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I missed the first half hour of a draft last year,and found out I was still stuck on autodraft for the next 2 rounds as I didn't know how to turn it off in CBS Sportsline. I ended up finishing as runner-up, my best finish in that league ever.

 

I do think that the story in the first post of this thread is fabricated. We see a lot of first time posters that come up with ridiculous stories just to get everyone riled up.

 

 

Even better when you end up looking like a fool who lost at FF to an autodraft!

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Since when does there have to be a specific rule violation in order to boot a guy from a league? If the majority of the league thinks he's a DB, then kick him out for being a DB. Autodrafting is just one small piece of evidence supporting his DB status.

 

Wow really?

 

We've never kickd an owner out in 20+ years and generally do not have much turnover. If some owner wins 5 years in a row, and everybody hates that, and think he's a DB you can just kick him out if the other owners all agere.

 

What other evidence do we have that he was a DB? Sounds like his league mates are being DBs, did they complain after the draft, or only once they lost to Mr. Auto Drafter?

 

I dont know why so many of you are so bemused?

 

I assume most of you are in multiple leagues....would you want your favorite, most expensive league that you're in with all your close friends that you all desperately want to win have a bunch of auto drafters in it?

 

The fact that he beat them all and won the league is just embarrassing but isn't a factor in my eyes. It's that he didn't take the league seriously, if you will.

 

Actually it is the MAIN FACTOR in all this, without him winning they don't say honda. The rest of the owners would have happily took Mr. Auto Drafter's money. But since he won, he's being made out to be some kind of villian. They obviously don't get just how bad they are as FF players to lose to him.

 

A lot of guys in our league don't take it as seriously as others. Some bring magazines and draft from that. Others print current web cheat sheets and still others do tons of research and create their own rankings and such. Should we kick out the guy who is drafting from a magazine because he doesn't take it as seriously? Or those guys who hardly make any roster moves or trades?

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Wow really?

 

We've never kickd an owner out in 20+ years and generally do not have much turnover. If some owner wins 5 years in a row, and everybody hates that, and think he's a DB you can just kick him out if the other owners all agere.

 

What other evidence do we have that he was a DB? Sounds like his league mates are being DBs, did they complain after the draft, or only once they lost to Mr. Auto Drafter?

 

 

Actually it is the MAIN FACTOR in all this, without him winning they don't say honda. The rest of the owners would have happily took Mr. Auto Drafter's money. But since he won, he's being made out to be some kind of villian. They obviously don't get just how bad they are as FF players to lose to him.

 

A lot of guys in our league don't take it as seriously as others. Some bring magazines and draft from that. Others print current web cheat sheets and still others do tons of research and create their own rankings and such. Should we kick out the guy who is drafting from a magazine because he doesn't take it as seriously? Or those guys who hardly make any roster moves or trades?

 

 

No because in those instances the player is still making the choices.

 

Completely different and about 10,000 different red herrings have been used in this thread now, yours is just the latest.

 

For me, and if you read it, for the OP, they are pissed he wasn't on the same "wavelength" aas them if you will and didn't take it seriously. They are also pissed that he doesn't understand why they're pissed. See the whole "...well you didn't tell me I couldn't..."argument...Okay, what are you four? If I have to write every rule in here that you CANNOT do, we'd be listing them forever.

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No because in those instances the player is still making the choices.

 

Completely different and about 10,000 different red herrings have been used in this thread now, yours is just the latest.

 

For me, and if you read it, for the OP, they are pissed he wasn't on the same "wavelength" aas them if you will and didn't take it seriously. They are also pissed that he doesn't understand why they're pissed. See the whole "...well you didn't tell me I couldn't..."argument...Okay, what are you four? If I have to write every rule in here that you CANNOT do, we'd be listing them forever.

 

 

If it was such an issue, it should have been addressed right after the draft. Not after the season. No one would put up a fuss if he finished last and I highly doubt the league would have refunded his money if that were the case.

 

You can't base your reaction on the results, it must be based on the actions. It's too late to do anything this year.

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If it was such an issue, it should have been addressed right after the draft. Not after the season. No one would put up a fuss if he finished last and I highly doubt the league would have refunded his money if that were the case.

 

You can't base your reaction on the results, it must be based on the actions. It's too late to do anything this year.

 

 

This is the general gist of a few posts in here, mine included. They were more than happy taking his entry fee and giving him his auto-draft team as they assumed he'd be a basement dweller.

 

If that isn't the sort of person they want in the league then boot him out for this year but you can't take his title away because of a rule you made up months after the season finished

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No because in those instances the player is still making the choices.

 

 

 

In the OP, it is pretty clearly stated that the drafted made the conscious decision that he wanted to be autodrafted. He did log in per the OP, and did choose to set his team to autodraft. So in this case as well the player made the conscious (or semi-conscious depending on the level of hangover) decision that he would be better served letting the autodraft pick a team rather than him picking the team,

 

If it was such an issue, it should have been addressed right after the draft. Not after the season. No one would put up a fuss if he finished last and I highly doubt the league would have refunded his money if that were the case.

 

You can't base your reaction on the results, it must be based on the actions. It's too late to do anything this year.

 

 

This is the point exactly - if certainly seems that if the autodrafted team did not do well, there would be no issue. Since it did, people are complaining. They all had the chance to draft those players but chose not to... and there is no way they know if this owner would/would not have drafted those players.

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No because in those instances the player is still making the choices.

 

Completely different and about 10,000 different red herrings have been used in this thread now, yours is just the latest.

 

For me, and if you read it, for the OP, they are pissed he wasn't on the same "wavelength" aas them if you will and didn't take it seriously. They are also pissed that he doesn't understand why they're pissed. See the whole "...well you didn't tell me I couldn't..."argument...Okay, what are you four? If I have to write every rule in here that you CANNOT do, we'd be listing them forever.

 

These a reason all laws are written. There is a reason there are contracts. There is a reason sports leagues have written rules. Your statement seems a bit off...

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No because in those instances the player is still making the choices.

 

Completely different and about 10,000 different red herrings have been used in this thread now, yours is just the latest.

 

For me, and if you read it, for the OP, they are pissed he wasn't on the same "wavelength" aas them if you will and didn't take it seriously. They are also pissed that he doesn't understand why they're pissed. See the whole "...well you didn't tell me I couldn't..."argument...Okay, what are you four? If I have to write every rule in here that you CANNOT do, we'd be listing them forever.

 

 

How about one that simply states "Team owners must be present at the draft or in the draft if done online. Auto drafting is not allowed."

 

But to take away a keeper or draft picks or something like that for this season, with no rules or precedent for it, is bush league. If I were the guy who auto drafted i wouldn't want to be back in the league with such a group of whiny pants cry babies. I truly think this league is made up of 12 year olds. Grow up and beat him if you don't like him. Or pass a rule so he can't auto draft again. Nothing should be done retroactively.

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If it was such an issue, it should have been addressed right after the draft. Not after the season. No one would put up a fuss if he finished last and I highly doubt the league would have refunded his money if that were the case.

 

You can't base your reaction on the results, it must be based on the actions. It's too late to do anything this year.

 

 

I've never anywhere indicated that I thought his title should be taken away. After the fact punishment is no good here.

 

If it was such an issue, it should have been addressed right after the draft

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What would they have done then? Redraft? That would never happen and wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't have yielded any different results to him bringing it up now. A decision has to be made.

 

In fact, I don't think anybody that has been taken seriously in here has said they should rescind his title. I took it more as, do we see it as bush league like he did, and what should he do about it?

 

The strong majority say, can't do anything about it now but it was gay.

 

I think we're all more or less on the same page.

 

If I was dealilng with this in my league, I would say fine whatever you darshbag. THIS YEAR in the league, everybody has to draft for themselves. If he doesn't like it, there's the door.

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If it was such an issue, it should have been addressed right after the draft

^^^

 

What would they have done then? Redraft? That would never happen and wouldn't be fair. It also wouldn't have yielded any different results to him bringing it up now. A decision has to be made.

 

 

 

The commish could have and should have paused the draft then if it was an issue at that time, with all owners online they could have resolved the issue there and then, boot him, keep him, tell him he has to actually take it off autodraft and pick it himself, but the draft could have been paused and dealt with at that time, instead they let it go and accepted the results of his actions till he won.

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I missed the first half hour of a draft last year,and found out I was still stuck on autodraft for the next 2 rounds as I didn't know how to turn it off in CBS Sportsline. I ended up finishing as runner-up, my best finish in that league ever.

 

I do think that the story in the first post of this thread is fabricated. We see a lot of first time posters that come up with ridiculous stories just to get everyone riled up.

 

 

that was my first thought. I think you've all been had.

 

ETA: and the OP needs a girlfriend... or some better porn sites.

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In the league I run its mandatory for everyone to draft so I do agree with u ..you have every right to be mad..in both my leagues everyone has to draft and espiacally when playing for money. I just want to know why you wouldnt want to draft your own team in the first place, than obviously you shouldn't be playing if u dont..i talk to whole league and figure out a date for the draft.so tell him if u dont pick your own team this year than peace him out

 

 

I agree with the part of this that says " I just want to know why you wouldn't want to draft your own team" but this guy didn't...

 

You & your league-mates invited this guy in the league for a reason even though he did this last year. Make it a rule you have to pick your team or find someone to draft for you and if he does it again take a league vote and kick him out if that's the punishment. He shoulde not be punished this year at all though. The draft is important but only part of winning a fantasy league...

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