Sgt. Ryan Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Red River Shoot-Out is a mere 11 hours away. For those that don't know DMD is a Tex-ass Graduate and myself, well Im a Sooner living in Big D. DMD, I'll ask you a media to Cedric Benson type of question? Would you rather have a Texas Win over OU, or a Fantasy Football Championship this yr? Personally I want a Sooner Win, more than another Fantasy Championship. BOOMER SOONER Interesting read from ESPN, also posted at College football, but didnt think DMD would see it there. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...=bayless/041008 Lovin Mack in Oklahoma By Skip Bayless Page 2 University of Texas fans are serving a Martha Stewart kind of sentence. They're treated more like guests than inmates. But they're still in prison. They're being held captive by a back-slappin', hand-shakin', fund-raisin', mama-pleasin', 10-game-winnin' great old boy named Mack Brown. The burnt orange made nationally famous by Darrell Royal and Earl Campbell has turned to shades of Brown. As in, painfully pretty good. The Longhorns fumbled their way to a 65-13 loss last season. As in, "We won 10 games and lost to Oklahoma by 52." This weekend in Dallas, which is approximately three hours south of Oklahoma's campus in Norman and three hours north of the Texas campus in Austin, Sooners fans and Longhorns fans will trade taunts on the downtown streets Friday night and on the State Fair midway before and after Saturday's annual OU-Texas border war. War? Make that invasion. OU Stoops to conquer. For four straight years, coach Bob Stoops and his win-or-die Sooners have left Texas fans feeling like they got run over by a ... well, a Mack truck. OU has won by 49, 11, 10 and 52 points. Yup, last year it was 65-13. So what exactly are Texas fans supposed to yell back at Sooner fans this weekend? "Yeah, but we've finished in the top 12 four years in a row!" Or, "Yeah, but Mack has increased our season tickets from 39,700 to 66,300 and our revenues from $27 million to $55 million!" Or, "Yeah, but Mack is the only coach in the country who has won nine or more games eight years in a row, including his days at North Carolina!" Or, "Yeah, but only us and Miami have gone six straight years winning nine games or more!" Or, "Yeah, but our coach makes more money than yours." That's right. Because of a $1.6 million annuity he receives this year, Brown is the highest-paid coach in the country. In Texas, lots of folks chant "four more years" for their former governor. But in Dallas this weekend, Oklahoma fans will be chanting "four more years" for Mack Brown. OU fans love this guy. While their coach coaches to win (and win by a landslide), Brown coaches not to lose. While Stoops makes his players believe that losing to Texas is a fate worse than ACL surgery, Texas running back Cedric Benson recently admitted on ESPN Radio that he'd rather win the Heisman than beat Oklahoma. Mack's last stand: Beat OU or ... Like coach, like running back. Lately, the typical Texas attitude toward the Oklahoma game has been, "Hey, it's not the end of the world." This season, Texas doesn't have to play Nebraska or Kansas State in the Big 12. So what the heck, Texas might lose only one game. The Game. Here's the one Mack Brown stat you will not read in the Texas media guide: In 10 seasons at North Carolina and six at Texas, he hasn't won a single conference championship. Not national. Conference. Yes, in the last four years, Texas has won nine, 11, 11 and 10 games. But somehow, Mack's team always seems to wind up in the Holiday Bowl. In fact, San Diego's Holiday Bowl is where Brown became buddies with San Diego's Phil Mickelson. Talk about a common bond. Until last April's Masters, neither could win the big one. But columnist Kirk Bohls of the Austin American-Statesman reports that after Mickelson finally broke though and won a major championship, he called Brown that Sunday night from Augusta and said: "Now it's your turn!" To do what? Keep it reasonably close against Stoops? Maybe even cover the seven-point spread? Could Brown finally lose his job if he loses big to OU again? All week, athletic department officials and powerful alums have been quoted as saying Brown's job is not in jeopardy. Former coach Royal, who remains close to the program, told the Washington Post that the search committee "could still be looking and it wouldn't find a better fit" than Brown. Royal raved about Brown's P.R. charm -- "he's good at the mike" -- but you wonder how Royal privately critiques Brown's ability to teach, game-plan, adjust on the fly and motivate players. Holy Bevo! Texas alum and Detroit Lions rookie Roy Williams, who already rivals Michael Vick for "SportsCenter" highlights, failed to catch a single touchdown pass in four games against Oklahoma. That had something to do with Stoops. That had more to do with Brown. Before OU games, Royal could convince players to run through a wall for him. Brown would have a better chance of convincing alums to help paint the wall. Cedric Benson piled up yards against Baylor, but can he do it against OU? You wonder how major donors such as Texas Rangers owner Tom Hicks will feel about good ol' Mack by Saturday night if his alma mater gets embarrassed again. That's why longtime Longhorn observers believe this game is crucial for Brown. If he finally breaks through and beats Stoops, Texas could contend for a national championship and Mack Brown could become the next Darrell Royal. All those years of being just good enough not to get fired would suddenly start looking legendary. It worked for Tom Osborne at Nebraska. But if Oklahoma paints Texas faces red again ... Brown attempted to level the Cotton Bowl field this year by hiring former NFL defensive coordinator Greg Robinson and former Arizona coach Dick Tomey to make his defense more physical and better prepared for the onslaught of Heisman winner Jason White and the Oklahoma offense. Benson, who chose not to turn pro and stayed for his senior year, also should help keep OU's offense off the field. If Benson can bang away at the most vulnerable defense Stoops has had in five years -- maybe carry 35 times for 150 yards -- Texas has a chance. But Oklahoma has a better chance because of a pure freshman from Palestine, Texas. Adrian Peterson, rated the nation's No. 1 running back recruit, chose Oklahoma over the Burnt Orange he grew up loving. Why? Because he wanted to "win championships." That quote alone should have jeopardized Brown's job. For the first time in five years, OU no longer is basically a shotgun-formation passing team. And for the first time in Brown's career, his apologists can't argue that he at least is a great recruiter. The state of Texas produced the nation's No. 1 quarterback recruit, too, last season. Grand Prairie's Rhett Bomar also defected to Oklahoma. This week in practice, Bomar is impersonating Texas quarterback Vince Young. You can bet Bomar already is a better passer than Young. If Texas is forced to throw on Saturday, remember the Alamo. Texas fans had better hope that Stoops, Peterson and Bomar leave for the NFL soon. Saturday's prediction: Oklahoma 35, Mack 14. And afterward, OU fans will be calling Texas talk shows to defend Brown. They'd hate to see him go. Skip Bayless recently joined ESPN after a career as a sports columnist that includes stops in Miami, Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago and San Jose. He can be seen Monday through Friday on "Cold Pizza," ESPN2's morning show. His column will appear weekly on Page 2. Enjoy the game DMD, I just hope this one hurts you and not me...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Texas gets embarrassed again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Well, I wouldn't care to bet on this since the Texas passing game has yet to really show. If I had to choose, I would take a Texas win over OU since I am in eight leagues this year and would could choose which one to lose (I have some good candidates unfortnately thanks to injuries) I'm just hoping that when Benson goes to the NFL draft that no one notices him in any of my leagues.... yeah... that will happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 I think this finally going to be a good game, but Texas will come up short again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Has TU EVER won this game? Skylive and Robn are probably the only 2 huddlers who were alive the last time Oklahomo lost to Bevo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Truth time ... The difference with Oklahoma this year is the rushing attack. Oklahoma was ranked 65th in the nation last year in rushing which lead to alot of passing for Jason White which lead to the Heisman. This year Oklahoma has a solid rushing attack with returning players but they also have the difference maker in freshman Adrian Peterson. For Texas Benson has been lights out rushing the ball, he's one of the current favorites to win the Heisman this year. Oklahoma is STILL weak against the run and will have to stop Benson if they want to win this game. Texas does not have a passing attack, which is the difference. Game Keys: Texas wins if they can run the ball and get into OU's backfield and pressure Jason White. If you put pressure on White he will make mistakes as K-State proved last year in the BIG 12 Chmapionship game. Texas still has Mack Brown as coach which means he'll find a way to screw up the game. Oklahoma wins if they can stop Benson and protect Jason White. Oklahoma must protect the ball and win special teams. Prediction: Texas makes it a lot closer this year but Oklahoma has had their number since the addition of the K-State coaches. Texas will turn the ball over as they always do vs. Oklahoma. OU's special teams will make plays. Texas CAN win this game but they will NOT. Oklahoma 31-24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 ... the difference maker in freshman Adrian Peterson. 473088[/snapback] First carry 44-yards. :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Too bad all the other offensive plays haven't done much yet Hook 'em! (and since OU hasn't scored yet, it's already better than last year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 or that five yard loss he just had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Yes it has, but Benson is not the best RB in this game as we saw on Peterson's first carry of the game. 473191[/snapback] Are you for real?? Benson is a proven RB, Peterson doesn't even start for his own team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 I don't watch college football much. This Jason White guy - is he a replacement QB for someone who can complete a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Opps. Might want to tell that Jason White guy to hold on to the ball too, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Doesnt start, LMMFAO, Peterson makes Maurice Clarett look like a 9 yr old. If you had a clue, you would know out of respect for Kejaun Jones and experience is is the starter, but look at the carries between those 2 and tell me who is the #1 back in Sooner Land. 473208[/snapback] Get a clue you weak little man, can you say Clarett and National Championship, this Peterson couldn't hold his jock, and like i said Benson is far more superior the back than Peterson, for all we now he's probably just a 1 or 2 week wonder, if memory serves me correctly Benson has been good for 4 years and Clarett was THE BEST RB in the country as a Freshman and led his team to a Championship, like i said little man when you learn a little more they may promate you to SGT. 1st Class, but as of now you'll have to earn your stripes All, and as for Peterson leading his team to a National Championship one word after today TEXAS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 I don't watch college football much. This Jason White guy - is he a replacement QB for someone who can complete a pass? 473217[/snapback] They would have been better served with a QB more on the line of let's say a Krenzel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 rain should make it a bit sloppy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Can you say Northwestern. Nuff said punk ass. DMD, time to hit the ignore button on this clueless jack ass 473237[/snapback] Clueless? ANY IDIOT!!, YEA that's right IDIOT, that would say Peterson is the best RB in this game is just that an IDIOT!! If people want to listen to your jacked up , pucked out BS let them, but for all your smack you have the weakest substance of any huddler out there, and if DMD would listen to the masses, you'd be renamed PRIVATE BENJAMIN Now ignore that! PUNK OU 6th best offense in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Where did Adrian Peterson go to High school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Spain, What do you say about that cash for LB trade in Fusion? Its at MFL for you to accept. 473255[/snapback] Let me go look.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 How come Oklahoma cannot actually find players from Oklahoma? This is really just Texas vs. Texas-Traitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Sarge: i accepted your trade offer on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Are you for real?? Benson is a proven RB, Peterson doesn't even start for his own team. 473201[/snapback] I am going to have to agree with theohiostate here. If Adrian Peterson cant average more than 11.2 yards per carry, then he sucks. He couldnt start for a juco team.. :bigshock: :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 I'm thinking that betting the under on the 54 total points was the best play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Cool, go to the message board and accept so DKF can finalize it. Nice doing business with ya Spain. 473292[/snapback] done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 you mean back when he had two knees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Peterson is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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