Time to check in. I hope everyone is going to play again this season. The 2009 website is all set up and paid for: http://www6.myfantasyleague.com/2009/home/10121

In for 2009:
Roadrunner
swidman
figme
BUD
boilerdave
Elvis
TTAC
Pratts
Darkman
Flattop
Merlin (He hasn't checked in here, but he voted on the other thread)

That's everyone. We now need a new owner for the No Names franchise.

I'll post what I said in the last thread.
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I'm willing to play again, but I have considered retiring from this league over the last two seasons. There a couple of issues I would like to see the league discuss:

1. We need to find another owner so Meep doesn't have to run two teams, again.
2. Would we ever consider turning this league into a complete redraft league from season to season?
3. What about doing a new alignment for divisions? Maybe two 6 team divisions? Top two teams from each division advance to playoffs?

I'm just thinking of ways to keep interested in this league and not leave it.

i am in and would be happy to explore swids idea. Maybe keep one and redraft the rest. Could go to two leagues and take the top three from each. or four divisisions with three each and the top one advances.

I'm in and should be able to draft anytime we choose.


Swid =


I am up for anything concerening keepers or redrafts, I can win with what I've got or start from scratch and beat your arses!

I'm in and would like to see us go complete redraft.

I have draft day set for Monday, August 24. We could have a live draft in the evening like last year, or we can start a slow draft then (we'd have 16 days). We could also do a partial live draft (for however long people can stay) and then finish slow. NFL Week 1 starts on Thursday, September 10.

Does anyone have any problem with drafting on 8/24?

This. It would be nice to not run 2 teams. Let's see if we can get this taken care of ASAP.

I have a 9:30 softball game on the 24th. So I'd only be available until about 8:30 EDT.

Softball on Monday nights, bowling on Tuesdays.

Now that I have great keepers to choose from you girls want to make it a redraft?

Your fear and jealousy of me is sooo transparent!



I've been beating your asses with crap for yrs. Now you see me loaded up for the long haul and you are shaking like a 13 yr old lil girl at a Bud Grant family reunion!

I persoanlly liked our keeper rules but it makes it harder to attract new owners.

I do have someone that will take over a team regardless of the format.

In.

Weekdays are not good, unless the time is after 10 PM Central.

I've suggested this before but why not do a slow scoreboard draft?

We could start anytime, and have enough time to get past any kind of delays.

LOL, you'd better brush up on your history Dave, I believe you're 2-8 against the mighty BUD GRANT!

That's because I don't upset the retards. You fellas have all that superhuman strength and no sense of humor.

I'm 5-4 against your team. You really do suck balls.

LMAO, kinda like the time R.C. knocked your arse through his kitchen wall!

exactly like that.


You ever see that fool anymore?

Not in a long time, At one time I heard he was driving a semi cross country and got pissed off, parked their truck out west somewhere and hitch hiked home.
last I heard he was working in the coal mines and had gotten off the drugs.

Ok, weeknights are out for a live draft. It also looks like the HOFFA draft is shaping up to be on Saturday evening, 8/29.

We could try:
Saturday, August 22
Sunday, August 23
Sunday, August 30
Saturday, September 5 (Labor Day weekend)
Sunday, September 6 (Labor Day weekend)

Or we could go with the slow draft starting on Monday 8/24, giving us 17 days to complete it.

Sunday the 23rd and 30th work best for me.

I would really like to avoid doing this over Labor Day weekend.

Labor Day weekend would be perfect but I can adjust accordingly, and starting the slow draft would be optimal.

I'm in

I'll reply with more when I am home got Big Brother watching at work

I am in and as far as draft..just tell me when

I'm on vacation the week of the 8th thru the 16th other than that I should be available.

Sunday, August 30. Anyone have a problem drafting that day or evening?

As of now that works for me.

Anyone else? Anyone? Anyone???

Come on, people. Let's get this nailed down. The time is almost upon us.

30th works.. what time?

The 30'th works for me.

Why don't we just start the slow draft and get this over!

I'm good with the 30th.

Can we do it in the morning as opposed to the evening? I have some plans with my daughter and won't be available starting at noon. I won't be home until 8:30pm that night. This is all central time zone, btw.

Cue the Wizard.....

every f'n year


why can't everyone realize that every f'n yr on or about the week before labor day weekend, we are gonna have 2-3 drafts to try to complete? And make plans accordingly?

Even my mother knows I have drafts coming up and will take my kids to anything they need, if they truly need to be there, much less my wife, sister, mother in law.

What you are advocating is that people like Fig and MErlin get up befor ethe sun comes up to do a draft because yr after yr you fail to make the appropriate plans.

Normally, I would just laugh and let you and merlin go at it, but expecting other people to be considerate and accomodate your schedule while not even considering what you are askign THEM to do is just....well, inconsiderate.

I am not trying to start a dogpile on you swid, and except for this draft thing every year you are a great owner. But damn dude, every yr we get poopy completely nailed down and you end up throwing the monkey wrench in.


besides that, if we are doing a redraft, it will be longer, since there will be 3 more rounds, and we haven't even rolled dice for a draft order. I ain't sticking with the finish from last yr if we are going complete redraft.

You didn't mention any specific times in this post, so you made your noon to 8;30 pm plans after this?

Wow, just wow. :cool:


I'm okay with starting the draft at any time in the morning. I'd like it a whole lot more if it was a night draft knowing that some of you fellas will be in a little better form

Wow, you know, sometimes situations change. If you really need to know my personal family business, drop me a line and I'll tell you what's up.

So to answer your question, yes, these plans came up after I said I was available. If you don't like, too fording bad.

Also, I didn't say I wouldn't be available for the entire day. I can still draft on the date we specified.

sorry, I have a hard time dealing with life lil absurdities.


I can make plans for whenever. I just wanna nail it the f down, so I can make those plans. if not, I'd rather skip the live portion altogether and start a slow draft now.


first, I wanna roll, but befor ethat let's settle on a new owner.

I nominate fig's freaky brother.

Ok, so it looks like we're down to these options:

1. Draft on Sunday the 30th in the morning. I wouldn't want to start earlier than 10 am ET (7 am PT) so it's not too rough for Wiz and figme. That would give us about 2 hours until Swid would have to go, and we'd finish with a slow draft. I don't favor this because I actually think that time is absurd for Wiz and fig, although I believe we've done that time in the past.

2. Draft on Sunday the 30th late in the evening. We would start around 9:30 pm ET. We could get in 2 or 3 hours before some would want to call it a night. Finish with a slow draft. This wouldn't be a problem for me, as I'm up late pretty much every night, but I have no idea how late some of you stay up.

3. Start a slow draft on Monday the 24th.

Quite honestly, I'd rather get up at 5:00 AM and get it all done as opposed to stringing it out. There is a dynamic involved in a live draft that's lost in the slow paced drawn out draft.

I'd like to offer up instituting a two minute timer for the live portion. That will speed things up. Essentially, we could get through 10 rounds in two hours. We are all pretty astute at this here game, well, except for TTAC.

I'll vote for option #2.

I am in complete agreement with Wiz....

I vote option 1 or 3, I get up around 3:45 a.m. and I would prefer not to have to stay up til midnight if at all possible. But before TTAC throws a hissy fit, I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get the draft done.
Just voicing my opinion.

I don't give a flying poopy what your family plans are as long as they do not effect mine. And your constant rearranging of everyone else plans to fit yours effects mine. I, myself, have to make arrangements for drafts. If it's gonna be in the early am, then I need to make sure to get up and make my family a breakfast and all their needs met, so I can devote the time needed to my fellow league members to try to complete a draft. Or maybe I can take more than the two minutes YOU recommend we use a timer becaus eof one of my family obligations popping up while we draft because your constantly changing plans alter MINE?! Maybe, with enough time, and assurance tha the plans won't change, I'll get my kids to spend the night at a grandparents house. Maybe I can do this, or that, or whatever. Maybe my plans take a lil longer to enact than yours, because all of my family members are nurses, and they all work weekends, and swing shifts, and various other things.


IMO, a man, and a parent, and a family man, makes an agreement to be somewhere at a certain date and time, and if another opportunity arises, they say, "Sorry, I'd love to, but I've made other plans for that day and time ALREADY."

As far as sending an email to you to discuss this, maybe that is the proper protocol, but I belive in not hiding behind private emails and saying what I have to say face to face, or as close to that as I can get.

I can't get misquoted. I have to stand in front of what I say. I think that is a good thing, and something lost in the impersonal contact of the internet. I would say the same thing to you face to face in a local league, and I would say it out loud and not just off to the side.

You girls can call it a hissy fit, or whatever you want to call it, but maybe other people feel the same way, maybe not. I know this, Merlin and fig are west coast people, 8am for them, is not 8am for you. Elvis, Bud and I drink a lot and for no apparent reason, so I might be half drunk and hungover as poopy that morning and really not want to get up. I'm sure all of you others are fine upstanding world citizens and don't have these potential issues, but I just f'n might.


It's not that I'm trying to be a dick, I'm just asking for ONE person to give the same considerations to me that he asks FROM me. And I'm doing it publically. I don't think that is unjust.

As always, I will make myself available whenever everyone else can be there, regardless.


FTR, my birthday is friday the 28th, my wife works the saturday and sunday after that friday and the next weekend I have two kids birthday parties to plan and carry out. I will need plenty of help from all of my family as I am either going to, coming from, or working 13 hrs a day.

So, can we nail down a time and a date, so I can make MY plans?

Lighten up, TTAC. I'm not going to piss on your complaint. You have every right to say what you feel. In all seriousness, I did have the entire day available until this new thing came up for my daughter. Again, I'm doing the best I can to make this work for all of us.

With that said, I offer a simple solution:

It actually looks like I'll be able to draft while traveling. I will be able draft on my cellphone. But I won't be able to chat at the same time in the OBC chat room. If the draft starts anytime before noon, I'll still be online at home, and will be able to chat live. After noon, I will be on the road, but will have access on to the OFTT site on my phone. I checked out the site functionality on my phone and it looks like it should run pretty smoothly.

thank you.

Not only do I need to make some arrangements for my kids for saturday night (Hoffa draft) and sunday monring (OFTT draft), but I live in florida and it's full blown hurricane season now. There are two storms brewing up out there now, but we look to be safe from them at this point.


It's gonna really screw the pooch if I have a hurricane sitting on top of me that weekend.

Remember a few yrs back when I was drafting and one was coming ashore?

Yes, that sucked. We were pretty concerned for you guys.

After all the b!tching you've done I don't care if your roof blows off and your treading water at your p.c. you'd d@mn well better be ready to draft!
Just kidding Dave, keep your head down and your water wings on!

"Sniffle" one big happy family!

Kiss my hairy arse bud!

So what's the plan? I prefer option 1, I can work with any of the options but we really need a decision.

Recap, if we start at 10 am Eastern, then it would be 9 am Central and 7 am Western. For the record, I don't have to leave my house until 12 pm Central. So, if we do start at 10 am Eastern this would give us three hours of drafting before I have to be on the road. I would be able to draft while traveling on my cellphone if we wanted to complete the draft in one day.

LOL, we've all seen that pretty butterfly! You aint got a hair on your arse!

10 a.m. eastern is really good for me! let's do this thing!

10:00 AM EDT works for me too.