Travis Henry

[hooknladder]

NFL network says Travel has been talking to the Seahawks...

- things that make you go Hmmm.

[Seahawks21]

ya know, I've heard a couple rumors here, but Mr. Clayton repeatedly says these are at most speculatory rumors. This deal is strictly contingent on somebody wanting Shaun Alexander. If they Seahawks acquire Henry before unloading Alexander, they would lose all bargaining power and would be able to get nothing in return for Shaun. All this rumor tells me is that negotiations for a long term contract aren't going well so the Hawks may again be interested in moving him, and are checking on the availability of Henry to cover their butts just in case.

[Ruffian]

ya know, I've heard a couple rumors here, but Mr. Clayton repeatedly says these are at most speculatory rumors.  This deal is strictly contingent on somebody wanting Shaun Alexander.  If they Seahawks acquire Henry before unloading Alexander, they would lose all bargaining power and would be able to get nothing in return for Shaun.  All this rumor tells me is that negotiations for a long term contract aren't going well so the Hawks may again be interested in moving him, and are checking on the availability of Henry to cover their butts just in case.

 

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Wow...I can't believe that Seattle would let Alexander walk. That is not a good sign IMO.

[hooknladder]

It goes without saying all this is rumor and speculation. I would'nt be surprised if Seattle entertained talks with Travel just to turn up the heat on Alexander.

[budlitebrad]

Alexander might as well just sign the tender at this rate. He's getting older and no team wants to sign a long term deal this late in his career unless he changes his name to LT3.

[Seahawks21]

The thing a lot of people further away from the situation don't notice is that Alexander has fallen totally out of favor with front office, coaches and players, and even more so with Seahawk fans. If he signs a long term deal in Seattle it will be because the Seahawks had no other viable options. I'm usually not a huge proponent of the statement that "any back could do that well in this system", but in this case I believe it holds water. Not to say that Maurice Morris could fill Shaun's shoes, but I sincerely believe that Henry could run for 2-300 more yards than Shaun.

 

Shaun is both a whiner and a "me-first" guy, and the Hawks officials and fans want this guy out of town badly, just can't find any takers.

[muck]

Really? He's 'completely out of favor' in Seattle?

 

Interesting...

[Last Plane Out]

The thing a lot of people further away from the situation don't notice is that Alexander has fallen totally out of favor with front office, coaches and players, and even more so with Seahawk fans.  If he signs a long term deal in Seattle it will be because the Seahawks had no other viable options.  I'm usually not a huge proponent of the statement that "any back could do that well in this system", but in this case I believe it holds water.  Not to say that Maurice Morris could fill Shaun's shoes, but I sincerely believe that Henry could run for 2-300 more yards than Shaun.

 

Shaun is both a whiner and a "me-first" guy, and the Hawks officials and fans want this guy out of town badly, just can't find any takers.

 

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you wonder why they didn't draft a RB

[yellowdog]

Mortenson reported on ESPNradio, just minutes ago, that a Henry to Tennessee deal could be announced as early as today. He said that Jacksonville may still be in the running though. He didn't mention Seattle.

Edited July 15, 2005 by yellowdog

[Duchess Jack]

I still find myself really really baffled by this move

[Jackass]

He did go to the u of tennessee

[1stimer]

Alexander might as well just sign the tender at this rate. He's getting older and no team wants to sign a long term deal this late in his career unless he changes his name to LT3.

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IMO the Brownies could use him for maybe three years or so. That way they could trade off some of the mediocre/underperforming RB's they have and would have a decent running threat. Don't think that is very likely but he would be a heck of a better options than either Droughns or Suggs.

[spain]

Looks like its the Jags:

 

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stor..._19246509.shtml

 

Jaguars, Henry are close

 

 

Team reports encouraging news on Taylor, but trade talks still heat up for Buffalo back.

 

 

By BART HUBBUCH, The Times-Union

 

 

Acknowledging their concerns about Fred Taylor's availability this season, the Jaguars are close to completing a long-discussed trade for Buffalo Bills running back Travis Henry.

 

 

Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio said Thursday in a statement released by the team that a deal for Henry, a Pro Bowl selection in 2003, could be completed "in the next few days or week."

 

"The fact that we have an opportunity to acquire a running back of this kind of talent is something we have to look at so we're looking at it,'' Del Rio said in the statement. "This may or may not happen, but we're protecting our interests, and any time we think we can acquire somebody who can help us, we're going to do that."

 

The Jaguars are pursuing Henry, who at 26 is nearly three years younger than Taylor, despite what Del Rio described as an encouraging workout by Taylor earlier this week.

 

Taylor has been sidelined all offseason by surgery in January to repair two ligaments in his left knee that were damaged in the Jaguars' Dec. 19 victory at Green Bay, an injury that caused him to miss the final two games.

 

Taylor's workout prompted Del Rio to say the eight-year veteran would participate in one practice per day for at least the first week of training camp, which begins Friday, July 29. Taylor will be held out of the team's Aug. 5 intrasquad scrimmage, but Del Rio said the team hopes Taylor can participate in practices in pads the week leading up to the preseason opener on Saturday, Aug. 13 at home against Miami.

 

 

Henry

 

 

"We'll open camp with Fred, but we'll practice him once a day and it'll be in shorts," Del Rio said in the statement. "We'll monitor him during that first week. We want to see his strength continue to improve."

 

Taylor shrugged off questions about his status in an interview last week.

 

"I'm going to be fine," he said. "You just wait and see. I'm going to be just fine."

 

The 5-foot-9, 215-pound Henry, who is from Frostproof and now lives in Orlando, has rushed for 3,849 yards (with a 4.0-yard average) and 27 touchdowns in four seasons. He is being shopped by the Bills after losing his starting job to Willis McGahee last season. Henry demanded a trade because he didn't want to be McGahee's backup.

 

The Jaguars have discussed a trade for Henry for much of the offseason, showing interest in him along with Tennessee and Seattle. The stumbling blocks to a deal have been compensation to the Bills and the necessity of signing Henry to a contract extension.

 

The Bills are holding out for at least a third-round draft pick, and Henry can become a free agent next winter without an extension because he is in the final year of his contract at a cost of $1.25 million. Neither the Bills nor the Jaguars would comment Thursday on possible compensation for Henry, although a Buffalo radio station reported it could be a third-round pick that improves to a second-round choice if Henry reaches certain statistical benchmarks.

 

Tennessee and Seattle are still in contention, but Henry's agent said Thursday that he is further along with the Jaguars on an extension than with any other team.

 

"We've had really positive dialogue with Jacksonville in the past week," agent Hadley Engelhard said. "Considering he's from that part of Florida, Travis is very excited about the prospect of coming to Jacksonville."

 

Henry, a second-round pick from Tennessee in 2001, rushed for a career-low 326 yards without a touchdown last season while battling injuries. He ran for at least 1,300 yards in each of the previous two seasons, although the Bills went 14-18 in that span and didn't make the playoffs either year.

 

The Jaguars, who also signed fifth-round draft pick Gerald Sensabaugh on Thursday, will have a crowded offensive backfield if Henry arrives.

 

Del Rio said the Henry trade discussions are not a reflection on the team's feelings about backup running backs LaBrandon Toefield, Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala or rookie Alvin Pearman.

 

"We like all of our guys,'' Del Rio said in the team's statement. "We think LaBrandon Toefield can be a very good player. The thing that makes Henry attractive is he's proved he can do it.''

 

Taylor said last week that he would welcome Henry's arrival as long as Henry realizes the Jaguars "are my team.''

 

"I'm all for bringing him in, because that's just going to make us better,'' Taylor said. "But this is my team.''

[The Vatican Hitsquad]

I bet he ends up in Ten to fill in for the criple and the thug they are stuck with.

[Duchess Jack]

I bet he ends up in Ten to fill in for the criple and the thug they are stuck with.

 

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....but the crips are thugs

[Vote Quimby2]

Seahawks21, heard Boulware looked pretty good yesterday. I think he would be a great pick up. He's also one of those quality character guys that Ruskell is so big on and he knows how to win.

[gspot]

I still find myself really really baffled by this move

 

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Why? Makes sense to me. Henry is younger and would come at a substantial discount to Alexander, who is demanding a bank breaking deal.

 

IMO, signing Henry to a 3 year deal, saving money, and letting Alexander walk would be a good move. At 29 years of age, Alexander is no spring chicken and he would still demand big $$$ in a market with a glut of RBs.

[Fatman]

ESPN Insider confirming what's been said here:

 

Bills finally close to Henry trade

<Jul. 15> After months of shopping, the Buffalo Bills finally appear close to dealing unhappy their running back.

Reports in the Buffalo News and Florida Times Union cite Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio as saying a trade for Henry is imminent. However, ESPN's Chris Mortensen is hearing the Tennessee Titans the most likely partner, with Jacksonville a close second.

 

Mortensen said on ESPN Radio on Friday that while Henry might prefer to go to Jacksonville, which reportedly could offer him a better contract extension, the Bills are focusing their attention on the Titans' offer.

 

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli has reported renewed interest from Seattle in acquiring Henry, but the Seahawks refused to confirm that to the Seattle Times.

[Duchess Jack]

Why?   Makes sense to me.  Henry is younger and would come at a substantial discount to Alexander, who is demanding a bank breaking deal.

 

IMO, signing Henry to a 3 year deal, saving money, and letting Alexander walk would be a good move.  At 29 years of age, Alexander is no spring chicken and he would still demand big $$$ in a market with a glut of RBs.

 

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Henry wants big money.

 

The Titans gutted their team for cap reasons.

 

They have many needs. A rb is not one of them.

 

Sure Brown is injury prone and it is important to have depth behind him, but this team is not making a run for it. Their needs lie elsewhere.

 

But then, my confusion was in relation to the Titans.

 

I understand and dig his going to the Hawks.

Edited July 15, 2005 by Duchess Jack

[gspot]

Henry wants big money. 

 

The Titans gutted their team for cap reasons. 

 

They have many needs.  A rb is not one of them.

 

Sure Brown is injury prone and it is important to have depth behind him, but this team is not making a run for it.  Their needs like elsewhere. 

 

But then, my confusion was in relation to the Titans. 

 

I understand and dig his going to the Hawks.

 

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Ah! My bad, sorry. I agree on your take on the Titans. Giving up a 3rd rounder for a guy with 3-4 good years left seems counterproductive at this point.

[Piranha]

Personally, I'd be surprised if he didn't end up in Jacksonville.

[Duchess Jack]

I was reading something interesting this morning that suggested that backs drafted in the second or third round have a much better chance of making big money because they are likely to hit FA earlier. First round backs have been signing 5-6 year contracts and when they expire they are around 28 and nobody wants them, whereas backs drafted later hit FA at a much younger age.

 

I thought it interesting.

[Fatman]

I was reading something interesting this morning that suggested that backs drafted in the second or third round have a much better chance of making big money because they are likely to hit FA earlier.  First round backs have been signing 5-6 year contracts and when they expire they are around 28 and nobody wants them, whereas backs drafted later hit FA at a much younger age. 

 

I thought it interesting.

 

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I read the same thing - it's the feature article right now on the NFL page of ESPN.com and is indeed an interesting read.

 

One other note in it is that Brown, Williams, and Benson will all be 23 this year and will all be 28-29 when their rookie deals expire, leaving them with the same problem. A good read.

[gspot]

I read the same thing - it's the feature article right now on the NFL page of ESPN.com and is indeed an interesting read.

 

One other note in it is that Brown, Williams, and Benson will all be 23 this year and will all be 28-29 when their rookie deals expire, leaving them with the same problem.  A good read.

 

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If things continue as they are assuming they outplace their deal, they will mostly hold-out after hiring Rosenhaus!

[Big Ernie McCracken]

 

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stor..._19246509.shtml