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theeohiostate
I would like to suggest we adopt a clear , specific and penalty laden rule concerning our IR.



1. Any player that is officially labeled ( O ) on the Friday MFL NFL Injury report ,as noted in the rosters section, is permitted to be placed on the IR. Those players must be activated to the active roster if they are removed on the Tuesday injury report. No exceptions. A player being scratched before kickoff is not allowed on IR. We will only use the Friday IR report for determination. For

2. Any player on your IR that is listed as doubtful or questionable are not permitted on the IR. All players on the NFL Pup may remain on the IR until they are activated , then the Rule 1 will be placed upon them.

3. Any owner that goes into a matchup with a player on IR that was not listed as ( O ) or on the PUP , will be penalized 5 points that week. The Exception for this rule is Thursday games. We will continue to use the Friday injury report , so your matchup is not official as pertaining to this penalty until the Sunday games at 1:00


Another suggestion is to remove the IR completely and open up 1 more roster spots, using the waiver process to grab our addtional player.


Thoughts ?
Apocalypse
I think we should add another roster spot, but in order to make it work I think we need to remove or loosen the roster position limits.
BigMikeinNY
This should have been addressed before the season started. We cannot begin to place "5 point infractions" during week 2 of a season.

Roller Coasters
The current rule states forfeit of the game, so 5 points would seem to be better. If we were to bump up the WR and RB roster allowances to 6 and create a 17th roster spot, I would be fine with that. I would specify that the 17th spot would only be available to use after week one. TOS, Habman has an application that gives a pop-up IR warning to those in violation when they go on the MFL site. I added it to Any Given Sunday, you might want to look into here. I think that most of the violations come from people forgetting about it.

The other alternative is that the commissioners are the only ones with the ability to place players on the IR. This is the case in several leagues that I am in. Players would post the IR move on the Huddle message board and then TOS or myself could place the player there if he meets the requirements.
theeohiostate
QUOTE (Roller Coasters @ 9/13/08 6:46am) *
The current rule states forfeit of the game, so 5 points would seem to be better. If we were to bump up the WR and RB roster allowances to 6 and create a 17th roster spot, I would be fine with that. I would specify that the 17th spot would only be available to use after week one. TOS, Habman has an application that gives a pop-up IR warning to those in violation when they go on the MFL site. I added it to Any Given Sunday, you might want to look into here. I think that most of the violations come from people forgetting about it.

The other alternative is that the commissioners are the only ones with the ability to place players on the IR. This is the case in several leagues that I am in. Players would post the IR move on the Huddle message board and then TOS or myself could place the player there if he meets the requirements.



I did some testing and moved a few players back and fourth on IR with Habmans app............no go with this template.

Both suggestions sound great to me.
I like the idea of a team posting here on the forum for activation and deactivation of the IR. To insure there isn't a delay in their waiver requests, they could post the player to IR and the player to pick up , so no one could take the player before Gary or myself make the move for them.

This way we would not need a penalty rule.

The top issue I have with the current use of the IR is teams can place a uninjured player on IR for a moment to secure another FA , then move that FA to IR and loop the system.


Can we get a vote on this and implement it effective immediately ?
SLAYER
QUOTE (theeohiostate @ 9/13/08 8:12am) *
I like the idea of a team posting here on the forum for activation and deactivation of the IR. To insure there isn't a delay in their waiver requests, they could post the player to IR and the player to pick up , so no one could take the player before Gary or myself make the move


Can we get a vote on this and implement it effective immediately ?

I like the above option
Gopher
+2
mitpdub
QUOTE (theeohiostate @ 9/12/08 4:05pm) *
I would like to suggest we adopt a clear , specific and penalty laden rule concerning our IR.



1. Any player that is officially labeled ( O ) on the Friday MFL NFL Injury report ,as noted in the rosters section, is permitted to be placed on the IR. Those players must be activated to the active roster if they are removed on the Tuesday injury report. No exceptions. A player being scratched before kickoff is not allowed on IR. We will only use the Friday IR report for determination. For

2. Any player on your IR that is listed as doubtful or questionable are not permitted on the IR. All players on the NFL Pup may remain on the IR until they are activated , then the Rule 1 will be placed upon them.

3. Any owner that goes into a matchup with a player on IR that was not listed as ( O ) or on the PUP , will be penalized 5 points that week. The Exception for this rule is Thursday games. We will continue to use the Friday injury report , so your matchup is not official as pertaining to this penalty until the Sunday games at 1:00


Another suggestion is to remove the IR completely and open up 1 more roster spots, using the waiver process to grab our addtional player.


Thoughts ?


I think 5 points isn't enough, but forfeit maybe too much of a penalty. How about the highest point scorer of that particular postion on the starting lineup is given a zero for the week.


mitpdub
QUOTE (theeohiostate @ 9/13/08 6:12am) *
I did some testing and moved a few players back and fourth on IR with Habmans app............no go with this template.

Both suggestions sound great to me.
I like the idea of a team posting here on the forum for activation and deactivation of the IR. To insure there isn't a delay in their waiver requests, they could post the player to IR and the player to pick up , so no one could take the player before Gary or myself make the move for them.

This way we would not need a penalty rule.

The top issue I have with the current use of the IR is teams can place a uninjured player on IR for a moment to secure another FA , then move that FA to IR and loop the system.


Can we get a vote on this and implement it effective immediately ?


This sounds good.
Roller Coasters
Looks like we have 5 votes for the option to allow only commishes to place players on the IR through message board posts. Anyone else?
BigMikeinNY
I vote for "commish should do IR changes through Message Board from owner"
Apocalypse
QUOTE (Roller Coasters @ 9/24/08 11:19am) *
Looks like we have 5 votes for the option to allow only commishes to place players on the IR through message board posts. Anyone else?


I think this is a very bad idea. Either do away with IR or leave it as is.
theeohiostate
QUOTE (Apocalypse @ 9/24/08 5:49pm) *
I think this is a very bad idea. Either do away with IR or leave it as is.




I agree with doing away with it altogether , maybe open our rosters to 17 now , and expand our RB and WR to 6 max.
Gopher
QUOTE (Apocalypse @ 9/24/08 2:49pm) *
I think this is a very bad idea. Either do away with IR or leave it as is.

Just out of curiosity, why? Seems like a reasonable way, and the only way, to regulate a rule that is being abused.

QUOTE (theeohiostate @ 9/24/08 2:54pm) *
I agree with doing away with it altogether , maybe open our rosters to 17 now , and expand our RB and WR to 6 max.

I'm fine with that as well.
Apocalypse
QUOTE (Gopher @ 9/25/08 3:40am) *
Just out of curiosity, why? Seems like a reasonable way, and the only way, to regulate a rule that is being abused.


I'm fine with that as well.


Because you would now be at the mercy of a commissioner's (who by-the-way are also owners) schedule to make a transaction for you - one that potentially is needed to free up space to make a waiver addition and one that may also potentially be last-minute.

If IR is such a problem, then get rid of it and add another roster spot like we have in several other BOTH leagues.
Gopher
QUOTE (Apocalypse @ 9/25/08 4:16am) *
Because you would now be at the mercy of a commissioner's (who by-the-way are also owners) schedule to make a transaction for you - one that potentially is needed to free up space to make a waiver addition and one that may also potentially be last-minute.

If IR is such a problem, then get rid of it and add another roster spot like we have in several other BOTH leagues.

Yes and no. Once you post in this forum, assuming the player is IR-eligible, it''s a done deal, the way I understand it. In other words, even if they don't make the change on MFL in time, it's time-stamped here. The commissioner can always go back once the games have started and edit rosters/lineups if needed.

That said, I'm totally fine with just adding the extra spot. Seems like a simple way to fix it. smile.gif
BigMikeinNY
But adding another roster spot DOES NOT fix the problemn at hand NOR does it have anything to do with a player on IR. Giving our team a 6th RB or 6th WR has nothing to do with needing a place to put an injured player.

I would not vote for an extra spot for a RB or WR, especially in a 3 player keeper league which would remove 12 more players out of the free agent pool each and every season and off season.
SLAYER
QUOTE (BigMikeinNY @ 9/25/08 8:33pm) *
But adding another roster spot DOES NOT fix the problemn at hand NOR does it have anything to do with a player on IR. Giving our team a 6th RB or 6th WR has nothing to do with needing a place to put an injured player.

I would not vote for an extra spot for a RB or WR, especially in a 3 player keeper league which would remove 12 more players out of the free agent pool each and every season and off season.


You do like I do in every other league I'm in. You make a management decision to either cut the guy or hold him until he comes back. It'sreally not complicated.
BigMikeinNY
QUOTE (SLAYER @ 9/26/08 1:57pm) *
You do like I do in every other league I'm in. You make a management decision to either cut the guy or hold him until he comes back. It'sreally not complicated.



I think you missed what I was trying to say....

..adding a another roster spot takes 12 more players out of the free agent pool.
Gopher
I think we should go with the above-mentioned proposal for the rest of this season... let the commissioners "regulate" the IR process by allowing IR only through this forum.

Then, at the end of this season, we can put it to a vote going into next year, with 3 options:

1) Leave the rosters as is (16), with no IR.

2) Leave them at 16, but continue to do the commish-regulated IR requests.

3) Expand to 17 with no IR.

Most votes wins going into next season. I really don't see how we can fairly change this rule in mid-season, so it becomes an issue of simply figuring out how to "police" it until we have a permanent solution. The previously-mentioned solution seems like a good temporary fix, in my opinion. shrug.gif
Roller Coasters
That sounds like the most reasonable suggestion Gopher.
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