Fury Posted October 27, 2004 Share Posted October 27, 2004 "I probably never gave the Pac-10 the respect it deserves," said Stoops, who was an assistant in the Big 12 and Big 10 conferences. "The teams here have been as well-coached as any place I've ever been." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szatzu Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Two Pac-10 teams would run the tables on the BIG 12. CAL and SC would both smoke the BIG-12 and every other conference...SC is the best team in the nation and CAL is the second best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URLACHERisGOD Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Two Pac-10 teams would run the tables on the BIG 12. CAL and SC would both smoke the BIG-12 and every other conference...SC is the best team in the nation and CAL is the second best... 519587[/snapback] And which poll do you represent again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Two Pac-10 teams would run the tables on the BIG 12. CAL and SC would both smoke the BIG-12 and every other conference...SC is the best team in the nation and CAL is the second best... 519587[/snapback] Without a doubt, as well as 2 Big Ten and SEC teams as well, how many more big games does the Lil 12 have to lose before the BCS just takes away their right to be bowl eligible anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Two Pac-10 teams would run the tables on the BIG 12. CAL and SC would both smoke the BIG-12 and every other conference...SC is the best team in the nation and CAL is the second best... 519587[/snapback] You got one thing right, Cal is the 2nd best team. But OU is the best. USC would get lit up by 3 Big 12 teams, and Cal only one, OU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Without a doubt, as well as 2 Big Ten and SEC teams as well, how many more big games does the Lil 12 have to lose before the BCS just takes away their right to be bowl eligible anyway? 519788[/snapback] Michigan would be struggling in the Big 12 north and Wisconsin would finish 4th in the Big 12 South. There isnt a Big 10 team out there that could be OU, Texas, or Okie St. Not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOB1 Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Michigan would be struggling in the Big 12 north and Wisconsin would finish 4th in the Big 12 South. There isnt a Big 10 team out there that could be OU, Texas, or Okie St. Not one. 520880[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 A&M would beat every WAC10 team with the exception of Cal and SC, and A&M would probably beat one of them. OU and Texas would beat both Cal and USC. I don't have as much faith in OSU (I'm talking about the OSU that is good, Oklahoma State, not Ohio), but they might beat them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) USC would get lit up by 3 Big 12 teams 520873[/snapback] Don't think so, Sarge, but that's just my opinion, in reaction to your opinion. But to try to figure out your logic, let's see: Cal is 2nd best, so OU is best, and USC is apparently somewhere below 2 other Big 12 teams. I assume you mean TX (#8, 9 or 10, depending on the poll) and OSU, (#19, 20, or 21) both of which are 6-1, along with Cal. So I guess in your personal BCS you put the Trojans at between #20 to 22. Unless you think those two are horribly underrated, deserving of a top 10, and therefore USC is maybe #11 - whatever, it doesn't matter for our purposes here. Hmm, USC (#1, 1 or 1, depending on the experts being polled,) beat your #2 Cal with a defense that stopped Cal when it had to, and they have an offense that scored more in the redzone on Cal's stout D when it had to then Cal could, mistakes or not. And the special teams comparison is not even close. And you said yourself that Cal has one of the best offenses you've seen, and should lay waste to the unfortunate Big10 team that Cal will face in the Rose Bowl. I agree on this point. Continuing on... TX got shut out once already, and has given up 20 to both Mizzou (who?!) and Arkansas (puh-leeze). Meanwhile, OSU could only hang a measly 20 on both Mizzou and TXA&M, and gave up 36 to A&M and 21 to Tulsa (who?!) So, how do the Cowboys or Longhorns "light up" the Trojans' tough D, or keep our stellar offense out of the endzone all day? Something doesn't add up, but that's your M.O. I don't know where you went to school, (OU??) but seriously - you should get your money back. Unless...were you hungover when you typed this? OK, that's what happened - so I'll give you a break here. Better luck next time - and you should lay off the bottle - that stuff can kill you.... Edited November 4, 2004 by Coffeeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiL10(s)ArEaJoKe Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) Two Pac-10 teams would run the tables on the BIG 12. CAL and SC would both smoke the BIG-12 and every other conference...SC is the best team in the nation and CAL is the second best... 519587[/snapback] Tenn, Auburn, Georgia, Ala, Flordia, and LSU in one year, not to mention Texas???? IF USC and Cal had Arkansas's schedule they might be lucky if they finished with only two losses!!!!!! Get a clue TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited October 30, 2004 by LiL10(s)ArEaJoKe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Posted October 30, 2004 Author Share Posted October 30, 2004 One thing is for certain, USC would blow out Texas. USC owns one-dimensional offensive teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 One thing is for certain, USC would blow out Texas. USC owns one-dimensional offensive teams. 523155[/snapback] USC couldnt stop Young and Benson, their defense isnt athletic enough to get that job done. But Texas may completely shut USC out. I see that game something in the neighborhood of 13-0, Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 A&M would beat every WAC10 team with the exception of Cal and SC, and A&M would probably beat one of them. OU and Texas would beat both Cal and USC. I don't have as much faith in OSU (I'm talking about the OSU that is good, Oklahoma State, not Ohio), but they might beat them as well. 522765[/snapback] a and m got rolled by a team in the Mt. West. conference. Thats a fact. I am not spewing forth hokey BS like every one of you big 12 freaks. ou would beat this team, a and m would beat that team. lets see what happens on the field freaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 (edited) One thing is for certain, USC would blow out Texas. USC owns one-dimensional offensive teams. 523155[/snapback] it is fruitless to have this discussion with these necks. we know that USC would blow out Texas. they can't live with the fact that a PAC 10 team is sitting atop of the polls. Edited October 30, 2004 by BIG A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 a and m got rolled by a team in the Mt. West. conference. Thats a fact. I am not spewing forth hokey BS like every one of you big 12 freaks. ou would beat this team, a and m would beat that team. lets see what happens on the field freaks. 523718[/snapback] Add Baylor to the list of $hitty teams that a and m can't beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I figured this would be posted sooner or later, and my response to it is simple. A@M plays Baylor 10 times, they win 9 of 10 Miami plays North carolina they win 9 of 10 times Fla St plays Maryland they win 9 of 10 times What does this all mean, thats why they play the games. I just hope OU doesnt stumble and they get to play the game vs USC. Then instead of saying what would or could happen, we see what does happen. 527726[/snapback] I will just add that good teams can win by a landslide while great teams just win. I would place OU and USC into that category. Both do what they have to do. OU is balanced and seemingly unstoppable on offense. Pick your poison. If I were coaching against, I would choose to make White beat me since Peterson is a Oprahing monster. Peterson looks like Eric Dickerson with his upright running style and WILL be the #1 overall pick when he decides to go (Raiders hopefully). USC can score on anyone, and the defense is getting better. As you said Sgt. Ryan, OU only needs to survive to reach the NC game. USC has one more little test with UCLA, but should reach the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 According to OS Who, Adrian peterson couldnt carry Maruice Claretts jock Its nice to see a non Sooner fan think he is at least average 528280[/snapback] Yeah, average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Posted November 1, 2004 Author Share Posted November 1, 2004 If you don't think USC's defense is athletic, you're in for a big surprise come Jan. 4. Benson and Young? Here's just a partial list of rbs who have not gained 100 yards on USC since Carroll took over: Cadillac, Sproles, Chris Brown, Steven Jackson, Onterrio Smith, Chris Perry, Julius Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlence Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I will just add that good teams can win by a landslide while great teams just win. I would place OU and USC into that category. Both do what they have to do. OU is balanced and seemingly unstoppable on offense. Pick your poison. If I were coaching against, I would choose to make White beat me since Peterson is a Oprahing monster. Peterson looks like Eric Dickerson with his upright running style and WILL be the #1 overall pick when he decides to go (Raiders hopefully). USC can score on anyone, and the defense is getting better. As you said Sgt. Ryan, OU only needs to survive to reach the NC game. USC has one more little test with UCLA, but should reach the final. 528053[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 528541[/snapback] I know this may not be the right forum, but...Raiders really suck this year, AGAIN. But maybe that's your point - you think they'll finish last in the NFL to get the #1 pick. Still, AP going there would not solve all their problems.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 I know this may not be the right forum, but...Raiders really suck this year, AGAIN. But maybe that's your point - you think they'll finish last in the NFL to get the #1 pick. Still, AP going there would not solve all their problems.... 534916[/snapback] Well, it just hopeful thinking. AP will not be going for a couple more years. The Raiders will still be bad by then. A solid running game would do wonders for there passing game. You are right though, that won't shore up the defense. They will need a new coach as well. They will take Aaron Rodgers or Matt Leinart net year. I say build the defense with free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Well, it just hopeful thinking. AP will not be going for a couple more years. The Raiders will still be bad by then. A solid running game would do wonders for there passing game. You are right though, that won't shore up the defense. They will need a new coach as well. They will take Aaron Rodgers or Matt Leinart net year. I say build the defense with free agency. 534957[/snapback] Leinhart said he was playing his senior yr at USC. has this changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury Posted November 6, 2004 Author Share Posted November 6, 2004 It hasn't changed. But Leinart has admitted the possibility that it could change depending on circumstances and he isn't certain to be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG A Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Leinhart said he was playing his senior yr at USC. has this changed 538012[/snapback] If they win the NC, he will most likely leave I think. Rodgers may be the better Qb anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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