KevinL Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 KSU predicts Miami will probably still be ranked ahead of Ohio State. Current ESPN/USA Today rankings: 1 - Oklahoma - W 2 - Miami - L 3 - USC - W 4 - Georgia - L 5 - Florida State - W 6 - Washington State - L 7 - Ohio State - W 8 - LSU - W 9 - Nebraska - L 10 - Michigan State - L 11 - Virginia Tech - W 12 - Michigan - W I don't think there's any question Georgia & Washington State will fall below Ohio State. That puts Ohio State at #5, unless Virginia Tech or Michigan pass Ohio State based on their victories over higher ranked teams. Miami would then have to fall 3 spots or less to stay ranked ahead of Ohio State. Let's now look at some recent top 5 teams and their first loss. Week 5: Texas (8 spots) 5 -> 13 Week 6: Michigan (5 spots) 5 -> 10 Week 7: USC (7 spots) 3 -> 10 Week 9: Ohio State (5 spots) 3 -> 8 Week 9: Florida State (2 spots) 5 -> 7 Week 11: Virginia Tech (8 spots) 3 -> 11 What's the difference with Florida State? Why did they fall only 2 spots? They lost to a higher ranked team (#2 Miami). There is no precedent for Miami to fall 3 spots or less. They will probably be ranked in the 6-8 area, after Ok, USC, FSU, OSU, LSU. Possibly after VT & Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 2, 2003 Author Share Posted November 2, 2003 Please excuse my typo in the topic. Obviously I am interested in Miami's rank after the Virginia Tech loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 My predicted top 12 BCS projections 1 - Oklahoma 2 - USC 3 - Miami 4 - Fla St 5 - LSU 6 - Virginia Tech 7 - Ohio St 8 - Michigan 9 - Georgia 10 - Iowa 11 - TCU 12 - Tennessee 13 - Wash St 14 - Texas 15 - Michigan St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davearm Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Sgt. Ryan: My predicted top 12 BCS projections 1 - Oklahoma 2 - USC . . . 13 - Wash St 14 - Texas 15 - Michigan St You don't count so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 a dozen cold ones later, you are right. Go Sooners - the celebrating continues into the night...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 2, 2003 Author Share Posted November 2, 2003 My understanding of K State's remarks, and thus my post, were in reference to poll ranking, not BCS standings. But hey I will take a shot and list my top ... um ... 15 (wink wink Sarge) for the BCS Standings. 1 Oklahoma 2 Fla State 3 USC 4 Ohio State 5 Miami 6 LSU 7 Iowa 8 TCU 9 Michigan 10 Virginia Tech 11 Georgia 12 Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davearm Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Miami's tough to predict but I'm guessing they may slot in ahead of OSU, but behind FSU and USC, in the next BCS. If OSU wins out (that's a BIG if) they'll gain some ground due to improved SOS, but will still need at least 1 (if not 2) losses above them to crack the top 2. Everyone below OSU will be out of the picture, barring a 2001 Nebraska-sized miracle. My personal top 5 would be: OU USC Miami FSU OSU But that's not to say the BCS will look that way on Monday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Poll rankings mean little now it's the BCS that matters and I think Miami will still probably wink be ranked ahead of Ohio State. My BCS prediction: OU USC FSU Miami OSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Kansas State 2000: Poll rankings mean little now it's the BCS that matters and I think Miami will still probably wink be ranked ahead of Ohio State. My BCS prediction: OU USC FSU Miami OSU Yeah, I kinda think the same thing KSU. USC is clearly the #2 IMO. After that things are a bit muddled. If Pitt can beat Tech next week and Miami can win out, coupled with a 'Noles loss, maybe the 'Canes will move back to 3 but that's it. I can forsee a Miami/OSU re-match in a BCS bowl. Maybe the Rose. I just don't see OU or USC loosing from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 lol Ohio State only went up 1 spot in the polls. Miami will definitly be ahead of Ohio State in the BCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 3, 2003 Author Share Posted November 3, 2003 Yeah I'm quite surprised to see LSU & Virginia Tech leapfrog the Buckeyes. My BCS predictions are probably wrong also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leprachaun Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 OSU beat a 2 win penn state team! big f'n deal! they will be out of the top 10 all together after michigan lays the SMACKDOWN on them later this month. thumbs_d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leprachaun Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 the reason florida state only fell 2 is because the media is so far up bowden's ass they can see out his nostrils. FU*K FLORIDA STATE! THEY CAN ROT IN HEL/!!! angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCMB Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Leprachaun??? Would you be a little green Domer, by any chance?!?!? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 If Miami falls below FSU in the BCS, there is something seriously WRONG with the system. How can one team be ranked above the one it lost to if both teams have only one loss? Is it because FSU's loss was to the then-#2-ranked Canes and Canes lost to a lower ranked VaTech? So what?? If head-to-head is not the first tiebreaker, someone needs to take the BCS out back and shoot it right now. And if you pay attention to these boards, you know I'm a big Trojan fan, so its all good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Coffeeman-why can't they jump ahead?It happened in 2000-01'when they jumped ahead of Miami and lost to Oklahoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 3, 2003 Author Share Posted November 3, 2003 There is no such thing as tiebreaker. Head to head sounds simple when there are 2 teams involved, but since there are many more, the BCS uses a point system and gives point for Quality Wins, wins over other top 10 BCS teams. However, if FSU is ahead in the polls and the computer rankings, and they have similar strenght of schedule ratings, the QW deduction is probably not going to override those 2 factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 IF thats the case Va Tech beat Miami Miami beat FSU all 3 have 1 loss Va Tech should be ranked ahead of Miami as well, and why arent they, they just whipped their ass, FSU should be ranked behind Miami as they lost to them Thus the BCS should be 1. OU 2. USC 3. Va Tech 4. Miami 5. FSU 6. LSU But that wont be the case. All 5 of those 1 loss teams are about the same imo. USC has played very well as of late, but Cal beat them, and Cal just inst very good. Id put the 3 ACC schools (next yr anyway) in the order I listed them, and LSU defense is just amazing. After the top 6, no other team deserves consideration for the top 2 spots, unless 5 of the 6 have 2 loses by the time the Sugar arrives. If thats the case, Texas or Michigan could get back into the hunt, but after those 2 no one else has a chance in hell..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Kevin is right about the number of teams going head-to-head: it gets tough when a bunch of the top 10 play each other and different teams keep winning! But, the BCS still sucks compared to a playoff system taking the top 8 or 16 teams and settling it on the field. Right now, maybe some other team "deserves" it more (whatever that means!) than USC, but no other team would give the Sooners D a challenge for 60 minutes like the Trojans. At least it would be good TV - the history, the speed, etc. If Miami or FSU gets in with Berlin or Rix, YAWN...Sooners in a long, boring romp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URLACHERisGOD Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 My Prediction: 1. Oklahoma 2. Muddled Mess 3. Muddled Mess 4. Muddled Mess 5. Muddled Mess 6. - 25. Muddled Mess I'm glad OU has provided you some consistency in all this garbage. #1 in week one...#1 now. You all can fight over who is the 1st loser (2nd place). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted November 3, 2003 Author Share Posted November 3, 2003 Official BCS Week 3: 1 - Oklahoma - 2.24 2 - USC - 7.02 3 - Florida State - 9.52 4 - Miami - 10.25 5 - Ohio State - 11.47 6 - Virginia Tech - 12.47 7 - LSU - 14.92 8 - Michigan - 20.79 9 - TCU - 24.75 10 - Georgia - 25.15 11 - Iowa - 25.6 12 - Texas - 30.59 K State nailed the top 5, congrats!!! dave got 3 and mixed up Miami & FSU. Sarge had 11 of the top 12 listed in his top 12, got 4 right (Ok, USC, VT, Mich), 5 off by 1 (Mia, FSU, Ga, Ia, Ten) and 3 off by 2 (OSU, LSU, TCU). Very good job! I had the right top 12 but in the wrong order. I had only 1 dead on (Oklahoma). I had 9 teams within 1 spot of correct, but I totally misplaced Iowa & Virginia Tech by 4 slots each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 KevinL: K State nailed the top 5, congrats!!! cool_thu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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