Who's going to win?

Dan Henderson Vs Michael Bisping
Brock Lesnar Vs Frank Mir

Should be exciting.

Mir, Hendo, GSP

Lesnar, Hendo, GSP

...can't wait. I'm meeting up with my two best friends and going to the Phillies-Pirates game. After the game, we are going to find a place for the fight.

Never really got into it. Way too brutal for me.

I'm not sure why, but I think that Bisping is a douchebag and I will be happy if he loses.

Other than that, I just want to see some good fights.

I think it is a lot less brutal than standard boxing in many respects.


I am having a few friends over to our new house for the fights. Looking foward to it. Heading to the store shortly to pick up vittles and beverages.

Fixed, +1

werd - and I really like Hendo, I hope he puts that cheeky mf to sleep

I cannot wait - the entire card is sick, even fired up about the undercard - Jones/O'Brien, Bonnar/Coleman, Danzig/Miller, Dolloway/Lawlor

holy chit this sport absolutely rules

Mir looks to be in fantastic shape- I would love to see him submit Brock again

everyone seems to be on the Alves bandwagon and are calling for the upset , I don't see it and I think GSP takes it to the ground and wears him out

I don't think Lesnar loses again.

If the fight is on the ground, I can't see GSP losing.

9







The over/under for the number of times that Joe "Slappy" Rogan screams Unbelievable! tonight.

Geeze louise I thought Henderson killed Bisping. Dude was out cold for 5 minutes

GSP just put on a takedown clinic. There is no one left to challenge him at 170.

Lesnar didn't show any class with that WWE-style promo after the fight, but it was kinda funny. He won some people back with the Coors Light and wife lines.

There are still plenty of holes in his game, but his GnP is freakin brutal. Mir's face got rearranged.

If you liked him before, you probably love him now. If you didn't really like him before, you probably hate him now.

And if you're Dana White, you want to kiss him because his PPV draw just skyrocketed. At the same time, you don't want this to turn into the WWE and you don't need your biggest star trashing any more sponsors.

That Hendo KO was top notch. Watching Bisping's jaw pop out via a right hand was excellent.

Brock's a tool... His wife comment was lame, and is a perfect example of why some people from the Midwest make the rest of us look bad. Great talent, mostly just due to his enormous size (and the inordinate amount of quickness that he displays, considering that size), but it's very clear that he hasn't spent much time around the sport of MMA... He's got the least amount of class out of anyone in the sport, and it's not even close.

On the other hand, he definitely will be good for the UFC, in terms of PPV draws, etc. I just wish he would show a little more class, instead of portraying himself like a 280-lb. meat-head with the maturity of a 5-year-old. It's almost as if, no matter how he tells himself to act beforehand, he can't hold back after the fight and stay the least bit professional... getting in Mir's face post-fight for no reason, flipping off the entire crowd, lame comments about getting "on top of" his wife (who looks like she's 45 even AFTER several plastic surgeries, by the way).... Grow up. Seriously.

It was great to see "The Count" get knocked on his azz, and even better to see Hendo put everything he had into that last punch, leaving no doubt that Bisping wasn't getting up for at least a few minutes. Wouldn't mind seeing him get another shot against the Spider.

GSP is a machine... was impressed with Alves, though, as well. Mainly, just the way he was able to get back on his feet, after being taken down. His power and determination was impressive... at least he put up a fight and appeared to want it, as opposed to Anderson Silva's last opponent, Thales "Lay and Prey" Leites.

Too bad they only showed five fights on the PPV card, although I honestly don't know if we missed much in the ones that weren't shown... Looked to be a lot of blood on the canvas (my guess is that at least half of it came from Stephen Bonnar), but none of the names really stuck out at me as being guys I desperately wanted to watch. I wouldn't have minded seeing Lawlor choke out that punk, CB Dolloway (from a couple of seasons ago), but whatever.

Looking forward to the two cards next month, as well as Roger Huerta coming back to the Octagon in a couple of months. One a side note, I sat two rows in front of Hermes Franca on a flight from Ft. Lauderdale to Kansas City yesterday... pretty cool (I've always enjoyed his fights).

Brock sort of apologized on the ESPN post-fight show (skip to the end)

He also said he wants to fight Fedor

Please tell me your not serious? Everyone in this sport gets beat and Brock is FAR from unbeatable. The guys a beast but he'll get beat, guaranteed. The one thing I've always loved about this sport is the respect the fighters normally show after a fight. Lesnar either forgets where he's at or he's just a doo$hebag. I think it's a little of both.

Within a year were going to see one of the best matchups in UFC history when GSP moves to 185 and fights the Spider. That one will be special.

Not so much...

Lesnar unified the heavyweight championship in only his fifth professional appearance, as he bullied his way to a technical knockout against Mir -- the only man to defeat him -- in the UFC 100 main event. His tirade afterward -- which included a low blow to the UFC’s primary sponsor, Bud Light, waving his middle fingers at the audience, taunting Mir and exposing plans for a post-fight sex romp with his wife -- drew the ire of UFC President Dana White.

The 32-year-old Lesnar claimed he was headed out to drink a Coors Light because Bud Light would not pay him any money. One of the UFC’s highest-paid fighters, he made $450,000 in disclosed pay for his TKO victory against hall of famer Randy Couture at UFC 91 in November.

“I was blown away,” White said. “I don’t think in the history of the UFC we’ve had anybody do that. It’s not who we are, and, to be honest, it’s not who he is. You hang with these guys personally, and you get to know them. If he was a dick, I’d tell you right now this guy is a psycho and I don’t know what I’m going to do with him. He’s not. He’s a smart guy. The sponsorship thing was the craziest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.”

Lesnar’s antics drudged up memories of his days as a World Wrestling Entertainment superstar, when showboating and pushing the envelope of taste were encouraged and profitable. White claimed he confronted the apologetic champion in his dressing room after he left the Octagon.

“Brock went so far over the top, I can’t even put it into words,” White said. “WWE -- that’s what it is. We had a talk. We talked like men, and he said he was sorry. He said, ‘I’m embarrassed by what I said.’ I take his word for it this time.”





That was absolutely the Hollywood Hendo we've all grown to love in Pride. Now if he could just stick to his damn game play he can beat Anderson. He beat him in a round, but deviated from the plan and was tapped later. Hendo is the matchup nightmare for Spider, and god I hope he brings the belt back. I thank Bisping for waking up for what looked like for a while, a bored Henderson. He as vicious as I've ever seen him.

I'd still give the p4p title to Miguel Torres, but GSP and Machida are far and away the best that the UFC has. Thigao is great, but is a one trick pony with his standup. I thought it was funny that he didn't even try to sprawl on GSP's takedowns. The dude gets much respect though from his ability to muscle out of being on the ground several times. He was definatly stronger than GSP, but GSP didn't seem too concerned. The dudes wrestling is great, and his control from the ground maybe even better.

I don't know what you wanted Mir to do, you've got to remember that Lesnar entered the cage around 295 to Mir's 245. That's equal to BJ Penn or Kenny Florian facing Anderson Silva. Lesnar shouldn't be fighting guys that size, but he has to, as there are 2-3 guys in the world that are his size. Lesnar is going to take down anyone he wants. I still would like to see a prepared Couture face off with him again, as he was dead even before he was clipped in the side of the head. For Mir to be giving up that much weight, have a hematoma lanced off his head and have his knee jacked up, I think he put up a valliant effort. It's going to be tough to beat Brock at this point. It's not going to be a ground game guy that does it. It will be a world class striker or another Brut. I have to think Shane Carwin will be the enxt to face him after he beats Cain... The dude is 6'8 and walks around comfortably at 265, so he's going to be somewhat even in the freakish size catagory.

Another guy, if he can return to form that has a chance is the great Mirco Cro Cop. The dude isn't easy to take down, and can send Lesnars head into the third row if he lands a high kick to the head. I give the likes of Cain, Gonzoga, and the Kongo's of the world no chance against him. He's a legit talent, too bad he brings what he does to the post fight interviews.
He's going to single handedly set MMA back years from the respect approach. 99% of the fighters respect the sport, where they came from, and there opponent after the fight. Once the fight is over, you at least shake a hand, but not him. His antics are going to be the target of boxing diehards and anti-MMA fans ie John McCain. Guys who have been busting ass to get MMA taken seriously and respected as a sport are being hurt by this. People who say MMA is idiocrocy now have solid footing because of what this guy is doing, and its sad. I can only hope Dana White's post fight discussion changes some things and he goes back to his pre wwe form. I have no problem talking trash pre fight, but once it's over, show some respect to your opponent, and more importantly, the sport.


I think you're going to be disappointed greatly. If it happens, it will be destruction...
Penn and GSP are both dead even talent wise. GSP is 20-25 pounds heavier and stronger. If they're both equally as skilled, the stronger guy is going to win. Silva will do to GSP what GSP did to Penn. GSP is a big 170, Spider is a massive 185. I doubt it happens though as I think Silva fights fights Forrest, Hendo and if he beats Hendo again, will retire. If he losees, will fight Hendo again to try and go out on top. Anderson has said several times he has a experation date fight wise, and will probably be done within 2-3 more fights. If something were to happen and he gets passed these fights, I think Wand Silva would be the pairing. No need to put GSP in that situation.

0% chance of Fedor ever fighting in the UFC. Fedor has already said that Dana would have to lift the constrictive contract that is the standard. Fedor will not back down from being able to compete in Sambo tournys in Mother Russia, and only wants a one fight contract... Dana will never do that as the risk is too high that he takes the belt and leaves the UFC forever...
Oh, that and he wants 1 million+ per fight. Dana isn't going to open up that pandora's box.

I was saying he won't get beat again by Mir, dummy.

Thiago has zero ground game and got back to his feet what... 4 or 5 times? Anderson Silva is a legit BJJ black belt, so I'm not sure that comparision works for you.

Just like Dana White said Vitor Belfort was next in line to fight Anderson, even though he's under contract with another organization.
Just like Dana White said Allister Overeem was headed to the UFC.
I appreciate your attemp to get under my skin, but I don't care enough to be bothered by it. Check out some of the past interviews with Fedor/Fedors handlers talking about Dana and the UFC instead of linking to yahoo which is about as realiable as some tabloid trash.
Fedor's handlers are batcrap insane. They've long said that they want close to a million a fight, which won't happen, especially when he's handing out 400,000 grand to his biggest fighters on his biggest cards. They've also maintained that they don't want to limit Fedor to only competing in the UFC. He wants to be free to fight in Sambo tournements around the world, and doesn't want to do anything over a one fight contract.
Fedor has said that he woudl come to the UFC for one fight, and pit his WAMMA belt against the UFC HW belt for one fight, something that doesn't make sense from a business standpoint for Dana White and company.
Fedor will not sign anything limiting him or something that would bind him to anything lengthy. Dana White is aware of the very good chances that Fedor wins a fight against Brock Lesnar. For Dana to do anything that would allow his belt to won by someone who then exits the UFC isn't a smart business decision.
One other part that doesn't make sense is the payout. At this point, Dana White and the UFC are still peaking. They don't need to go out and pay Fedor a ton of money to come in and fight Lesnar. Is it what you, me, or someone who's been watching this for years would like? Yes. Is it something that the DudeBro's would care about? Probably not. They're going to watch Brock Lesnar regardless if it's against Emilianinko, Carwin, Filpovich, or Gonzaga. Point is that the Dudebro's are going to watch no matter who Lesnar fights, why pay Fedor 600,000 to fight Lesnar when he can pay Carwin 50,000 and pocket the rest?
I'm all for Fedor going to the UFC for a few fights, but I just don't see it. Dana White and Fedor's handlers have never gotten along, and I'm willing to bet that they never will.

Penn is a much smaller fighter than GSP. We will never know what would happen if they were the same size. Yes, GSP beats BJ Penn at 170. That is true. The first fight is debatable, and if you can't even say that, well, you need to remove GSP's balls from your mouth. The second fight was destruction, and I'm not sure why you think you deserve a medal for picking that. Congrats, you picked the bigger stronger fighter to win. Vegas thought it was going to work out that way as well. You didn't really prove anything to me, as I was going against the grain and taking the underdog.
And the part about Gracie defied this and GSP is doing it now makes no sense...
Gracie fought guys MUCH bigger than he. GSP beat a much smaller Penn, and other guys in his weight class. When has GSP ever moved up to fight anyone?
Oh, and if he is the greatest ever, how do you explain in his last 9 fights, he's had four decisions, one of which was a split, and a loss? Meanwhile, I'm looking at some guy named Miguel Torress who hasn't lost since 2004, has a record of 37-1 and only had two decisions since 04? The other best fighter in the world is some guy named Fedor who is 30-1, and the one loss is weak because he was cut and officials stopped the fight.

You've got to tap the breaks on GSP being the best fighter in the world. I've seen GSP get stopped, beaten bad by Hughes and sent to queer street courtesy of Serra. Fedor and Torress haven't had those happen. GSP is great, but not the best.

Penn is a much smaller fighter than GSP. We will never know what would happen if they were the same size. Yes, GSP beats BJ Penn at 170. That is true. The first fight is debatable, and if you can't even say that, well, you need to remove GSP's balls from your mouth. The second fight was destruction, and I'm not sure why you think you deserve a medal for picking that. Congrats, you picked the bigger stronger fighter to win. Vegas thought it was going to work out that way as well. You didn't really prove anything to me, as I was going against the grain and taking the underdog.
And the part about Gracie defied this and GSP is doing it now makes no sense...
Gracie fought guys MUCH bigger than he. GSP beat a much smaller Penn, and other guys in his weight class. When has GSP ever moved up to fight anyone?
Oh, and if he is the greatest ever, how do you explain in his last 9 fights, he's had four decisions, one of which was a split, and a loss? Meanwhile, I'm looking at some guy named Miguel Torress who hasn't lost since 2004, has a record of 37-1 and only had two decisions since 04? The other best fighter in the world is some guy named Fedor who is 30-1, and the one loss is weak because he was cut and officials stopped the fight.

You've got to tap the breaks on GSP being the best fighter in the world. I've seen GSP get stopped, beaten bad by Hughes and sent to queer street courtesy of Serra. Fedor and Torress haven't had those happen. GSP is great, but not the best.

The UFC did not pay Brock Lesnar 3 million last night. The numbers that I saw was 300,000 plus knockout of the night bonus. You show me where Brock was paid that much from the UFC.

The UFC made 5.1 Mill of the gate. Do you really think Dana White who pays elite PPV draws 300,000-400,000 for big fights 3 million? Instead of posting cute emoticons, please show me where you pulled this number out of... Affliction, who pays way more to the big stars gave Andre Arlovski 1.5 mil, which I believe is the biggest ever.

Same yahoo link. UFC 98 paid out just over 1,000,000 to all fighters. I have a feeling it's closer the the UFC paid out 3 million to all the fighters.

And, do you always have to be a cunt on the message boards? I did miss you though.

Nevada discloses all of the figher payouts to the public, so we'll know for sure soon enough. I have an extremely hard time believing he made 3 mil. Sherdog forums would have blown up twice by now if that was a fact.

LOL!!! +1

UFC 87 Lesnar with fight bonus was reported to have raked in 500,000. Which has his win bonus included. Tell me why a savy business man who has Lesnar under contract at a set price per fight would multiply his payout by six? I have read that Dana White and the gaming board have not released the numbers, so your yahoo link means next to zero right now. We'll see though.

Lesnar's an ass. I hope that White was seriously pissed. I've been concerned that the UFC would become more WWE-ish as it got popular. I hope that White puts the kibosh on it.

That being said, Lesnar learned a bit from his last fight with Mir. He didn't rush anything, and he delivered punches with purpose. Remeber all those nougies Lesnar hit Mir with the first time. (I'm not suggestsing that they didn't do some damages, but he could have wound up a little bit and done more damage.)

I'd like somebody to test Lesnar's chin.

Me & my friends got to 'Fox & Hounds' in Philly right as the bell rang for the Hendo-Bisping fight.....perfect timing. The bar was packed and the atmosphere was great. I absolutely loved seeing Hendo knock out Bisping, and so did the entire bar crowd. GSP showed how unstoppable his takedowns are. The fact that he had little to zero wrestling skills when he started, and the fact that he might be the best wrestler in MMA now lets you know how great of an athlete this guy is. I was also impressed with the heart and strength that Thiago showed. There was no quit in him, but, he simply couldn't stop the takedowns. As for the Lesnar fight, it is a damn shame that he had to ruin his great performance by acting like a complete ass after it was over. I hope Dana White puts a quit stop to that garbage.

naw man Lesnar and GSP are on the back end with a % or PPV buys - total comp for Brock is about 3 mil with ppv and sponsor loot

Lesnar was going to be a big draw, had some leverage and it looks like he negotiated a nice contract.

Estimates were 1.3 million ppv buys which is A TON of dough

Lesnar and GSP net 400K each for UFC 100.

We were not talking about sponserships from jack links or Death Throne, we were talking what Dana and the Hunt's pay him per fight.

The total base fighter payroll for the blockbuster pay-per-view (PPV) event, which attracted an unofficial crowd of nearly 11,000 attendees and the second-highest gate in UFC history with $5.1 million, was $1,790,000.

I get the salaries for the fights

you are leaving out their PPV% and endorsement loot they get - which for Brock is about 3 mil total comp.

dude - really don't care that much and I don't want to get in between some pissing match between you and private ryan

do you not consider Brocks PPV% on the backend compensation for the fight?

Where did you get he gets a percentage of PPV buys? Have you read or heard Tito talk about why and when his problems with Dana arose? It had to do with not getting a cut of the PPV buys.

more on UFC 100 salaries

Endorsements are not paid by the UFC. Jack Links, Deathrone and others, but not UFC.

UFC 100 Payouts

UFC 100, the UFC's heavily promoted and long-awaited milestone event, drew a soldout crowd estimated at 11,000 and – assuming the preliminary figures hold up – the second-largest gate in UFC history with $5.1 million in ticket sales.

A few disclaimers regarding the salaries can be found below. However, it's also worth noting that fighters such as Lesnar and St. Pierre also earn a portion of the pay-per-view revenue. In fact, Lesnar reportedly will make approximately $3 million from the fight even before the majority of his sponsorship money is tallied.


carry on

If any site other than one under the yahoo umbrella reports he made three mill then I'll be shocked. I'm extremely skeptical on this one.

Jake Rossen is now reporting that Lesnar and GSP both get cuts of the ppv%. I'll be damned. I bet Tito is crys himself to sleep at night.

so as usual you were wrong?


sigh - my posts got deleted. Must have said something true, that someone didnt like.....

I bet you got off on it, didn't you?
What a sad strange person you are.