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Oklahoma plays well but can't pull away from the No. 5 team 12-0.

USC struggles (without Darnell Bing, and the offense dies after No. 1 WR breaks leg) but never trails in beating the No. 7 team 23-17.

 

USC dominates the No. 15 team 45-7 (42-7 at the half).

Oklahoma trails in the second half and struggles to beat an unranked team 31-21.

 

Sgt. Ryan, just remember that when disrespecting USC and lauding Oklahoma.

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Oklahoma plays well but can't pull away from the No. 5 team 12-0.

USC struggles (without Darnell Bing, and the offense dies after No. 1 WR breaks leg) but never trails in beating the No. 7 team 23-17.

 

USC dominates the No. 15 team 45-7 (42-7 at the half).

Oklahoma trails in the second half and struggles to beat an unranked team 31-21.

 

Sgt. Ryan, just remember that when disrespecting USC and lauding Oklahoma.

 

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:D He won't let up 'till they get embarrassed AGAIN!! Just hope it's not in a title game again, where some other teams get stiffed like last year. LSU vs USC is what the nation was crying for, and look what we ended up with an overmatched, over hyped and out coached O who team. PLEEEASSSSSSEEE don't let that happen again, SEND THE BEST TEAMS THIS YEAR MR. BCS!!! :D

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Oklahoma plays well but can't pull away from the No. 5 team 12-0.

USC struggles (without Darnell Bing, and the offense dies after No. 1 WR breaks leg) but never trails in beating the No. 7 team 23-17.

 

USC dominates the No. 15 team 45-7 (42-7 at the half).

Oklahoma trails in the second half and struggles to beat an unranked team 31-21.

 

Sgt. Ryan, just remember that when disrespecting USC and lauding Oklahoma.

 

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Cal is better than USC, its just a shame their WR fell down in the endzone or we would no longer be talking about USC anymore, like OS Who. Well we laugh at OS Who cause they flat out suck ass.

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If, If, If If, If ... There's no guarantee he would have caught it or that USC wouldn't have driven for the winning field goal. I suspect they would have, because that's what teams that have won 18 home games in a row and 27 of their past 28 overall do. USC played badly against Cal and still won.

 

USC has finished each of the past two seasons much more strongly than it started them. That usually began, oh, around Game 6. You just might want to show respect to teams the way I have respect for Oklahoma. I'd hate to see you get embarrassed again like last year.

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If, If, If If, If ... There's no guarantee he would have caught it or that USC wouldn't have driven for the winning field goal. I suspect they would have, because that's what teams that have won 18 home games in a row and 27 of their past 28 overall do. USC played badly against Cal and still won.

 

USC has finished each of the past two seasons much more strongly than it started them. That usually began, oh, around Game 6. You just might want to show respect to teams the way I have respect for Oklahoma. I'd hate to see you get embarrassed again like last year.

 

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If you think a college football game can embarass me you are mistaken. I think OU hands down beats USC by 2 TDs if the game is played right now or in a January. Its my opinion. We all have one. I simply think USC isnt that good. Playing 1 decent team a year doesnt impress me a bit in that streak. If, and there is no doubt in my mind, USC played in the Big 12, they wouldnt win the South, let alone the conference. So when you play a bunch of patsies, minus 1 solid team a yr and you win that game, what does that prove. Come January, OU will show you how good yoru team is. And OU has tests every other week, to get there. USC can pack its bags right now, only cupcakes remain on that schedule. No wonder USC wasnt in the title game last yr. Their SOS was Athena, the only decent team they played they lost too.

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If you think a college football game can embarass me you are mistaken.  I think OU hands down beats USC by 2 TDs if the game is played right now or in a January.  Its my opinion.  We all have one.  I simply think USC isnt that good.  Playing 1 decent team a year doesnt impress me a bit in that streak.  If, and there is no doubt in my mind, USC played in the Big 12, they wouldnt win the South, let alone the conference.  So when you play a bunch of patsies, minus 1 solid team a yr and you win that game, what does that prove.  Come January, OU will show you how good yoru team is.  And OU has tests every other week, to get there.  USC can pack its bags right now, only cupcakes remain on that schedule.  No wonder USC wasnt in the title game last yr.  Their SOS was Athena, the only decent team they played they lost too.

 

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If you think a college football game can embarass me you are mistaken. I think USC hands down beats OU by 2 TDs if the game is played right now or in a January. Its my opinion. We all have one. I simply think OU isnt that good. Playing 1 decent team a year doesnt impress me a bit in that streak. If, and there is no doubt in my mind, OU played in the PAC 10, they wouldnt win a game. So when you play a bunch of patsies, minus 1 solid team a yr and you win that game, what does that prove. Come January, USC will show you how good yoru team is. And USC has tests every other week, to get there. OU can pack its bags right now, only cupcakes remain on that schedule.

 

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Cal is not a better team than USC - they never lead, Rodgers had one of his best games, and yet they still lost on a day that the USC offense was not clicking vs. a very tough and experienced Cal D. Stanford and Cal had a shot, but they couldn't do it because Leinart is too smart and USC's D has a bend-but-don't-break mentality. In these 2 ways USC is very similar to the Pats in the NFL.

 

And like the Pats, USC is definitely not invincible, but is it smart to bet against them (straight up, not vs. the spread,) on any given week because they are "due" for a loss? Hell no, that's just being dumb with your money. USC has not lost at home in over 3 years, and the streak continues....

 

Who's next?

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They play nobody at home.  Thats Who.

Comparing this over-rated team USC, who doesnt play anyone but cupcakes other than 1 game a yr is an insult to the Pats, and I hate the Pats.

 

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Didn't you yell at LiL10isaJoke a few weeks back for stealing "your" avatar. Now you steal "my" sigline! :D I'll share, though 'cause it's just so *** awsome!

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The games aren't what should embarrass you, Ryan. Your comments should. One would think you would have learned last year. But obviously you aren't that quick a learner.

 

Now why don't we look at some facts, since they rarely come out of your posts.

 

*USC has played three teams currently ranked in the AP Top 25. Oklahoma has played one.

*USC's top opponent No. 7 Cal is ranked higher than Oklahoma's top opponent No. 8 Texas.

*Oklahoma has two ranked opponents remaining in Oklahoma State and Texas A&M to one for USC in Notre Dame. Oklahoma will also probably have a ranked opponent in the conference championship game, giving the Sooners 4 opponents currently ranked in the top 25 compared to an equal four for USC.

*USC started the season by dangerously playing a team currently ranked in that team's own backyard. Oklahoma starts the season by pathetically playing Bowling Green and Houston at home.

*USC played three of its first four games on the road while Oklahoma played its first four games at home.

 

USC's willingness to play tough teams early and on the road has led to strong finishes the past two seasons. Oklahoma, afraid to leave the safe confines of its home, choked at the end of last season.

 

Sorry to challenge your rhetoric. I know you like to go unchallenged for as long as possible like your Sooners.

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There is no swaying Athena. The facts were clearly stated. But it's interesting that you lead your post with getting facts straight and then offer very few, instead resorting back to your usual rhetoric.

 

Games are more difficult early in the season because teams have yet to gel. Top-ranked teams are more susceptible to upset. USC's strong finishes have nothing to do with home games. Out of USC's eight consecutive victories to end the regular season last year, four were at home and four on the road. That Cal and Arizona State were at home this year has nothing to do with USC scheduling, it's just how the Pac-10 worked out this year.

 

Conference championship games are all about the money they bring in.

 

USC makes a much greater effort to schedule tough nonconference games than Home-Sweet-Home Oklahoma. Two of USC's four noncoference opponents are currently ranked. In addition to playing Notre Dame every year, USC played three traditionally good teams with one currently ranked. Last year, USC scheduled Auburn, which was ranked No. 6 at the time. The previous year, USC played Auburn, at Colorado, at Kansas State and of course Notre Dame. Three of those teams were ranked, with two in the top 10 at some point during the season. Over the next three seasons, USC already has scheduled Arkansas, Nebraska and Ohio State.

 

Fresno State hasn't earned a game with USC. With the rhetoric you spill, it's not surprising you would buy the rhetoric of Pat Hill. Why would USC play Fresno State, a team that lost to Louisiana State and UTEP? Winning the game would get USC no additional national respect. Playing the game would not bring in much revenue compared to other games USC could play. USC doesn't need any help recruiting in Fresno. While playing Colorado State or Virginia Tech is important to boost USC recruiting in those areas. USC will do what is best for itself, not what is best for Fresno State. There is currently no point in USC playing Fresno State. If Fresno State makes a BCS bowl game, that might change.

 

Backing into a title? Lmao. Losing to Kansas State is backing into a title game. Winning your last eight regular season games is not and beating the best team given to you in the BCS bowl game is not. If USC backed into the title, then so did LSU by getting to play Oklahoma instead of the Trojans.

 

I don't know that USC is the best team right now. I know USC is a very good team that has lost a lot of players in the past year but has many inexperienced players that are beginning to gel. I know USC has some of the best coaches in college football, who have the penchant for leading the team to strong finishes. I expect USC to battle for the national championship and respect other teams that are doing the same. You could learn a little about class and humility, Ryan. But if you didn't learn it last year, I suspect you never will.

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Considering I don't expect them to lose to the patsies left on their schedule, I expect them to make the Orange Bowl.  I can only pray OU get there too and we can end the talk, and let the teams show what they got.

 

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Good - that sounds like a plan to me too. Although I suppose you'll have to pray a lot harder for your OU team to make it than I will for USC, since your poor team has to play a tougher schedule. BTW, if you're confident they are really superior to these other teams, why does the schedule matter? (Sorry, Mr. Logic trying to sneak in here again...)

 

In fact, the only thing I pray for before a big game is a lack of injuries on both sides - since I really don't think God cares who wins a football game. He's got more important things to worry about - war, famine, disease, etc.....

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Good - that sounds like a plan to me too.  Although I suppose you'll have to pray a lot harder for your OU team to make it than I will for USC, since your poor team has to play a tougher schedule.  BTW, if you're confident they are really superior to these other teams, why does the schedule matter?  (Sorry, Mr. Logic trying to sneak in here again...)

 

In fact, the only thing I pray for before a big game is a lack of injuries on both sides - since I really don't think God cares who wins a football game.  He's got more important things to worry about - war, famine, disease, etc.....

 

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I am impartial in this whole argument. I am an Alabama fan... but here is my breakdown of this clash .

 

USC - this is not a team to sleep on IMO. The way to beat OU is to make constant adjustments and find ways to get pressure on White ( and stop the run obviously). If there is one coach that can do that - its Pete Carrol. IF this game were to be played tonight , my guess would be that Leinart would be coached to spread them out with quick hits and screens ( to Bush) , mix in the run, and things to keep Ou's defense on its heels. On defense they would probly sit in an Nfl style hybrid zone and blitz off of that .. sort of like what OU did to texas. Try and keep White confused and hope for a mistake.

 

OU - Very tough team. They make no mistake about wanting to run the ball and just dare you to sell out to stop the run. Thats when they kill you with their wrs. Ou would come out running the ball and stretching the defense out with the occasional pass. Nothing spectacular, nothing dangerous. White's job would be to not do anything dumb.. that is it. On defense, they would do the same to Leinart as they did to Texas, .. blitz, and stunt to get pressure on him. Make sure that they are in some sort of a coverage to not allow the big play.

 

So IF this game were to be played tonight. I would say that Carroll would figure out a way to really get under Stoops' skin. USC wins 27-24 ...

 

And that is my view from the couch...

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Terrible lil ten champ?????? The only thing u have right, is they played in there

back yard. I dont care what your sooners have done lately, MICHIGAN is 1 of the top teams in the country year in and year out. When I was younger, I was told to think before you speak. Good advice dont ya think. Didnt a lil ten team spank K-state last year in the bowl game. The same team that destroyed the sooners last year. Im really trying to understand where u get some of this stuff from.

 

There will always be a debate which conference is better, which coach is better etc.. WHat good does it do to preach it here on the message board. I try and watch as much college football as I can, living in Big Ten country, I dont get to see

alot of Pac Ten, Big12 ,Acc ,Sec, games, so its really hard to get an Idea whos what. Try to open your eyes a little, No doubt your sooners are a good team, but theres alot of good teams out there, as well as coaches, I think u would enjoy football as whole. For what its worth I hope someday the bcs gets it right.

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Coach Carroll and Chow are equal in their contributions to gameplanning, Chow on offense and Carroll on defense. Carroll is a top-notch coach and it shows in his adjustments. There's a reason why USC has not allowed a touchdown in the fourth quarter this season.

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Nice analysis, but I disagree on 1 account.  Carroll is just an avg coach. Chow is what makes that team click and nobody in the country knows that more than Carroll.  If Chow had left for Arz, USC would have already lost at least one game this yr.  Carroll,  Just look at his record in the pros or big games in the past.  He has beaten cal this yr, that has got to be his biggest win as a college coach.  You can't tell me beating a terrible Lil 10 champ Michigan in yoru backyard counts as a big game, when you didnt have to fight someone for the same goal, the National Title.  LSU imo would have beat USC just the same as it did OU last yr, and that is with a healthy leinhart.  Stoops lives for games like this.  He has already won a National Championship, and made it to another.  His defense is far superior than USC, thus they could play straight up with USC with the blitz mixed in and get the job done.  USC on the other hand has a very avg defense and I think Peterson and White could pick them apart up and down the field all day.

 

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I follow your logic on Carroll and Chow and that is exactly my point... in a round about way. Chow's offense can compare with OU's defense..

 

Check it.

 

The only team that has a chance at beating OU's defense is a team that can make offensive adjustments, and run a NFL style , quick hitting offense. Stoops/Venables are too good at making defensive adjustments to beat him with a game plan .

 

Look at the NC picture now.. and I will include as many teams as I can to be fair.

 

Wisc would get killed by OU.

 

Boise St - Knee grow please.

 

Utah - nope.

 

Ok , the real threats here.

 

Miami. Dont think so. They wouldnt be able to run effectively and Berlin has proven that he can throw the key interception when it counts. Miami has the athletes but I think Berlin would get rocked. If OU has a best part of their defense - its the DLine and that doesnt bode well for Miami.

 

Auburn. Dead on the water. The barn cannot get anything done with out Cadillac running the ball. Campbell has shown that he can be effective on the pass, and can be quite mobile - but I think they would have to play outside of thier minds to win the NC.

 

UGA - they would make this a close, but that loss to UceaT is going to prevent them from getting there IMO. If they hadnt lost to UcheaT, then I would consider OU/UGA a trench war. UGA would need to win out ( and win big) , and get some help to get to the NC.

 

USC - They have the offense and the right offensive scheme to give OU fits. They spread the defense out all over the field and that is what you have to do versus OU. They like to get the ball to their athletes in space and let them make plays. When teams start to key on that .. then they hit the streak routes for the big play. Their defense will really be put to the test, but I think they can make this one interesting.

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Of course if Chow left it would hurt the offense. Chow coaches the offense. Carroll coaches the defense. If Chow left, the offense would far from fall off the face of the earth though.

 

Carroll was a very good defensive coordinator for the 49ers. As an NFL head coach, his record with New England was 27-21. He led the Patriots to the playoffs twice and had a .500 or better record in all three seasons. His winning percentage is second best in team history. Yes, that sure is terrible. More Sgt. Ryan rhetoric. But oops, you're not being allowed to not back it up anymore.

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Get real, Carroll was fired on his ass because he choked in the pros. 

 

USC hasnt played anyone but Cal, and we know, what happened in that game.

 

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Yes we sure do - Cal got beat by the #1 team in the country, as voted on by the people who've been around the game the most! 'Nuff said.

 

No wait, it can't be over, can it? Now Sgt. Cryin will go on about how he's more knowledgeable than all the coaches and writers combined....

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Sgt, USC is the only team in the nation to beat three teams currently ranked in the Top 25. gg

 

I don't say USC is guaranteed to win its 11th national championship. USC is a very good team that is a contender for the national title. Oklahoma is the same, except of course the Sooners are only going for their 8th national championship.

 

If you want to talk about opinions that aren't credible, Sgt, let's talk about your rhetoric-spewing, fact-ignoring, bias-showing self.

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If you had any faith in your boys, you wouldnt have to sway from week to week.  I don;t.  You know OU is the best team, you said it yourself.  If 1 win vs a Athena team like Arz St can sway you, and OU tussling with an improving KSU who also finishes strong each yr look at last yr for instance,  then don't post any longer.  Your opinion isnt credible.    :D

 

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Only a total homer would not take into consideration what happens on a given week, numbnuts. OU has consistently looked like either #1 or #2, and so has USC - on that I'm very consistent, and I believe they'll play in the Orange Bowl on 1/4/05. But on certain weeks USC looks slightly stronger, and on other weeks OU looks stronger.

 

If I was as blindly in love with my team as you are with yours, (and couldn't wait to gargle their sacks in the lockerrom every week like you do,) I might act like you do - and always say my team is #1 regardless of how they played that day. But I'm a realist....

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Only a total homer would not take into consideration what happens on a given week, numbnuts.  OU has consistently looked like either #1 or #2, and so has USC - on that I'm very consistent, and I believe they'll play in the Orange Bowl on 1/4/05.  But on certain weeks USC looks slightly stronger, and on other weeks OU looks stronger.

 

If I was as blindly in love with my team as you are with yours, (and couldn't wait to gargle their sacks in the lockerrom every week like you do,) I might act like you do - and always say my team is #1 regardless of how they played that day.  But I'm a realist....

 

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IF that were true, which I dont believe for a second, you would admit the Pac-10 is a 2 team conference this yr and Arz St shouldnt be ranked, period.

 

You would also admit your team got their ass handed to them by Cal, but escaped with a W.

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You would also admit your team got their ass handed to them by Cal, but escaped with a W.

 

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Nope, when it comes to getting into the endzone more than the other team and making better plays on special teams, (and/or taking advantage of their special team mistakes,) we handed their ass to them. And it showed up on the scoreboard.

 

The offensive yardage was reduced greatly by the good field postion we had all day - Cal was the team forced to make lengthy drives all day, not USC. And our bend-but-don't-break D mindset makes for those deceptive stats, kinda like last year. Like I said before - I wasn't happy with our sputtering offense at times, but Cal does have a good D - and we scored more TDs in the redzone than they did, and converted more of our FG attempts than they did, period.

 

Yep, we scored more than them, period. On his career day, going 23 for his first 23 attempts, Rodgers could still not beat us. Did his WR drop a sure TD on that final 3rd down play? Yes. Did USC WR/TEs also drop a couple big yardage passes, which may have led to more TDs for us? Yes, so that doesn't matter, your BS aside.

 

And the voters agree that USC should be ranked ahead of Cal, having beaten them head to head. This continuing rhetoric is just lame Ryan - the better team won that day, despite what you and that crackhead Lee Corso think....

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