Last year I went to a lot of effort getting together some great bbq sauce and salsa. This year I just don't have time. so It'll be $30 to you, snail mail or paypal will work for me.

I am not in the bottom four. I just looked.

So the league entry was 5$, but I have to pay 30$ now because of a "different" way to determine the bottom four?

League Format
Poles ‘n Holes II (PNHII) is a twelve-team league comprised of three divisions. Competition between teams will be in a head-to-head format, on a round robin basis. Teams will play a 14-week regular season. You will play teams within your division twice and teams outside your division once during the regular season.
Weeks 15 and 16 of the NFL season will be reserved for the PNHII single-elimination playoff tournament. The top team from each division, plus one wild-card team, will advance to the playoffs.

Additionally, the four worst teams by record (then head-to-head, then lowest total points) will advance to the Toilet Bowl playoffs. The winners (high score) of the semi-finals advance to the finals. The winner of the Toilet Bowl will garner the #1 slot in the next year's rookie draft*. The losers of the semi-finals will also play for The Ultimate Crapper title. The loser of this consolation match will be declared the Ultimate Crapper (having lost BOTH Toilet Bowl matches) and will be required to endure one entire off-season of ridicule and harassment by their fellow league mates.

*Also…the winner of the Toilet Bowl will get to spearhead renaming the Ultimate Crapper’s team by taking suggestions from other owners and selecting 3 choices to be voted on by the league.

The following year's Rookie draft positions will be determined by records at the end of the regular season with the two exceptions being PnH2 champ getting the 12th slot and the TB winner receiving the 1st slot.

Last year I went to a lot of effort getting together some great bbq sauce and salsa. This year I just don't have time. so It'll be $30 to you, snail mail or paypal will work for me.

The very first section of the "Additional Rules" section on MFL says the following:



It was determined to be the 4 worst teams, regardless of division, a couple years ago when we made the Toilet Bowl WORTH something.....the #1 draft slot (instead of just a losers bowl.....lol). What you may not know is that this league (and it's rulebook) was fashioned after PnH1...BUT we made a few rules changes over the years that are different from PnH1. The bottom part about tiebreakers was taken directly from their rules. Unfortunately, when rewriting the ABOVE league format section over a year ago, I forgot to change the bottom part a bit to conform with our vision of who should be in the toilet bowl and vying for the #1 draft slot. Our ruling was that it would NOT be "bottom of each division + one wildcard" (as it is in PnH1)...but the bottom 4, regardless of division. Therefore...division record is moot in this instance, as is the part about "breaking ties within division, then moving on...".

It was stated in the 'League Format' section at the beginning......and missed in changes at the bottom of the rules. For that.....I am sorry.

My apologies for the confusion, PatsFan. I only wonder why you are questioning the ruling now.....on Dec 20th......when I posted the playoff schedule and explanations on the 8th. Where were you then?

Bottom Four owe the top Four ~$30 prize of some sort. Let me know your offerings and I'll put it here for the top four to choose from in order of finish.

Prizes Offered - let me know in this thread.

1. GTB - $30 cash/paypal
2. PatsFan -
3. Dragon -
4. DoJaded -Choice of one of the following:
a) Washington made Smoke Salmon trio http://www.madeinwashington.com/product_in...=1001&CID=1
b.) Washington made Smoked Copper River Salmon http://www.madeinwashington.com/product_in...=1000&CID=1
c) $30 of Washington State lottery tickets.
d) Copy of Microsoft Vista (Full Version) (Not for resale. Has to be for your own personal use.)
e) $30 cash, PayPal's to your account.


Prizes Accepted

1. Venus - GTB
2. Vin
3. REZ
4. Nuke

Folks.......this is ON YOUR HONOR.....it's up to the two paired up to get the exchange finalized. If management hears of any welching.....it may be grounds for removal from the league.

Bottom Four owe the top Four ~$30 prize of some sort. Let me know your offerings and I'll put it here for the top four to choose from in order of finish.

Prizes Offered - let me know in this thread.

1. GTB - $30 cash/paypal
2. PatsFan -
3. Dragon -
4. DoJaded -Choice of one of the following:
a) Washington made Smoke Salmon trio http://www.madeinwashington.com/product_in...=1001&CID=1
b.) Washington made Smoked Copper River Salmon http://www.madeinwashington.com/product_in...=1000&CID=1
c) $30 of Washington State lottery tickets.
d) Copy of Microsoft Vista (Full Version) (Not for resale. Has to be for your own personal use.)
e) $30 cash, PayPal's to your account.


Prizes Accepted

1. Venus - GTB
2. Vin
3. REZ
4. Nuke

Folks.......this is ON YOUR HONOR.....it's up to the two paired up to get the exchange finalized. If management hears of any welching.....it may be grounds for removal from the league.

I have a few options for you to choose from.

1) Washington made Smoke Salmon trio http://www.madeinwashington.com/product_in...=1001&CID=1
2) Washington made Smoked Copper River Salmon http://www.madeinwashington.com/product_in...=1000&CID=1
3) $30 of Washington State lottery tickets.
4) Copy of Microsoft Vista (Full Version) (Not for resale. Has to be for your own personal use.)
5) $30 cash, PayPal's to your account.

Hey DO, any chance you would have a copy of Microsoft Office you'd want to offer instead of Vista? My new computer doesn't have Word or Excel.

Hey DO, any chance you would have a copy of Microsoft Office you'd want to offer instead of Vista? My new computer doesn't have Word or Excel.

Cash is cool. I do have paypal or I can pm you my address. I am sort of a noob with paypal so you may need to let me know what you need to know.

I can make it Office, but I'd have to charge the difference in price, since it's over the $30, even for me. I think it costs $60 + S&H.

unbelievable...who wipes your ass princess

Go play in your room...the adults are talking.

I can make it Office, but I'd have to charge the difference in price, since it's over the $30, even for me. I think it costs $60 + S&H.

I'll take it. Send me a PM and I can paypal the difference.

Looks like 2 more get added to Hugh One for gettin stiffed by owners in this league....I'll be droppin this League Bunz

Read your PM.

Sorry folks. First things first - I will offer the $30 cash-o-la via paypal or any other prescribed method.

Next - If you all decide to boot me from this league, I have no leg to stand on. If you would allow me to rejoin next year, I promise not to go awol in week 11. (Although with my WR corps, I really don't think it mattered). I have no sob story, the plain truth is that between work going absolutely bonkers, and the college recruiting / selection process taking about a hundred times more time and effort than I ever expected, FF got lost in the shuffle. I don't have another child going through that for another 2 years, so I should be ok next year.

My sincere apologies to all - I meant no disrespect by going awol.

Just let me know if I'm allowed back next year before I paypal the prize (just kidding)

Btw - i think I may owe Bunz too?

Dragon

Sorry folks. First things first - I will offer the $30 cash-o-la via paypal or any other prescribed method.

Next - If you all decide to boot me from this league, I have no leg to stand on. If you would allow me to rejoin next year, I promise not to go awol in week 11. (Although with my WR corps, I really don't think it mattered). I have no sob story, the plain truth is that between work going absolutely bonkers, and the college recruiting / selection process taking about a hundred times more time and effort than I ever expected, FF got lost in the shuffle. I don't have another child going through that for another 2 years, so I should be ok next year.

My sincere apologies to all - I meant no disrespect by going awol.

Just let me know if I'm allowed back next year before I paypal the prize (just kidding)

Btw - i think I may owe Bunz too?

Dragon

No sweat Dragon. We knew you'd be around. And yes, you still owe me for the league fee. I'll take that first draft pick next season as payment in full.

Dragon......REZ......I'm pairing you two up for the prize exchange. Get together and work it out.

Nuke......the commishes will take care of your prize hun. No worries!


Since it's no secret now and has been finalized......PatsFan has bowed out. Everyone keep your ears open for potential owners YOU would like to see here. That team was coming on strong at the end of the season.....great, competitive division. Good draft slot. Could be a nice team for someone!

If you know of anyone interested......let us know via a PM or email (not here in the forum).

Watch yerself, nuke. Just because I didn't take Portis off your hands for the mere price of the world, don't be making all Pats fans to be out to be doofuses.