passers with Rogers and Leinart with excellent RBs. Just my opinion. We can guess until we are blue in the face without seeing them play against one another.

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LMMFAO - Id bet the Big 12 would cake walk those 3 teams.  USC is not the best team in the country by a long shot imo.  Im not so sure they are better than Cal, let alone Ga, OU, Texas, and even Fresno St for that matter.  USC wont play Fresno St for a reason.  Their coach has only called USC out 2 yrs in a row for refusing to accept a home and home with Fresno St.    USC is #1 because of sports writers who gave them a piece of a title they didnt earn.  Did they even win the Pac-10 outright.  How can you say they are better than Cal, Cal beat them.  And if you are using the excuse they had fewer loses in the Pac-10 so they are the champs, OU had 1 loss in the big 12, in the title game, where every other team lost at least 2 Big 12 games, but they are not the Big 12 Champs. USC is given the Pac-10 title because of fewer loses, OU is not the Big 12 champs because their conference believes in playing for it, even though OU by the Pac-10s standards would be Conference Champions.  How weak is that.  USC was handed the Pac-10 just as they were a piece of LSU's National Championship.  They certainly didnt earn it and take it on the field.  There is no doubt in my mind had USC been forced to play Cal again last yr for the pac-10 title, they wouldnt have even been in a BCS game, let alone given a piece of LSU's title.  How can you say there is a National Title game if the team that wins it isnt the Champs, the only champs.  How can you give a piece to a team that only has to beat up on a Lil 10 team in USC's backyard in front of 100,000 USC fans.  I dont get it. How can the writers be this stupid and biased to a team whose strength of schedule is the weakest of any of the BCS team. How can the formula that is in place be changed in the middle of the season, that of the BCS, to give this fraud team a piece of anything.  How can a team that doesnt earn a title be given a piece of it when the formula said this team didnt deserve to be in the title game.  Im all for changing things if there is a problem, but not in the middle of the game.  USC lost to an unranked cal team before Cal boosted its record knocking off other Wac-10 teams that you even agreed is the weakest conferecne in the BCS.  Further more how can the BCS ever say if you dont win your conference you can't play for the title when the conference standards are not all the same.  Had OU not been forced to play a Conference Championship game, they would have been the Big 12 champs.  USC didnt have to play one and probably would have lost again to the team that beat them already.  Its really really sad.  Im not going to argue on this point again.  Not all things are equal by a long shot.  The Wac- 10 is the weakest BCS conference in the country.  Thus USC can pad its win totals and avoid playing quality opponents to get to a BCS game. The Wac-10 doesnt make its Champion play in a title game to prove it is the champion.  Im done here, this conference is a joke from top to bottom, and yes that includes USC.

 

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One thing is for certain, you are blind, but consistent. It really sucks to reduce ourselves to this, but without a real tournament to settle things, that is the way it is. Having a big 12 tourney is stupid considering the risk. Why the hell have a tourney? I like the idea and would like to see the national championship decided with this platform. Rankings of any kind along with some geeky formula to determine who plays in a championship is bizarro logic. I am done as well. The weak 12 is overrated. Hell, Kansas may win the north. A friggen basketball college.

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One thing is for certain, you are blind, but consistent.  It really sucks to reduce ourselves to this, but without a real tournament to settle things, that is the way it is.  Having a big 12 tourney is stupid considering the risk.  Why the hell have a tourney?  I like the idea and would like to see the national championship decided with this platform.  Rankings of any kind along with some geeky formula to determine who plays in a championship is bizarro logic.  I am done as well.  The weak 12 is overrated.  Hell, Kansas may win the north.  A friggen basketball college.

 

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Which would be the same thing if Arizona ever won the Wac-10 title, but hell we know that won't ever happen, even in the weakest BCS conference in the land.

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I'm no OU fan, but have to agree with Sgt. Ryan here. USC would already have a loss if it were not for some lousy officiating in the VT game. USC is a top 5-10 team, but no way it is #1. You saying that Cal could beat Texas is just hilarious. I'll give you the Big 12 North is as weak as the Pac 10, but take out Baylor and A&M, and the South steam rolls the Pac 10.

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Which would be the same thing if Arizona ever won the Wac-10 title, but hell we know that won't ever happen, even in the weakest BCS conference in the land.

 

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You have to give your boy Stoops a chance in AZ. I like there chances in 3 years. They can recruit some players and get rid of the losing attitude anything is possible. Notice how Miami is gaining on OU? You guys better play someone in a hurry. They have one vote for #1 in the poles and the bcs computer loves them to. USC is #1, OU is #2 but losing ground. Haha!

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I'm no OU fan, but have to agree with Sgt. Ryan here.  USC would already have a loss if it were not for some lousy officiating in the VT game.  USC is a top 5-10 team, but no way it is #1.  You saying that Cal could beat Texas is just hilarious.  I'll give you the Big 12 North is as weak as the Pac 10, but take out Baylor and A&M, and the South steam rolls the Pac 10.

 

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Keep dreaming. Cal would beat Texas. Why is that so hard to believe? A team with that much balance could embarrass anyone including USC or OU. Rogers and Arrington are for real. I think that even Sgt. Ryan would agree that this could happen. The PAC 10 is weak, because it's traditional powers have been struggling. Stanford and ASU are coming on and could make things interesting for USC. I don't think USC is going to cake walk through this conferance.

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You saying that Cal could beat Texas is just hilarious. 

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Why? You even used the word "could", as in its not even possible. You really think TX is that great this year, or that Cal is a bad team? Many people thought OU was unbeatable before they lost to KSU and LSU last year, which is why they play the games! This year, MO losing to Troy & Nebraska's recent loss at home also come to mind.

 

You sound as cocky as Sgt Ryan, which is sad.....

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Why?  You even used the word "could", as in its not even possible.  You really think TX is that great this year, or that Cal is a bad team?  Many people thought OU was unbeatable before they lost to KSU and LSU last year, which is why they play the games!  This year, MO losing to Troy & Nebraska's recent loss at home also come to mind. 

 

You sound as cocky as Sgt Ryan, which is sad.....

 

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atleast THIS :D feller has a brain. B)

only the fools believed OU was unbeatable last year. people comparing them to best of all time :D:D gimme the 71/95 huskers in a blowout vs 03 sooners anyday. yeah neb lost at home, i give credit to USM, we're in a transition period so it's kind of...not expected, but tolerated. you watch though, neb's gonna have a great class of kids coming in this year & the following, and we're gonna be real good in a couple years. i actually think we'll be real good next year, being we only lose 4 starters and bring in a 4 or 5 star juco (demorrio williams ring a bell?) at WR/DB. return the nations best (IMO) secondary when healthy. qb will have a year GAME experience under his belt, when he's already shown flashes of being amazing, and cory ross/tierre green will just have a year more experience, as well as our O line. biggest loss= linebacker barrett ruud :D

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Why?  You even used the word "could", as in its not even possible.  You really think TX is that great this year, or that Cal is a bad team?  Many people thought OU was unbeatable before they lost to KSU and LSU last year, which is why they play the games!  This year, MO losing to Troy & Nebraska's recent loss at home also come to mind. 

 

You sound as cocky as Sgt Ryan, which is sad.....

 

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I think Texas is a better than average team, in a better than average conference. I think that Cal is anverage team in a below average conference. I'm not saying that Texas is great. I'm saying Texas is better than Cal, and probably about on par with USC, which I don't consider to be a great team.

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I think Texas is a better than average team, in a better than average conference.  I think that Cal is anverage team in a below average conference.  I'm not saying that Texas is great.  I'm saying Texas is better than Cal, and probably about on par with USC, which I don't consider to be a great team.

 

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hey texas has a lot of talented players, but the difference is MACK BROWN. 3-8 vs. top 10 or something like that. :bigshock: :DB) so id go w/ cal cause they got mucho better coaching, i believe. :D

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I think Texas is a better than average team, in a better than average conference.  I think that Cal is anverage team in a below average conference.  I'm not saying that Texas is great.  I'm saying Texas is better than Cal, and probably about on par with USC, which I don't consider to be a great team.

 

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Neither one has played a conference game as of yet. I fail to see your logic. Cal is ranked 9 and Tex is 5. Not a big difference there. They certainly have a superior coach in Tedford vs Mack Brown.

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Neither one has played a conference game as of yet.  I fail to see your logic.  Cal is ranked 9 and Tex is 5.  Not a big difference there.  They certainly have a superior coach in Tedford vs Mack Brown.

 

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Isn't TX always ranked high before getting whacked by OU?? Just like last year, Cal is underrated and TX is overrated, and right now I'd say they're neck and neck in the #6-9 range. It would be a good game, and I'd bet on Cal to win....

 

As far as USC being an average team, that guy is out of his mind. They are way ahead of where they were this time last year, so they won't let a Cal or Stanford sneak up on them this year. Not saying they can't lose, ("that's why they play the games") but it will be because those other teams are improved, not due to a lack of preparation on USC's part.

 

Put your money where your mouth is, and let us know how you do - seriously. I dare you to bet (real money) against them. Other than the Cal loss, I believe they beat the spread 12 of 13 games last year, and are 2 of 3 ATS so far (except vs. VaTech) this year. If they get to the Orange Bowl, I wouldn't bet against them, if I were you. That is, assuming you like money...

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You're right, and I just checked a few things:

 

They were 11 of 13 ATS in 2003, not covering vs. BYU at home (spread was 21.5, they won by 17, 35-18) and losing to Cal on the road in 3OT (favored by 13.5).

 

They are 2-1 this year ATS. The Stanford game is at -22 right now, but it makes me nervous - I think Stanford is much better this year than last. Although USC is an incredible 9-2 in their last 11 as double digit road favorites, I'm not betting this one. I think we'll win by maybe 14 or 17, but not 22.

 

Carroll always puts in the 2nd stringers late in the 3Qtr (or early 4Q) if he's up big, which is when most of the points were scored against us last year (Cal and Michigan notwithstanding.) That is the only reason I wouldn't bet this one. Of course, if Leinart goes down early or the team bus is in an accident on the way to the stadium, they might lose straight up, but I seriously doubt it....

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atleast THIS  :D feller has a brain.  B)

only the fools believed OU was unbeatable last year. people comparing them to best of all time  :D  :D  gimme the 71/95 huskers in a blowout vs 03 sooners anyday. yeah neb lost at home, i give credit to USM, we're in a transition period so it's kind of...not expected, but tolerated. you watch though, neb's gonna have a great class of kids coming in this year & the following, and we're gonna be real good in a couple years. i actually think we'll be real good next year, being we only lose 4 starters and bring in a 4 or 5 star juco (demorrio williams ring a bell?) at WR/DB. return the nations best (IMO) secondary when healthy. qb will have a year GAME experience under his belt, when he's already shown flashes of being amazing, and cory ross/tierre green will just have a year more experience, as well as our O line. biggest loss= linebacker barrett ruud :D

 

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Unfortunate for Nebraksa, they will get crushed in Norman this yr and the Husker faithful will be calling for their coach;s head afterwards.

 

 

Talk is cheap, LSU won it all last yr on the field. USC was given a piece of their title. If USC can get to the Title game we can talk, last yr they couldnt get there so if they do it will be an improvement imo, but if they do, just remember I said back in Sept they will get their ass kicked by OU.

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