Beaumont Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 See here: Buchannon to Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Messiahs Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Score HIGH Raiders, Score HIGH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Phillip is probably going to get a raise in the near future, only $800,000 (i cant believe i would ever say that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Well, the Raiders' DEF couldn't get much worse. So losing a PO'd CB for a 2nd and 3rd round pick may be highly preferable. Because there was a very good chance Buchannon was just going to hold out on the Raiders, anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hmmmm...... I am not sure yet how I feel about this. I think Buchanon is a good young corner, but I really dont like being without a 2nd and a 3rd this year. With the CB depth in this years draft, I think they could have just used the 2nd rounder on one and brought him along under Glenn. But Buchanon is a proven player and by getting him and signing Reggie Swinton, maybe it will give the return game a needed boost. Sorta makes day one of draft a little boring, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Where is Mel Kiper yelling at the Bengals for taking Levi Jones instead of this guy now? Disgruntled player who a team doesn't want anymore or a tough-as-they-come premiere left tackle. F Kiper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 A fine CB crew getting assembled in Texas. The best rookie CB last year and then this. I'd be happy if I were a Texan fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Buchannon is good, but injury prone. I'm not too happy about this one. But the guy was trouble, much like Woodson is. I don't see how deep-sixing him for attitude is smart when they took in Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Great trade for the Texans. Dunta Robinson AND Phillip Buchanon. Nice cornerbacks. I wish the Colts would have made that trade. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizards Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Raiders are definitely IMO looking at all "D" positions at their first 3 picks...particularly when Woodson goes too...Raiders "O" could be very explosive ala Colts..but much like the Colts of last year..can the Raiders stop anyone from scoring this year???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Having watched the Raiders play Denver on numerous occasions, I just don't remember Buchannon sticking out as a great player. As a matter of fact, I don't remember seeing him very much at all. I think he is over hyped. Houston might end up being dissappointed on this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hmmmm...... I am not sure yet how I feel about this. I think Buchanon is a good young corner, but I really dont like being without a 2nd and a 3rd this year. With the CB depth in this years draft, I think they could have just used the 2nd rounder on one and brought him along under Glenn. But Buchanon is a proven player and by getting him and signing Reggie Swinton, maybe it will give the return game a needed boost. Sorta makes day one of draft a little boring, however. 785795[/snapback] Well, the Texans have been saying they needed to improve their secondary. I hope this does the trick. Looks like they have to go OL in the 1st round now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Where is Mel Kiper yelling at the Bengals for taking Levi Jones instead of this guy now? Disgruntled player who a team doesn't want anymore or a tough-as-they-come premiere left tackle. F Kiper. 785798[/snapback] I specifically remember Kiper blasting the team for taking Jones too high. "He shouldn't be picked for another 10 picks," was something like what Kiper said. Well, duh... the Bengals didn't pick for another 30+ picks... he was the guy they had rated highest. That kind of lack of logic is what drives me nuts about Kiper. That, and the complete lack of accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 i don't mind kiper's analysis generally, i actually find him to be pretty insightful sometimes. but he needs to realize he's just a f'n bystander. i doubt there are any teams out there lining up to give the guy the keys to their draft, and that says something. so when he rips into a team like he did when the bungles took jones, he looks like a complete ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Well, the Texans have been saying they needed to improve their secondary. I hope this does the trick. Looks like they have to go OL in the 1st round now. 786196[/snapback] Yeah, they did need to address the secondary, just wasn't sure that this was the way to do it. But after mulling it over for a while, I am OK with this. But I am not so sure about the fact that they have to go OL with their first pick. I wouldnt mind letting the current O-line have one more year to gel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 (edited) Yeah, they did need to address the secondary, just wasn't sure that this was the way to do it. But after mulling it over for a while, I am OK with this. But I am not so sure about the fact that they have to go OL with their first pick. I wouldnt mind letting the current O-line have one more year to gel. 786312[/snapback] Well, I'd prefer 1st round OL pick to a RB pick. And it is at least conceivable that they could still go for a stud WR or a pass rushing DL in the 1st round, as those kinds of picks would add good value to the team. Edited April 20, 2005 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIMP69 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 for what it is worth, as a result of ths trade, at least now kc will be forced to pay more than they were offering to mia for p. surtain (a much better player in IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Just sorta was thinking about this, and realized that this really messes with KC's poker playing with Miami over Surtain... Surtain > Buchannon Surtain's contract < Buchannon's contract Buchannon = 2nd and 3rd Surtain = ??? now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 for what it is worth, as a result of ths trade, at least now kc will be forced to pay more than they were offering to mia for p. surtain (a much better player in IMO). 786360[/snapback] lol...same thought at the same time...'cept you posted faster...lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted April 20, 2005 Author Share Posted April 20, 2005 Dont you have to take Sutain's age versus Buchannon's age into account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIMP69 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Dont you have to take Sutain's age versus Buchannon's age into account? 786746[/snapback] surtain will be 29 at the start of the season and buchannon will be 25 by week 2. age is a good point but surtain has been the more healthy of the 2. thus his career could last longer. PLUS, surtain is just outright better . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hmmmm...... I am not sure yet how I feel about this. I think Buchanon is a good young corner, but I really dont like being without a 2nd and a 3rd this year. With the CB depth in this years draft, I think they could have just used the 2nd rounder on one and brought him along under Glenn. But Buchanon is a proven player and by getting him and signing Reggie Swinton, maybe it will give the return game a needed boost. Sorta makes day one of draft a little boring, however. 785795[/snapback] I'd rather have Glenn mold the extremely talented Phillip instead of a rookie. Phillip has proven talent, the rookies dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Public Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 the texans got the better deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 I'd rather have Glenn mold the extremely talented Phillip instead of a rookie. Phillip has proven talent, the rookies dont 787005[/snapback] Uh, this really doesn't make any sense. Does any rookie have proven NFL talent? I mean they have proven college talent, but not as far as the pros go. That doesnt mean they wont succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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