BigTen Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Am I crazy for thinking about J. Lewis at #2? I do not know why but I feel that he will have a great year. I have thought about Alexander but for some reason I am shying away from him but I do not know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
780 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Am I crazy for thinking about J. Lewis at #2? I do not know why but I feel that he will have a great year. I have thought about Alexander but for some reason I am shying away from him but I do not know why. 848219[/snapback] He and the Ravens are getting the 14th-easiest schedule to run on, middle of the pack. The money playoff weeks come against the Texans, Packers, and Vikings, pretty good. He’s yet another guy you’ll be able to get late in the first round, maybe even in the second, who is capable of producing like a top-5 pick overall. Go with your gut feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 (edited) Well, you sort of have to rank him highly.848212[/snapback] Even with Larry Johnson waiting in the wings? I see diminished carries even IF Priest can stay healthy all year. Edited June 21, 2005 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
780 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I cannot get over how many people have Priest Holmes rated so high. No thanks. I'll pass. 848200[/snapback] He's a complete back, he’s not only the best goal-line back in the league, but he’s also an excellent receiver. And to top it all off, he’s probably the hardest working player in the league. You can grab Johnson as protection if you want 25+ TDs, and who doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 He's a complete back, he’s not only the best goal-line back in the league, but he’s also an excellent receiver. And to top it all off, he’s probably the hardest working player in the league. You can grab Johnson as protection if you want 25+ TDs, and who doesn’t. 848247[/snapback] Even before he got hurt, he was well off his pace for receptions last year. In 8 games he only had 19 catches. Plus with his durability issues, and the fact there is a younger back chomping at the bit to take his job, I don't see Holmes as a slam dunk this year. You make it sound like you could scoop up Johnson in the fifteenth round. That's not gonna happen this year. In my opinion, you have to invest another early pick on Johnson if you are going to pick up Holmes. I just don't see rating him over Alexander, Edge, or even McGahee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
780 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Even before he got hurt, he was well off his pace for receptions last year. In 8 games he only had 19 catches. Plus with his durability issues, and the fact there is a younger back chomping at the bit to take his job, I don't see Holmes as a slam dunk this year. You make it sound like you could scoop up Johnson in the fifteenth round. That's not gonna happen this year. In my opinion, you have to invest another early pick on Johnson if you are going to pick up Holmes. I just don't see rating him over Alexander, Edge, or even McGahee. 848294[/snapback] He had 196 carries in eight games.The Chiefs worked him too much last year. He can still play at a very high level. They usually like to feature only one guy, so Holmes’ workload could be close to what it’s been in the past. The reward is still worth the risk. I think you could pick up Johnson in the 7th or 8th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Exactly. The Chiefs worked him too much last year. So what do you think they'll do this year with a proven young healthy back ready to go? I'm not predicting a 50/50 split on carries, but Johnson WILL play more than everyone is thinking right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
780 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Exactly. The Chiefs worked him too much last year. So what do you think they'll do this year with a proven young healthy back ready to go? I'm not predicting a 50/50 split on carries, but Johnson WILL play more than everyone is thinking right now. 848313[/snapback] I don't think it will be a 50/50 spilt either but there is no way Johnson gets the touchdowns. I think holmes will get his 25+. There is only 2 or 3 players capable of doing that. I wouldn’t argue with taking Holmes at number 2 overall over Alexander, but I would argue with anyone who let Holmes slip lower than number 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playsccr Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 780, with 6points for passing tds, and the 3rd pick. i know alexander and LT are gone do you take holmes or manning>?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeezNuts Posted June 21, 2005 Author Share Posted June 21, 2005 Would someone send Mr. Playsccr to the right frick'in forum? Better yet if it gets him out of here... Hey soccer boy, if you are getting 6pts. per passing TD then yes Manning goes much higher, top 10? Definately, Top 5? Probably, Top 3? Maybe... no one knows for sure, we can all throw out our opinion but you need to make the final decision now get on it. As far as everyone else, this is the best RB conversation I've seen yet, lots of angles and stats... let me ask this; should any of these guys; Corey Dillon Domanick Davis Julius Jones Ahman Green Tiki Barber Kevin Jones Go above any of these guys in a draft, regardless of scoring? LaDainian Tomlinson Shaun Alexander Priest Holmes Edgerrin James Deuce McAllister Willis McGahee Jamal Lewis Clinton Portis Yes or No, if "Yes" who? Just curious to see results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) Definitely at least Dillon and Green over Portis. Probably Davis and Tiki too. I just don't like Washington fantasy-wise at all this year. Smallish receivers with inexperienced QB's makes me think teams will be playing the run. Portis might get squished this year. I want to see the Jones' in the pre-season again. And like I said, I like several guys over Priest Holmes this year. . . Edited June 21, 2005 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hapicamp Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Would someone send Mr. Playsccr to the right frick'in forum? Better yet if it gets him out of here... Hey soccer boy, if you are getting 6pts. per passing TD then yes Manning goes much higher, top 10? Definately, Top 5? Probably, Top 3? Maybe... no one knows for sure, we can all throw out our opinion but you need to make the final decision now get on it. As far as everyone else, this is the best RB conversation I've seen yet, lots of angles and stats... let me ask this; should any of these guys; Corey Dillon Domanick Davis Julius Jones Ahman Green Tiki Barber Kevin Jones Go above any of these guys in a draft, regardless of scoring? LaDainian Tomlinson Shaun Alexander Priest Holmes Edgerrin James Deuce McAllister Willis McGahee Jamal Lewis Clinton Portis Yes or No, if "Yes" who? Just curious to see results. 848372[/snapback] J.Jones over Portis: Skins far behind Dallas in team cohesion, better D better for RB and Jones youth (with sufficient experience) gives him the edge for me. I'm also waiting to see where he and McGahee land on my list at this point, so I would have to put a question mark next to McGahee today. Also good question/topic Dez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I take Peyton or Moss if I feel there is a dropoff b/n the 8th and 9th back. Take the sure thing. I feel much better about gambling on a RB with my 3rd rounder than gambling on one with my 1st. Heck, I take Peyton in the top 3 anyhow so my opinion may not be incredibly relevant to some of you. I just love consistent players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcoach Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) Would someone send Mr. Playsccr to the right frick'in forum? Better yet if it gets him out of here... Hey soccer boy, if you are getting 6pts. per passing TD then yes Manning goes much higher, top 10? Definately, Top 5? Probably, Top 3? Maybe... no one knows for sure, we can all throw out our opinion but you need to make the final decision now get on it. As far as everyone else, this is the best RB conversation I've seen yet, lots of angles and stats... let me ask this; should any of these guys; Corey Dillon Domanick Davis Julius Jones Ahman Green Tiki Barber Kevin Jones Go above any of these guys in a draft, regardless of scoring? LaDainian Tomlinson Shaun Alexander Priest Holmes Edgerrin James Deuce McAllister Willis McGahee Jamal Lewis Clinton Portis Yes or No, if "Yes" who? Just curious to see results. 848372[/snapback] I think if you're getting points for rec. yes. If it's a keeper definitely. I like DD a lot. He showed he could play hurt last year and he's a monster in the passing game. I know they have some decent backs behind him and they drafted Morency but, he's a stud and will only get better. I like Davis before McAllister and Portis. If it's a keeper maybe before Holmes. Davis is involved in the whole game, when they're behind big he rarely comes out because he's so involved in the passing game. Edited June 21, 2005 by jgcoach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I am just praying that Dillon falls to the second round this year. I know NE likes to throw in the red zone but Dillon was a rock for my team all year last year. Always good for 120/1-2 and I bet they rely on him even more heavily this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Do some of you guys feel that Willis is going to be this years Barlow? 848115[/snapback] Yes. So far, out of all the RBs who had great partial seasons last year (e.g. KJones, JJones) I think Willis wins the 2005 A-Train/Willie Green/Barlow "overvalued draft day RB" award. Losman scares me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I'm still not completely sold on Lewis. He seemed so out of shape last year and was so average that I've really become disappointed in him. It seems, however, that many huddler's feel that he will have a bounce back year. I'm starting to lean toward him having a better season, but still not sure. I'd like to seem him run in preseason as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime9287 Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Why is everyone completely forgetting about Ahman Green and Corey Dillon? I would take both of them over Willis McGahee and Kevin Jones. Just my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoosBandits Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 *smiling at David's clever and wise comment* Rate them based on their possible scoring ability, then draft safe, especially in the critcal first round. It can help you or kill you. Any player can go down on any play, but always look at the odds. Once you draft safely in the first few rounds, (talking redrafter leagues) you can then start taking what I call potential reaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 (edited) Willis scares me as well. He's got the talent and he could put up monster #'s over the course of the season....unless: Opposing defenses key on him and make JP beat em through the air. The loss of Jonas Jennings gets him killed. Too many carries and abuse early leads to a big weardown in the second half. I'd rather spend my first rounder on bit more of a guarantee. Edited June 22, 2005 by Swampnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Lewis could also easilly be in my top five. With a projected improvement in the passing game, he should get fewer carries, but rarely face 8 in the box. Great upside. 847066[/snapback] Agreed. I am not a Baltimore fan by any stretch, but after a year of healing up and training (in the pokey and out) Lewis could be primed for another strong campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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