Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 1:32am
in an effort to make this happen quicker.... let's just have the LOWEST ROLL get the #1 pick & the HIGHEST ROLL get the #12. I'm not sure of the "official" procedures for the dice roll but we're not in any position to take any extra time.
let's giddy up.........
http://dice.evildm.net/index.php under current dice............
roll (4) d1000 and keep the top{blank} 1 time for {yourname}
email results to yourself &
Fraz99@comcast.net I'll send my roll to someone.... let's get go'in
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 1:48am
results -
1 - sir loins - 1870
2 - rbmcdonald - 2150
3 - titansfan - 2154
4 - fraz - 2367
5 - cun ling - 2370
6 - theprofessor - 2613
7 - moss6 - 2689
8 - billyb - 2731
9 - triple W - 3059
10 - ABWF - 3090
11 - chump - 3170
12 - biggiefries - 3328
theprofessor
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 1:50am
this was also sent to nick...
Results of your rolls
DGF (4d1000): 822, 871, 265, 409 = 2367
TripleW64 (4d1000): 897, 899, 512, 751 = 3059
I guess I take over the 12 spot.
RFFL Chump
8/26/08 7:51am
Chumpadelic (4d1000): 963, 940, 550, 717 = 3170
ABearWithFurniture
8/26/08 8:04am
Results of your rolls
4d1000: 985, 597, 765, 743 = 3090
These rolls were e-mailed to Fraz99@comcast.net and abearwfurn@yahoo.com
BillyBalata
8/26/08 8:17am
Results of your rolls
BillyB Gen Lost (4d1000): 335, 713, 740, 943 = 2731
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 9:01am
Results of Chumpadelic's dice rolled on August 26th, 2008 at 12:46:20 GMT
Chumpadelic (4d1000): 963, 940, 550, 717 = 3170
These rolls were e-mailed to Fraz99@comcast.net and jrjwindsor@yahoo.com.
Results of your rolls
Moss6 (4d1000): 912, 259, 594, 924 = 2689
These rolls were e-mailed to Fraz99@comcast.net and duckmoss@hotmail.com
Cunning Linguist
8/26/08 10:19am
yikes.
4d1000: 590, 537, 315, 928 = 2370
RFFL Chump
8/26/08 10:25am
I am thinking the official procedure was to go highest roll, first pick
or maybe not
BiggieFries
8/26/08 10:49am
Christ, look at all these old people. We should change the name of this place to Florida.

BiggieFries (4d1000): 670, 769, 893, 996 = 3328
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 11:01am
QUOTE (BiggieFries @ 8/26/08 8:49am)

Christ, look at all these old people. We should change the name of this place to Florida.

BiggieFries (4d1000): 670, 769, 893, 996 = 3328
looks like you can watch us all draft before you.
BiggieFries
8/26/08 11:21am
QUOTE (Down Goes Frazia @ 8/26/08 12:01pm)

looks like you can watch us all draft before you.

You old farts need the head start.
Results of your rolls
NSab (4d1000): 746, 182, 641, 49 = 1618
These rolls were e-mailed to mmpspr@aol.com
These rolls were NOT e-mailed to Fraz99@comcast.net because the e-mail addresses don't look valid.
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Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 12:17pm
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gotta send it to someone else to confirm.... I did not recieve anything.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 12:18pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 10:15am)

Results of your rolls
NSab (4d1000): 746, 182, 641, 49 = 1618
These rolls were e-mailed to mmpspr@aol.com
These rolls were NOT e-mailed to Fraz99@comcast.net because the e-mail addresses don't look valid.
what ?
QUOTE (Down Goes Frazia @ 8/26/08 1:18pm)

what ?
I dunno that's what it said, i puit mine in first.
But i got yours
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DGF (4d1000): 822, 871, 265, 409 = 2367
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Cunning Linguist
8/26/08 12:24pm
try the key, it should validate it.
TitansFan
8/26/08 12:41pm
TitansFan (4d1000): 334, 968, 628, 224 = 2154
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 1:23pm)

But i got yours
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Can you do it as an impartial person?
BiggieFries
8/26/08 12:49pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 1:45pm)

Can you do it as an impartial person?
Not sure if this my place to do this, but here's the validated dice roll:
Results of NSab Roll's dice rolled on August 26th, 2008 at 17:08:51 GMT
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NSab (4d1000): 746, 182, 641, 49 = 1618
These rolls were e-mailed to mmpspr@aol.com
QUOTE (BiggieFries @ 8/26/08 1:49pm)

Not sure if this my place to do this, but here's the validated dice roll:
Results of NSab Roll's dice rolled on August 26th, 2008 at 17:08:51 GMT
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NSab (4d1000): 746, 182, 641, 49 = 1618
These rolls were e-mailed to mmpspr@aol.com
Thanks biggie, I feel your pain Bro!
BiggieFries
8/26/08 1:20pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 1:54pm)

Thanks biggie, I feel your pain Bro!
No problem. Glad I could help.
QUOTE (BiggieFries @ 8/26/08 2:20pm)

No problem. Glad I could help.
Also glad to have you in our league, i don't understand how these HAG leagues went form great to nothing just like that. it has been a crazy year for me,i wasn't here that much in the offseason. i think the Huddle may have changed alot during my leave. Sorry about my son, he is also really busy at school.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 2:07pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 10:45am)

Can you do it as an impartial person?
*sigh*... not sure about this.
If it was anyone else who had a invalid roll & got the #1 pick would you want them to Re-roll ?
QUOTE (Down Goes Frazia @ 8/26/08 3:07pm)

*sigh*... not sure about this.
If it was anyone else who had a invalid roll & got the #1 pick would you want them to Re-roll ?
It was validated via the Key by Biggie, it didn't need a reroll just validation. It rjected your eamil, i don't know why.
Someone explain to eveyone , how the Key validation works ( Biggie). So we don't all think i cheated.
BillyBalata
8/26/08 2:27pm
One problem with this site is if you have a period behind one the email addresses iit will not accept them. I have had that happen twice in other leagues, where I or someone else copied and pasted the commish's email it also brought along the period from the end of the sentence. Thus it rejected the email address as not valid. Both cases the person had to reroll in those leagues.
BillyBalata
8/26/08 2:28pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 2:25pm)

Someone explain to eveyone , how the Key validation works ( Biggie). So we don't all think i cheated.
I don't think anyone thinks you cheated. But as long as I have been playing in huddle leagues...if the commish doesnt get an email, the rolls are not valid.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 2:34pm
QUOTE (BillyBalata @ 8/26/08 12:28pm)

I don't think anyone thinks you cheated. But as long as I have been playing in huddle leagues...if the commish doesnt get an email, the rolls are not valid.

exactly
QUOTE (Down Goes Frazia @ 8/26/08 3:34pm)

exactly
I am the commish, and so was Biggie for his league. if you old guys do't get it, then maybe he will explain it to you, i have to to work now.
BiggieFries
8/26/08 3:18pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 4:10pm)

I am the commish, and so was Biggie for his league. if you old guys do't get it, then maybe he will explain it to you, i have to to work now.
It was pretty easy actually. I took the AES encrypted message from NSAB's post and copy/pasted it into the dice server's "validate roll" link. The results are what I posted.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 3:36pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 1:10pm)

I am the commish, and so was Biggie for his league. if you old guys do't get it, then maybe he will explain it to you, i have to to work now.
you know what Nsab..... get off your high F'n horse. "I AM THE COMMISH" Until yesterday this league was dead.... & then this sh!t. whatever.
If you're the commish then maybe you should abide by the same damn rules as everyone else. If you forget to email your results to someone then you roll again. I could care less about the validation from biggie... you did NOT include another email in your message. Those are the rules. If you had rolled a 3000+ number I GUARANTEE you you would have re-rolled without question & not said a word about it.
I WAS the commish here for 2 years..... & it seems like if I don't do it again nothing will get done.
F**ck this sh!t....
BiggieFries
8/26/08 3:58pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 4:10pm)

Biggie is the best commish of all the leagues. He was given a bum hand by others. It's never Biggie's fault!
QUOTE (Down Goes Frazia @ 8/26/08 4:36pm)

Here here! I agree completely with the previous quote!

We should pay for his entry next season!
NSAB, I think the problem is that since there is no real way to verify that the post you made was the original, the rules state that 2 people have to receive the email from the dice server. I did the validation on yours just to get the ball rolling because someone suggested it and I thought it would be a good idea. Sorry if I over stepped my bounds with the validation of the roll from the post. This was incorrect of me to do according to the rules.
ETA:

::jedimindtrick:: these are not the quotes you're looking for ::jedimindtrick::
Caveman_Nick
8/26/08 4:07pm
Gentlemen,
There's no reason to get all up in arms over this.
NSab, I understand that there is a validation code. That allows people to check the roll, but there is no sign of an attempt to send it to a second email address.
Please understand, I am in NO WAY implying that anyone did or would do anything to improve their roll, but here's a very simple reason as to why we don't use validation codes and why we do require a roll to go to a second address:
I can go to the dice site and roll 10 times. As many times as I want. When I get the roll I want, I can just take that information and provide a validation code.
I understand and know it sucks that you got a high roll and are being asked to reroll, but that's the charter. You gotta do it and put a second email addy in the field.
There are certain checks and balances the make people feel comfortable getting into a money league like this with other people on the internet. This is one of those checks and balances. It needs to be followed.
Cunning Linguist
8/26/08 4:08pm
QUOTE (BiggieFries @ 8/26/08 4:58pm)

NSAB, I think the problem is that since there is no real way to verify that the post you made was the original, the rules state that 2 people have to receive the email from the dice server. I did the validation on yours just to get the ball rolling because someone suggested it and I thought it would be a good idea. Sorry if I over stepped my bounds with the validation of the roll from the post. This was incorrect of me to do according to the rules.
Sorry fellas, I suggested the validation route without knowing the rule of the league regarding the roll. Didn't mean to create a sh!tstorm. We use 64 & 128 bit validation scripts all the time and they're solid, with no way to tamper them so i thought it was a good way to see what happened. For the record, I did it too and it verified what NSab said. But after reading Nicks post,i can see how it could be "bent" a bit.
In no way am i implying that this is what happened either.
sorry to stir things up
Fraz , just because you guys don't understand how it works why should i do it again. if you want then I will step down also. Too much drama for Me.You startde the disco fever baby! stuff in a pm to m e Fraz.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 4:32pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 2:26pm)

Fraz , just because you guys don't understand how it works why should i do it again. if you want then I will step down also. Too much drama for Me.You startde the disco fever baby! stuff in a pm to m e Fraz.
nick..... you're sapp'in my strength dude.

everyone here is saying you should re-roll.... EVERYONE including commishes from other leagues. I'm not down for the drama either..... just following the rules.
you decide what you want to do..... ball's in your court.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 4:36pm
i'm outta here for a while.... need to go blow off some steam in the weight room.

i'll check back in tonight.
Have fun guys I am done with this, it isn't he same league anymore, Fraz you say you pulled everything back, You and Urs split without me even knowing. DW was the only one that informed me they were leaving. I suggested merging NVN and Gen Lost to salvage this mess.Guys I am not a follow the pack kind of guy. I don't want to put any more stress here. I rolled the site messed it up , not me. I f everyone jumps off a bridge, I won't. That's me stubborn I guess but me. Please everyone have a great season.
rbmcdonald
8/26/08 5:15pm
Hmm, so what is the status?
Results of your rolls
Yellow dogs / rbmcdonald (4d1000): 426, 525, 980, 219 = 2150
These rolls were e-mailed to Fraz99@comcast.net and rb.mcdonald@yahoo.com
I always suck at rolling
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 6:15pm
QUOTE (NSab @ 8/26/08 2:38pm)

Have fun guys I am done with this, it isn't he same league anymore, Fraz you say you pulled everything back, You and Urs split without me even knowing. DW was the only one that informed me they were leaving. I suggested merging NVN and Gen Lost to salvage this mess.Guys I am not a follow the pack kind of guy. I don't want to put any more stress here. I rolled the site messed it up , not me. I f everyone jumps off a bridge, I won't. That's me stubborn I guess but me. Please everyone have a great season.
unbelievable
so you're really dropping out ? Are you serious ? after all this crap & then you bail ?
Didn't see this coming from you dude.... not in a million years.
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 6:54pm
i've sent out a email to everyone asking them to vote on this... this has gone too far as it is. I do NOT want to see Nsab leave. Until his last post we were full......... now we're one short. I DO have someone who has shown interest but have not gotten any confirmation from them yet.
we need to move here. hopefully we can get this resolved right away.
Out of 12 people rolling - the site only choose one to mock
Down Goes Frazia
8/26/08 7:38pm
with Nsab's departure I have asked theprofessor to join & he has accepted..... he will be rolling the dice as soon as he makes arrangements with Al.
QUOTE (Down Goes Frazia @ 8/26/08 7:15pm)

unbelievable
so you're really dropping out ? Are you serious ? after all this crap & then you bail ?
Didn't see this coming from you dude.... not in a million years.
Fraz, i don't like being accused of cheating, because a dumb site screwed up. I also don't go for the pack mentality just becuase everybody else does. In my eyes it was legit. After all the stress i had to worry if this was even gonna fly,I don't feel like dealing with people that don't trust me.
No hard feelings from me, you and i have always gotten along. I just don't like drama. Good luck to you and everyone this year.
QUOTE (Caveman_Nick @ 8/26/08 5:07pm)

Gentlemen,
There's no reason to get all up in arms over this.
NSab, I understand that there is a validation code. That allows people to check the roll, but there is no sign of an attempt to send it to a second email address.
Please understand, I am in NO WAY implying that anyone did or would do anything to improve their roll, but here's a very simple reason as to why we don't use validation codes and why we do require a roll to go to a second address:
I can go to the dice site and roll 10 times. As many times as I want. When I get the roll I want, I can just take that information and provide a validation code.
I understand and know it sucks that you got a high roll and are being asked to reroll, but that's the charter. You gotta do it and put a second email addy in the field.
There are certain checks and balances the make people feel comfortable getting into a money league like this with other people on the internet. This is one of those checks and balances. It needs to be followed.
Nick i put in fraz's email as the second addy, it said it didn't look valid.
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