did this really happen?

Yeah, I couldn't believe it either.

Next year we should change our FG scoring to also be fractional...Creaper would have won, but I still think it's the right thing to do.

3pts for any FG <= 30 yds
.1 pt for every yard > 30

That makes a 48 yarder worth 4.8 versus 4.

Wow, was out of town and just saw the result.

I had pretty much given up on this week, forgot about Graham.

As unlikely as a tie is, I agree that if we change the kicker points, it should help next year.

What's the aversion to a tie? This is going to happen once every ten blue moons

this would not prevent ties from happening.

I would add another fractional scoring player, which decreases the odds of a tie occurring.

uhh, no, not really. the (remote) odds of two teams coming up with the same 4-5 digit decimal score would still be virtually, if not exactly, the same. i'm not going to spend 20 minutes with a calculator to prove it, but trust me, it wouldn't reduce odds of ties like this occurring.

Sorry, Az, but have to disagree. If we had this rule in place before, we would still not have a tie. Without the rule, we have one. Doesn't that alone prove the odds are less?


Regardless of the tie, I still think the scoring change is the right thing to do and follows the same logic as the argument to go to decimal scoring for the other positions.

If an RB gets 9 yards, they should be rewarded for that instead of not getting a point because of the extra 1 (or 1/2) yard that they didn't get.

If a PK kicks a 39 yard FG, they should be rewarded for that instead of not getting another point because of the extra 1 (or 1/2) yard they didn't get.

3.9 points versus 3 is a significant change and just makes sense.

While I fully understand the logic it would be a pain in the ass to set up on MFL and anyway, I ask again, what is with the pathological hatred of ties?

no.

I don't have a hatred of ties, but the scoring system isn't consistent, IMO. I'm okay with it, but a simple change could make it better. It's not difficult...in fact, it's simpler than the current scoring system we have for FGs.

Currently:

Length of Field Goal Made: 0-39, 3 pts
Length of Field Goal Made: 40-49, 4 pts
Length of Field Goal Made: 50-99, 5 pts


Proposed scoring:
Length of Field Goal Made: 0-30, 3 pts
Length of Field Goal Made: 31-99, .1pts for every 1 yard



Why the hatred of making FGs fractional scores?

I'm with Az on this one. Just because a tie would have been averted in this case if kicker scoring were different, it's such a statistical unliklihood already with the decimal scoring system we use, that the odds of getting another one would not change in the slightest.

Change kicker scoring if you want, but this was a fluke. Plain and simple.

right, it might have changed it in THIS particular case out of the hundreds of thousands of scoring possibilities, where all of the other players combined for scores with exactly the same number of tenths and hundredths. but adding tenths to kickers would create just as many instances like that where the tenths and hundredths were NOT tied and the kickers brought it to a tie.

it seems like the way our scoring is set up, only QBs (or players with passing yards, to be more precise, as passing is scored at .04 points per yard) can get scores that vary into the hundredths of a point, and they can only come up with numbers of hundredths that are multiples of four. then we have 6 players whose score can vary out to 10ths of a point. that pretty much creates as much variation in the total number of possible scores out to tenths of a point as you can possibly create. making it 7 players whose scores vary to 10ths of a point will not introduce any more variability into the total possible scores at all.

actually, if we're really concerned about having one tie every 10 years or whatever, we could do something like making it .09 points per field goal yard, instead of .1 points (if MFL even allows that customization). that actually WOULD introduce significantly greater variability into the pool of possible scores.

i'm not opposed to tweaking kicker scoring for other reasons, but doing it in the manner brewdude suggested would NOT decrease the already remote possibility of a tie.

I'm with Ursa -- ties are sooooo uncommon that we shouldn't be upset when they happen. It's better than a loss, and neither of you deserved to win.