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Stingers
Spread Offense: 1RB, 3 or 4 WR and 1 or 2 TE flex, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB
Pro Set: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB
Wishbone: 1QB, 3RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB

League Scoring

Event......................... Points............... Event............................... Points
20 yards passing--- -----1..................10 yards rushing/receiving----- 1
TD pass------------------ 4 ...................Interception --------------------3
Rushing/Receiving TD---6 ...................Reception ----------------------0.5
Fumble--------------------2 ...............2 pt reception/run/pass---------- 2
Field goal--------3,(1-39) 4,(40-49) or 5(50-100)
Extra point----------------1 ................Defensive TD----------------------6
Tackle --------------------2...................Asst tackle -----------------------1
Sack ----------------------3.................Fumble recovery ------------------2
Forced Fumble -----------3..................Interception -----------------------3
Safety --------------------4.................Pass defended ---------------------1.5
Intercepted------------minus 1.............Fumble lost-------------------minus 2
Forced Fumble------------3..................Fumble Recovery (from opp.)----2
Blocked Punts----------2---------------Blocked FG-------------------------3
Any TD by a Starter----- 6--(no return yardage, but any TD in any capacity by a starter-----6)

I am guessing we would also maintain a 40 man roster

1.Any interest in IR? An IR that would allow you to pick up a replacement player without dropping one - would have to be out by the NFL and as soon as they were cleared to play they would have to be put back on the roster or dropped.

2. How do you want to handle waivers? Blind bidding with redraft bucks - start with a 100 each year and when they are gone....get a new 100 each year or do you want it by worst team to best - or sorted by who got a wavier pick last?

3 Dues - 50 or 75?

4 Draft date - August, July ??

5 Any other issues?

Lets get our league up and talking. Once we settle basic isssues we can start on getting the MFL site set-up. whacko2.gif
Robash
not sure we need a 40 man roster
wolfden1
QUOTE (Stingers @ 1/16/09 4:22pm) *
Spread Offense: 1RB, 3 or 4 WR and 1 or 2 TE flex, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB
Pro Set: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB
Wishbone: 1QB, 3RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB

League Scoring

Event......................... Points............... Event............................... Points
20 yards passing--- -----1..................10 yards rushing/receiving----- 1
TD pass------------------ 4 ...................Interception --------------------3
Rushing/Receiving TD---6 ...................Reception ----------------------0.5
Fumble--------------------2 ...............2 pt reception/run/pass---------- 2
Field goal--------3,(1-39) 4,(40-49) or 5(50-100)
Extra point----------------1 ................Defensive TD----------------------6
Tackle --------------------2...................Asst tackle -----------------------1
Sack ----------------------3.................Fumble recovery ------------------2
Forced Fumble -----------3..................Interception -----------------------3
Safety --------------------4.................Pass defended ---------------------1.5
Intercepted------------minus 1.............Fumble lost-------------------minus 2
Forced Fumble------------3..................Fumble Recovery (from opp.)----2
Blocked Punts----------2---------------Blocked FG-------------------------3
Any TD by a Starter----- 6--(no return yardage, but any TD in any capacity by a starter-----6)

I am guessing we would also maintain a 40 man roster

1.Any interest in IR? An IR that would allow you to pick up a replacement player without dropping one - would have to be out by the NFL and as soon as they were cleared to play they would have to be put back on the roster or dropped.

Don't need IR in a re-draft, you can't keep him anyway so just cut him.

2. How do you want to handle waivers? Blind bidding with redraft bucks - start with a 100 each year and when they are gone....get a new 100 each year or do you want it by worst team to best - or sorted by who got a wavier pick last?

Blind bidding bucks works for me

3 Dues - 50 or 75?

Either one okay w/ me

4 Draft date - August, July ??

August

5 Any other issues?

Lets get our league up and talking. Once we settle basic isssues we can start on getting the MFL site set-up. whacko2.gif

Stingers
coach.gif Come on everyone - lets chat it up. Get basics like scoring etc down pat and then we can start with the MFL site.!

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Stingers
I think we still need an IR just for the studs that are out for 2-3 weeks like Marshawn Lynch - I don't think I would want to drop him and then try and pick him up when he is ready to go It should be for those players that are "Out" according to NFL.

I also like the idea of a 40 man roster - with so many bye week problems - but that is something I'm willing to flexible on.
Swiss Cheezhead
1. Yes

2. MFL blind bidding

3. 50

4. July

5. Not that I can think of right now
Rovers
Since this is a redraft league, I think waivers should be a worst to first priority. League bucks work great in keeper/dynasty leagues, but I'm not sure about a 100% redraft league.

I'd prefer $75, but $50 is fine.

With a 40 man roster, I don't see a need for IR. There should be plenty of room to carry a player who might be out for 4 weeks.

I think the draft should start no later than August 1. Slow draft, 12 hours, no weekends. Earlier would be good too.
Stingers
QUOTE (Rovers @ 2/4/09 11:23am) *
Since this is a redraft league, I think waivers should be a worst to first priority. League bucks work great in keeper/dynasty leagues, but I'm not sure about a 100% redraft league.

I'd prefer $75, but $50 is fine.

With a 40 man roster, I don't see a need for IR. There should be plenty of room to carry a player who might be out for 4 weeks.

I think the draft should start no later than August 1. Slow draft, 12 hours, no weekends. Earlier would be good too.


I could see doing the worst to first priority and then 1st come first served after waivers are run. It would be much easier without league bucks. I also see the point if we have a 40 man roster we wouldn't need a IR.

I'd still prefer 75 in a 12 team league but $50 would work

I agree on the slow draft and I like August 1. I would prefer to have the first couple of rounds run without a clock as there is usually some trading going on - and then set a 12 hour clock say after 10 rounds. Just a thought
Gopher
A few thoughts...

- With the different options on starting lineups for the offensive side of the ball, I propose one of two things... The first would be to create an option on defense as well. In other words, make the 3rd DL or 3rd DB optional, making eight defenders total. This also would make for an even number of starters (16)... eight on each side (assuming kicker is included with offense). The other option would be to make the offensive total the same as defense (9), and go with QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K and a flex RB/WR/TE. The change would be that everyone is required to start 2 RB's minimum, but given that this is a 12-team league with hugh rosters, that really shouldn't ever be an issue... Even with bye weeks and injuries, I would think most teams would be able to carry at least 5 RB's (and that's still only a total of 60, or less than two per NFL team). Not a big deal... I'm just a numbers guy (my wife call's me "Rainman") and I prefer that things to be "even," so I thought I would throw that out there. Like I said, just a thought....

- Roster size - If we were to increase the starting lineup to 18, I think 40-man rosters would be about right. If it stays at 17 or goes down to 16, however, I think 40 might be slightly excessive. Generally, a good rule of thumb is that roster size should be approximately twice the size of starting lineups, give or take a player or two. Once again, not a big deal, but if we were to go with 16, I would say shrink the rosters to 35 or 36 players, which would be plenty, but still leave a few options available on the waiver wire. If the general idea is to focus on drafting, and limit free agency options somewhat, I say start 18 players and stick with 40.

- Don't really have a preference on the cost... $50 or $75, whatever.

- Draft date... given that I'm here daily, I prefer the later the better, simply because there's more information available the later we get into July/August. I understand that not everybody "lives" here, though, so if the group wants to start earlier to avoid running out of time, I'm fine with that.

- Waivers... I guess it depends. Worst to first helps even things out, but in a way, it penalizes the teams that drafted well, while giving those that might not have a bit of an advantage. I'm not a big fan of a waivers process where you fall to the bottom of the list when you pick up a player. That leaves blind bidding with a set amount each year ($100 for example)... This works relatively well in the Huddle Ladder, and would probably be my first choice in a league like this. MFL has this option and it seems fairly simple to set up, although Mike (TOS) would definitely know more about this than myself. Since it's not a keeper/dynasty league, I'm assuming money would not roll over from year to year.

Other than that, I have no opinion on anything. biggrin.gif No, seriously, I like this concept and am excited to participate. Like I said, the points above are just my thoughts... I'm flexible and can just go with the flow or majority consensus on most issues. Glad to be here. smile.gif
Gopher
QUOTE (Stingers @ 2/4/09 12:55pm) *
I could see doing the worst to first priority and then 1st come first served after waivers are run. It would be much easier without league bucks. I also see the point if we have a 40 man roster we wouldn't need a IR.

I'd still prefer 75 in a 12 team league but $50 would work

I agree on the slow draft and I like August 1. I would prefer to have the first couple of rounds run without a clock as there is usually some trading going on - and then set a 12 hour clock say after 10 rounds. Just a thought

Like I said in my previous post (novel), blind bidding works well in other MFL leagues. On the other hand, I don't want to be an advocate of something that is going to cause a lot of extra work for anybody. Usually, each team simply gets $100 or $1000 for the season. You still have a waivers cutoff each week (Wednesday at midnight, for example). Highest bidder gets the player. Tie would go to the team with the worse record, followed by lower total points. After Wednesday, it's FCFS at $1 per acquisition.

I'm fine with worst to first as well... I just think the blind bidding adds an extra feature that makes things slightly more interesting... just one more facet to strategize and plan for, as owners.

I agree that a larger roster is preferable to IR spots... Makes things fair/even for everybody involved. If it comes down to one or the other, I'd rather stick with the "excessively" larger roster size (40) than have a couple of IR spots.
Tecmo
let's go 100 with 12 teams, with 3 DWs you can always fill it up
Swiss Cheezhead
So I'm assuming the lineups and scoring are set (as they're outlined in the first post). How 'bout an executive decision on the waivers and roster size issues? I'm sure we can all get on board with whatever. smile.gif
Sgt Ryan


My post in this thread was just deleted. WHY?







Spread Offense: 1RB, 3 or 4 WR and 1 or 2 TE flex, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB
Pro Set: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB
Wishbone: 1QB, 3RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 3DL, 3LB, 3DB

League Scoring

Event......................... Points............... Event............................... Points
20 yards passing--- -----1..................10 yards rushing/receiving----- 1
TD pass------------------ 4 ...................Interception --------------------3
Rushing/Receiving TD---6 ...................Reception ----------------------0.5
Fumble--------------------2 ...............2 pt reception/run/pass---------- 2
Field goal--------3,(1-39) 4,(40-49) or 5(50-100)
Extra point----------------1 ................Defensive TD----------------------6
Tackle --------------------2...................Asst tackle -----------------------1
Sack ----------------------3.................Fumble recovery ------------------2
Forced Fumble -----------3..................Interception -----------------------3 [/]
Safety --------------------4.................Pass defended ---------------------1.5
[b]Intercepted------------minus 1.
............Fumble lost-------------------minus 2
Forced Fumble------------3..................Fumble Recovery (from opp.)----2
Blocked Punts----------2---------------Blocked FG-------------------------3
Any TD by a Starter----- 6--(no return yardage, but any TD in any capacity by a starter-----6)

I am guessing we would also maintain a 40 man roster

1.Any interest in IR? An IR that would allow you to pick up a replacement player without dropping one - would have to be out by the NFL and as soon as they were cleared to play they would have to be put back on the roster or dropped.

I like IR when a player is out

2. How do you want to handle waivers? Blind bidding with redraft bucks - start with a 100 each year and when they are gone....get a new 100 each year or do you want it by worst team to best - or sorted by who got a wavier pick last?

Blind bidding bucks works for me[/b[

3 Dues - 50 or 75

[b] 50




4 Draft date - August, July ??

August

5 Any other issues?

I posted that we need to clear up the wording on this.

Interceptions is listed twice, once in the offensive scoring portion, and the defensive scoring portion. And INtercepted is listed once, at the bottom, where the defensive scoring is at.

And in the spread set, there is no QB listed.

I also like a TE scoring a full point per receptions, vs .5 for RB and WR. And think all versions should have the ability to have 1-2 TE, to make the position more relevant.







Im a little disturbed my post about this issues were deleted. What the hell
Gopher
Don't really see a need for IR with 40 players, but I'm good with whatever, as long as the rule is clear (they have to be "out" on MFL/NFL/Huddle, etc.).

I'm guessing a lot of people aren't checking in here regularly, so we might need to send out an email to get more group feedback on the draft start, collecting $$, etc.
Rovers
I still prefer a worst to first waiver order. Blind bidding works great in dynasty leagues, but in a redraft... I think allowing the worst teams first dibs on FA's is the way to go. Then first come first served.

I like the 40 man roster, no IR.

I will send a league email to remind league members about dues and to post about our draft start date.

Sarge, only Connie and I can delete posts, as far as I know, and I certainly did not delete your post or anyone else's. I can't believe Connie did unless it were some sort of accident. Everyone in this league is garanteed to have their say. On issues that have split opions, we will conduct polls, and that will determine any bylaws that are still in question.

Roster sizes and waiver priorities/IR are the two issues that will need a poll soon.
The Mucca
I prefer Blind Bidding unless the worst to first is based on total points instead of win loss record.
I also like the 40 man roster, and in a redraft I don't think IR is important, so I don't care on this one.
As far as PPR I like .5 for RB 1.0 for WR and 1.5 for TE with a two tight end option, not sure if
these were discussed or not.
tex
This will be my first redraft in quite some time but I think I agree that IR is unnecessary in a redraft. I like the 1.5 PPR for TE suggestion, and I think the worst to first is good for WW.
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