crispirons Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 jones and parcells lying to the kids face. just not right. http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...25nflnotes.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 "I was smacked in the face." Jerry Jones and/or Bill Parcells kicked the crap outta him, huh? How tough can he be? No wonder he was passed over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsterclaw Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 So, when players they draft high, and pay millions too, don't turn out, aren't the owners etc. slapped in the face? I wouldn't have drafted this crybaby either. I know everyone wants to be a Cowboy, but don't cry. San Diego at least is a nice looking city. :bawling: :bawling: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Suck it up buttercup - it happens to many players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 :crying: Perhaps Dallas was sure Ware would be off the board and in that situation Merriman was the guy. What a whiner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Maybe all the guys who didn't get drafted could chip in and get Merriman a card or a bouquet or something. What a bunch of meanies down there in Dallas! I hope no-one tries teasing Merriman while he's playing...he'd probably tattle to the ref. "Hey ref! Number 78 called me a stinker!" :violin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Gosh, to think I wanted my Cowboys to draft that creampuff. About an hour before the draft I saw him get biitched for an entire hilight real by Heath Miller. He thinks Heath Miller is tough, I'm sure he'll love Jason Whitten. At least Braylon Edwards said he had no problem with what Saban did floating him as the #2 he said something about it increasing other teams' interest in him. That's classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 :violin: Welcome to the NFL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 The Randy Moss syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted April 25, 2005 Author Share Posted April 25, 2005 wasn't the fish i was looking to catch. agreed, you were going to pick me second in kickball and you picked little jimmy. you're not my friend anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhereAreMyRedShoes! Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 He should be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 He should be happy. 794729[/snapback] Your right! Jason Cambell is the one who should be pissed, he's gotta play for the Skins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Your right! Jason Cambell is the one who should be pissed, he's gotta play for the Skins 795052[/snapback] Here we go again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Here we go again. 795088[/snapback] Couldn't help myself JJ....sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szatzu Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dallas better hope it is not the Randy Moss Syndrome...Randy destroys the cowboys and plays ever play against that crappy team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhereAreMyRedShoes! Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Your right! Jason Cambell is the one who should be pissed, he's gotta play for the Skins 795052[/snapback] Do you want me to send you back to The Tailgate for a couple more weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Do you want me to send you back to The Tailgate for a couple more weeks. 795790[/snapback] How did you like the Skins draft?? Just wondering...snicker..teehee..snicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dallas better hope it is not the Randy Moss Syndrome...Randy destroys the cowboys and plays ever play against that crappy team. 795204[/snapback] The Cowboys play the Chargers about once every 6 years or so...I'm sure their real concerned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhereAreMyRedShoes! Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 How did you like the Skins draft?? Just wondering...snicker..teehee..snicker. 795962[/snapback] I liked it. other than not getting Mike Williams with the 9th pick. but we got a good corner so whatever. And I guess Dallas's Offense is so good they didn't need to draft on that side of the ball. snicker..teehee..snicker. Back to the tailgate with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I liked it. other than not getting Mike Williams with the 9th pick. but we got a good corner so whatever. And I guess Dallas's Offense is so good they didn't need to draft on that side of the ball. snicker..teehee..snicker. Back to the tailgate with you. 795976[/snapback] The Skins proved last year that a good defense can keep you in a game. With the draft and the free agent pick ups, the Cowboys D should be a top ten unit, if not higher and with Jones and Witten and a healthy Glenn and Keyshawn, the offense should score enough to win 10 games, which in a weak NFC should get you in the playoffs. As far as the tailgate goes...I can talk football, even if I'm only a Cowboy's fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 My question to this whole thing is this. If it was a “red herring” action by the Cowboys, why would they have invested all the time and money flying him in multiple times and open talks with his agent? All the pre-draft rumors here in San Diego had him a lock to go to the Cowboys. This is the guy that the Bolts really coveted but had pretty much decided to go in a different direction because they were sure he wouldn’t be there. How long did it take the Chargers to make their pick? 2 seconds (yes and exaggeration, but he was their guy for their system)? Who above them were the Cowboys going to fool by doing what they did? Do you think anyone at 1 through 11 would have taken Ware knowing the Cowboys wanted him? Their pick, Ware, was not going to fall to them at 20 so there was no chance that they were trying to sneak him at a later pick. The other thing that makes you wonder is the role of his agent. Merriman’s agent obviously did not expect this either or he would have prepared him for this as a possible outcome. The pick by Dallas was a shock to many people. I am not sure how much, though there is some, ego involved. There was clearly more contact with him than what is considered usual. I can see how the young man feels slighted and is irritated by what happened. What will determine if he is just another spoiled athlete or not will be how he handles the situation from now on. If this remains an issue throughout his career, yeah, he is a bonehead and it will just get boring. If he drops it and moves on with his career and excels while being a good character guy (which AJ Smith says he is), well then there may be some merit to his initial irritation. If I was told, “You are my guy!” and you start to plan, expect and get excited about that, and then suddenly “they” choose someone else, I would be a little POed too. Like I said, I think the criticism I see in some of these posts will be warranted if this issue is kept alive by him. Until then, I think there is a little too much “piling on” (when is the last time you’ve seen that one called?), and we need to give the kid a break over some comments made to the local media of the team that enthusiastically drafted him. I am sure ther will be some extra motivation in week one and this will resurface in the press for this week one nationally telivised game. At the very least, it could make for some interesting Bulliten board material. He has expressed nothing but excitement and appreciation about coming to San Diego and has already made plans to start becoming a part of this community. I can also see how his self-assuredness will irritate other people. Remember, it isn’t bragging if you can back it up. I hope, as a Charger fan, he can back up his self-confidence, but only time will tell. If he can’t, but the mouth keeps going, he won’t be in San Diego very long. AJ Smith doesn’t put up with that type of element. That is why Wiley was playing end for the Cowboys. I guess they don’t mind all mouth and no show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 (edited) Dallas better hope it is not the Randy Moss Syndrome...Randy destroys the cowboys and plays ever play against that crappy team. 795204[/snapback] Cowboys and Chargers, season opener, in San Diego. And after the Cowboys ruin the Charger's season opener, it's off to Oakland a few weeks later to kick Moss and the Raiders a$$. I get to be there for all the Cowboy's West Coast games this year. San Diego San Francisco Oakland Seattle Edited April 28, 2005 by JoJoTheWebToedBoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimD Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Cowboys and Chargers, season opener, in San Diego. And after the Cowboys ruin the Charger's season opener, it's off to Oakland a few weeks later to kick Moss and the Raiders a$$. I get to be there for all the Cowboy's West Coast games this year. San Diego San Francisco Oakland Seattle 797185[/snapback] Good luck with that my friend. I hope you don't return home from those games drunk and depressed. I'd say three of those games you might just be doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 (edited) My question to this whole thing is this. If it was a “red herring” action by the Cowboys, why would they have invested all the time and money flying him in multiple times and open talks with his agent? All the pre-draft rumors here in San Diego had him a lock to go to the Cowboys. This is the guy that the Bolts really coveted but had pretty much decided to go in a different direction because they were sure he wouldn’t be there. How long did it take the Chargers to make their pick? 2 seconds (yes and exaggeration, but he was their guy for their system)? Who above them were the Cowboys going to fool by doing what they did? Do you think anyone at 1 through 11 would have taken Ware knowing the Cowboys wanted him? Their pick, Ware, was not going to fall to them at 20 so there was no chance that they were trying to sneak him at a later pick. The other thing that makes you wonder is the role of his agent. Merriman’s agent obviously did not expect this either or he would have prepared him for this as a possible outcome. The pick by Dallas was a shock to many people. I am not sure how much, though there is some, ego involved. There was clearly more contact with him than what is considered usual. I can see how the young man feels slighted and is irritated by what happened. What will determine if he is just another spoiled athlete or not will be how he handles the situation from now on. If this remains an issue throughout his career, yeah, he is a bonehead and it will just get boring. If he drops it and moves on with his career and excels while being a good character guy (which AJ Smith says he is), well then there may be some merit to his initial irritation. If I was told, “You are my guy!” and you start to plan, expect and get excited about that, and then suddenly “they” choose someone else, I would be a little POed too. Like I said, I think the criticism I see in some of these posts will be warranted if this issue is kept alive by him. Until then, I think there is a little too much “piling on” (when is the last time you’ve seen that one called?), and we need to give the kid a break over some comments made to the local media of the team that enthusiastically drafted him. I am sure ther will be some extra motivation in week one and this will resurface in the press for this week one nationally telivised game. At the very least, it could make for some interesting Bulliten board material. He has expressed nothing but excitement and appreciation about coming to San Diego and has already made plans to start becoming a part of this community. I can also see how his self-assuredness will irritate other people. Remember, it isn’t bragging if you can back it up. I hope, as a Charger fan, he can back up his self-confidence, but only time will tell. If he can’t, but the mouth keeps going, he won’t be in San Diego very long. AJ Smith doesn’t put up with that type of element. That is why Wiley was playing end for the Cowboys. I guess they don’t mind all mouth and no show. 796039[/snapback] Wiley hadnt been good since his days in Buffalo, and SD kept him around several yrs. Dallas thought he just wanted out of that hell hole and gave him a shot. 1 yr and booted his arse to the curb. TB was considering Ware at 1.5, and even Cleveland at 1.3 from what I read if Edwards went to Miami, and Chicago took Cadillac. The point is other teams didnt try and get in front of Dallas to get Ware thinking they were targeting him, more than the teams in front of them actually taking him. I also heard Houston really wanted Ware and was considering trading up to take him, but never thought Dallas was that hot on him, so they didnt. Instead they ended up trading down when Ware was gone. Dallas did what every team does except Washington who actually leaks who they really want to take. This is a non story imo, and if hes happy in SD, good for him. But he wasnt wanted in Dallas, and Dallas would have taken Spears over him if Ware was gone at 1.11 from what JJ and Parcells are saying. So there was really little chance they really had much interest in Merriman at all. but nobody jumped in front of them to get the guy Dallas really wanted, and Spears fell to them at 1.20. So overall a very succesful draft in Dallas. Edited April 28, 2005 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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