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darin3
Met with ABWF today and we laid out a general framework for the league's rules and scoring. We're trying to keep it pretty basic, but if you want to discuss some of these rules, we have a few days to do that.

League Entry Fee: $50 (this will also cover MFL fees)

Winners' Payouts: (if we have 10 owners) $200 - Super Bowl winner, $100 - Super Bowl runner-up, $30 to each division champ, $30 to highest points. Remainder of pot will go to pay MFL.

Divisions: There will be two divisions - the Comal and the Guadalupe

Rosters/Starting Lineups: 16 total players, no roster requirements. Starting lineup will consist of 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 D/ST (leaving 7 bench spots)

Regular Season/Playoffs: The regular season will consist of 14 weeks. Two division winners and two wild card teams will make the playoffs. The wild card teams will be the two highest-scoring teams, regardless of division, who are not division winners. The playoffs begin week 15 with the lowest-seeded wild card playing the highest-seeded division winner. The lowest-seeded division winner will play the highest-seeded wild card. Winners of week 15 will meet in a week 16 super bowl. There will be no 3rd place game, unless those teams want to play for bragging rights.

Scoring: See below.

For QBs:
1 point per 20 passing yards
4 points per TD
1 point per 10 rushing or receiving yards

For RB/WR/TE:
1 point per 10 rushing or receiving yards
6 points per TD

For PK:
1 point per XP
FGs 1-30 yards = 3 points
31+ is yardage/10 (for example, a 48 yarder is 4.8 points)

For D/ST:

0 points allowed = 10 points
1-9 points allowed = 5 points
10-14 points allowed = 2 points

Punt/kickoff/turnover return TDs = 6 points

Safeties = 6 points

Sacks = 1 point

INT or fumble recovery = 1 point

NOTE: There are NO negative points for any position.

Free Agency: Owners will be given $200 to bid on free agents throughout the course of the season. Bids will be handled blind on MFL.

Auction Draft: Owners will be given a $160 salary cap to bid on players. Bids will go in increments of $1 until the player's bid reaches $20, then $5 increments thereon. A random order will be established just before the auction is set to start. Whoever goes first will name a player (but NOT a bid). The bidding will start at $1 or whatever the bidder wishes to open with. NOTE: if no one places a bid on said player, the owner who named the player will receive this player for $1. After the first "namer" goes, the second in line will go, third, fourth, etc. After the 10th (assuming we have 10) owner has supplied a player name, the list will restart at #1.

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Questions:

1. Is everyone OK with the wild-cards being best-points, regardless of division? Or would you prefer one wild card per division?

2. Is everyone OK with the owner who named a player that receives no bids having to pay $1 for this player? Or should the player be thrown back into the player pool and the next in line names a player?

3. Is $160 enough for a cap? We figured on average $10 per player. j2v from The Huddle has set up a mock auction draft tonight and tomorrow night, and has this: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF + 6 bench spots and a $200 cap... I guess it may not matter since we'll all be starting with the same amount of money.... thoughts?

Please supply more questions/problems you may have, and I'll make a running list here.

Looking forward to the auction and the season!!!

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Ziachild007
Overall looks pretty good. I'm pretty stoked about this deal, even thought it will be my first auction.

QUOTE (darin3 @ 8/4/08 2:27pm) *
1. Is everyone OK with the wild-cards being best-points, regardless of division? Or would you prefer one wild card per division?


KInd of a double edge sword, really sucks finishing with a winning record in one division and watching a team in the other division go to the playoffs with a worse record. But then again, If you end up in a harder division, you get punished by having to play better teams. I guess I could go either way on this.

QUOTE (darin3 @ 8/4/08 2:27pm) *
2. Is everyone OK with the owner who named a player that receives no bids having to pay $1 for this player? Or should the player be thrown back into the player pool and the next in line names a player?


Being new to the auction format, I guess I need a little more clarification on this one.
darin3
QUOTE (Ziachild007 @ 8/4/08 3:07pm) *
Overall looks pretty good. I'm pretty stoked about this deal, even thought it will be my first auction.



KInd of a double edge sword, really sucks finishing with a winning record in one division and watching a team in the other division go to the playoffs with a worse record. But then again, If you end up in a harder division, you get punished by having to play better teams. I guess I could go either way on this.



Being new to the auction format, I guess I need a little more clarification on this one.

1. Yeah, I believe we are all new to this... so we're all stoked!

2. Agreed... me and Adrian were really kind of on the fence here. I prefer most-points, because that's really a better indicator of a team's strength. I'm open to whatever the majority wants though.

3. Say I throw out Chris Chambers' name when it is my turn to select a player to put up for bid. I do NOT assign a starting bid... I'm merely throwing his name out to start the bidding process. If no one places a bid on him, I am forced to take this player for $1. Make sense?
Clubfoothead
QUOTE (darin3 @ 8/4/08 9:41pm) *
3. Say I throw out Chris Chambers' name when it is my turn to select a player to put up for bid. I do NOT assign a starting bid... I'm merely throwing his name out to start the bidding process. If no one places a bid on him, I am forced to take this player for $1. Make sense?


As a matter of preference, I prefer that if you throw a name out and nobody else takes the player, you have to take the player for the minimum bid. To do anything else would effectively be a "pass" that takes 10 minutes. But frankly, I'm in no matter what the rules are. I'll adapt. I'm a chamelion.

I don't think the cap amount really matters. You could make the cap $1.60 and we could bid in 1 cent incriments. Since everyone has the same amount of cap space I don't think it should matter.

Should it?

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How are we going to work with me since I can't be there? Is there going to be a web site or are you guys going to have a speaker phone or something for me to call in? I have unlimited minutes on the cell and I don't pay long distance anywhere in Texas on the home phone.
darin3
QUOTE (Clubfoothead @ 8/5/08 10:32am) *
As a matter of preference, I prefer that if you throw a name out and nobody else takes the player, you have to take the player for the minimum bid. To do anything else would effectively be a "pass" that takes 10 minutes. But frankly, I'm in no matter what the rules are. I'll adapt. I'm a chamelion.

I don't think the cap amount really matters. You could make the cap $1.60 and we could bid in 1 cent incriments. Since everyone has the same amount of cap space I don't think it should matter.

Should it?

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How are we going to work with me since I can't be there? Is there going to be a web site or are you guys going to have a speaker phone or something for me to call in? I have unlimited minutes on the cell and I don't pay long distance anywhere in Texas on the home phone.

To your first point, I think the group agrees with this so far...

Second, I see what you're saying. $160 should be fine.

And lastly, we'll probably have you on the phone. There are three speakerphones (two cells, one land) available. What may be tricky is having more than one person on the phone. We'll manage through it, though.
ABearWithFurniture
After giving it some thought and looking at the various different auction leagues...I'm thinking maybe we should just round out the credits to something even...say like 200, but keep the same amount of roster spots/starters...I think this will make it easier on everybody cuz most of us are new to this format...
darin3
QUOTE (ABearWithFurniture @ 8/6/08 1:37pm) *
After giving it some thought and looking at the various different auction leagues...I'm thinking maybe we should just round out the credits to something even...say like 200, but keep the same amount of roster spots/starters...I think this will make it easier on everybody cuz most of us are new to this format...

I think that's fine, and there is a mock auction happening tonight at 8pm CST, hosted by j2v - see the main forum for more info.
Ziachild007
Hey Bear, not sure if you have gotten that far yet, but I noticed a couple of scoring differences on MFL:

Receptions - 0-99 - .5 point for every 1
Safeties - 0-10 - 2 points each

Everything else looks great! thmbup.gif
ABearWithFurniture
QUOTE (Ziachild007 @ 8/10/08 10:44am) *
Hey Bear, not sure if you have gotten that far yet, but I noticed a couple of scoring differences on MFL:

Receptions - 0-99 - .5 point for every 1
Safeties - 0-10 - 2 points each

Everything else looks great! thmbup.gif


I thought we were doing a half point for PPR?

And safeties are 2 pts correct?
Ziachild007
QUOTE (ABearWithFurniture @ 8/10/08 8:14pm) *
I thought we were doing a half point for PPR?

And safeties are 2 pts correct?



I was just going by the scoring Darin posted:

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For QBs:
1 point per 20 passing yards
4 points per TD
1 point per 10 rushing or receiving yards

For RB/WR/TE:
1 point per 10 rushing or receiving yards
6 points per TD


For PK:
1 point per XP
FGs 1-30 yards = 3 points
31+ is yardage/10 (for example, a 48 yarder is 4.8 points)

For D/ST:

0 points allowed = 10 points
1-9 points allowed = 5 points
10-14 points allowed = 2 points

Punt/kickoff/turnover return TDs = 6 points

Safeties = 6 points

Sacks = 1 point

INT or fumble recovery = 1 point

NOTE: There are NO negative points for any position.
darin3
QUOTE (ABearWithFurniture @ 8/10/08 8:14pm) *
I thought we were doing a half point for PPR?

And safeties are 2 pts correct?

You and I did talk about the 0.5 PPR at lunch earlier in the week, it was on my notes sheet, I just forgot to put it in this thread. We'll have to discuss this with everyone. sad.gif My fault for not proofreading my thread.

As for 6-point safeties, someone asked at the draft and I confirmed that it was 6. Safeties are actually more rare than defensive TDs, so I figured scoring them the same would be OK. Everyone seemed good with that.

So, looks like our only snafu is the half-point per reception. I totally f'ed up on that....
ABearWithFurniture
QUOTE (darin3 @ 8/10/08 9:02pm) *
You and I did talk about the 0.5 PPR at lunch earlier in the week, it was on my notes sheet, I just forgot to put it in this thread. We'll have to discuss this with everyone. sad.gif My fault for not proofreading my thread.

As for 6-point safeties, someone asked at the draft and I confirmed that it was 6. Safeties are actually more rare than defensive TDs, so I figured scoring them the same would be OK. Everyone seemed good with that.

So, looks like our only snafu is the half-point per reception. I totally f'ed up on that....


Well, we did discuss the half point for PPR before the draft when we went over the rules/scoring and nobody disagreed...so I just thought we were good with that...but if anybody drafted not knowing that then we should throw it out for this year.

Safeties...no problem...I just didn't see that.
darin3
QUOTE (ABearWithFurniture @ 8/10/08 11:24pm) *
Well, we did discuss the half point for PPR before the draft when we went over the rules/scoring and nobody disagreed...so I just thought we were good with that...but if anybody drafted not knowing that then we should throw it out for this year.

Safeties...no problem...I just didn't see that.

I can't recall whether it was mentioned before we started or not... I was nearly positive it was posted here so didn't think to mention it again. I am sure I mentioned it to Kieran on our drive over, though.
Ziachild007
QUOTE (ABearWithFurniture @ 8/10/08 11:24pm) *
Well, we did discuss the half point for PPR before the draft when we went over the rules/scoring and nobody disagreed...so I just thought we were good with that...but if anybody drafted not knowing that then we should throw it out for this year.

Safeties...no problem...I just didn't see that.


Honestly never heard any PPR mentioned in preauction discussions, but then again I already had my scoring loaded with what had been posted so I might have just missed that part. I remember the safety talk being 6 because I remember Mike and Robert making mention of their other league. Not sure what everyone else was drafting by, but I did have my numbers based on no PPR. However with that being said, if the majority understood it to be PPR, then I will manage with the guys I drafted with no objection.
darin3
QUOTE (Ziachild007 @ 8/11/08 12:00am) *
Honestly never heard any PPR mentioned in preauction discussions, but then again I already had my scoring loaded with what had been posted so I might have just missed that part. I remember the safety talk being 6 because I remember Mike and Robert making mention of their other league. Not sure what everyone else was drafting by, but I did have my numbers based on no PPR. However with that being said, if the majority understood it to be PPR, then I will manage with the guys I drafted with no objection.

You can say that again unsure.gif

Edit: Oops, you deleted the 2nd one already... doh.gif
ABearWithFurniture
I can go either way really but let's just get a few others to chime in before we make any decisions...I'll change the safeties when I get a chance as I also need to set the Points against to the right settings...
Eat Hearty!!!
Honestly, I don't think .5 points per reception is that big a deal, and think we should keep it. It evens out the field for guys like Derrick Mason and Jerricho Cotchery, who get the same amount of receptions as Chad Johnson, but never get touchdown looks. Darin and I had talked about it on the way to the draft. I hadn't put anything into receptions. At a half point, the difference between Housch and Mike Furry last year is less than 2 points a game. Yards are what counts in this league. A full point per reception would be a whole other story. For running backs that receive, it's even less an issue (except Westbrook, who is part receiver).

I say keep the .5 per reception. Just FYI.

darin3
We need to contact rbmcdonald, who's not on the boards much nowadays... to poll him (and Mike) on this issue.
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