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SLAYER
I'm thinking Urban has a little something for you on your first visit to the Swamp.
SheikYerbuti
I'm seriously considering betting FLA and laying the 30. . .
SLAYER
QUOTE (SheikYerbuti @ 9/16/09 6:36pm) *
I'm seriously considering betting FLA and laying the 30. . .

Just do it. Fla 56 ten 10
detlef
I'm probably jinxing my theory here, but this game has trap written all over it. On one side, you've got an absolutely loaded team returning not only all 11 starters but 9 of it's primary back-ups from a D that held OU to 14 pts as well as Jesus himself at QB. On the other side, you've got a perennial underachiever who finally has little enough talent that nobody says that any more and a coach who won't shut up.

In other words, this game will be waayyy closer than people think and may include a biblical upset, just because that's how things work out when any and all logical arguments point to the opposite.
SLAYER
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/16/09 7:43pm) *
I'm probably jinxing my theory here, but this game has trap written all over it. On one side, you've got an absolutely loaded team returning not only all 11 starters but 9 of it's primary back-ups from a D that held OU to 14 pts as well as Jesus himself at QB. On the other side, you've got a perennial underachiever who finally has little enough talent that nobody says that any more and a coach who won't shut up.

In other words, this game will be waayyy closer than people think and may include a biblical upset, just because that's how things work out when any and all logical arguments point to the opposite.

Thanks for the opinion, now go back and cook something. Trap smap Florida will destroy them, trust me they had this one circled for a few months now.
untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/16/09 8:43pm) *
I'm probably jinxing my theory here, but this game has trap written all over it. On one side, you've got an absolutely loaded team returning not only all 11 starters but 9 of it's primary back-ups from a D that held OU to 14 pts as well as Jesus himself at QB. On the other side, you've got a perennial underachiever who finally has little enough talent that nobody says that any more and a coach who won't shut up.

In other words, this game will be waayyy closer than people think and may include a biblical upset, just because that's how things work out when any and all logical arguments point to the opposite.


I really don't think this is a trap game for Florida. They've had two warm-up games leading into this one and they play Kentucky the week after Tennessee. After Kentucky, the Gators have a bye week. They have nothing but focus on Tennessee. Kiffin has accused Meyer of being a cheater and made comments about singing Rocky Top after beating Florida. If you don't think Meyer and the team remembers this, remember how Meyer ended the game against Georgia last season. The Swamp is a particularly loud stadium for the players because the stands are set relatively close to the field. In addition, the game is a 3:30 kickoff. It will be ungodly hot in that stadium. The temperature on the field will be 100+ degrees.

I don't gamble. It's not my thing. But in the College Pick em, I took Florida and laid the points. This game may be close in the first half, although that would surprise me. The second half will be all Florida.
detlef
QUOTE (SLAYER @ 9/16/09 8:48pm) *
Thanks for the opinion, now go back and cook something. Trap smap Florida will destroy them, trust me they had this one circled for a few months now.



QUOTE (untateve @ 9/16/09 9:03pm) *
I really don't think this is a trap game for Florida. They've had two warm-up games leading into this one and they play Kentucky the week after Tennessee. After Kentucky, the Gators have a bye week. They have nothing but focus on Tennessee. Kiffin has accused Meyer of being a cheater and made comments about singing Rocky Top after beating Florida. If you don't think Meyer and the team remembers this, remember how Meyer ended the game against Georgia last season. The Swamp is a particularly loud stadium for the players because the stands are set relatively close to the field. In addition, the game is a 3:30 kickoff. It will be ungodly hot in that stadium. The temperature on the field will be 100+ degrees.

I don't gamble. It's not my thing. But in the College Pick em, I took Florida and laid the points. This game may be close in the first half, although that would surprise me. The second half will be all Florida.

laughing.gif Thanks guys for your cogent rebuttals to my non argument.
untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/16/09 10:18pm) *
laughing.gif Thanks guys for your cogent rebuttals to my non argument.


You said you thought it was a trap game and I disagreed and offered reasons for doing so. No more, no less.
SLAYER
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/16/09 9:18pm) *
laughing.gif Thanks guys for your cogent rebuttals to my non argument.

your welcome and I knew unta would be along soon to backme up biggrin.gif
Rockerbraves
Florida's good, but not sure if they are good enough to name a score. Plus I don't think Coach Meyers is that immature to risk his players health by keeping them in the game late if the outcome is secured. And I don't think Coach Meyers is that stupid either. He knows his team has the upper hand this season, but how about next season or the next. Unlike many of his starters who won't be here next year Coach Meyer will, so I don't see the big advantage of deliberately running up the score against the Vols. Granted it could happen if the Vols have alot of turnovers, but I just don't see Tebow throwing the ball around late in the game if the score is in hand just to teach Kiffin a lesson.

Now if the Gators do give Kiffin a well derserve spanking, you won't hear me complaining. glare.gif
untateve
QUOTE (Rockerbraves @ 9/17/09 9:12am) *
Florida's good, but not sure if they are good enough to name a score. Plus I don't think Coach Meyers is that immature to risk his players health by keeping them in the game late if the outcome is secured. And I don't think Coach Meyers is that stupid either. He knows his team has the upper hand this season, but how about next season or the next. Unlike many of his starters who won't be here next year Coach Meyer will, so I don't see the big advantage of deliberately running up the score against the Vols. Granted it could happen if the Vols have alot of turnovers, but I just don't see Tebow throwing the ball around late in the game if the score is in hand just to teach Kiffin a lesson.

Now if the Gators do give Kiffin a well derserve spanking, you won't hear me complaining. glare.gif


I think you're right about Meyer risking players. However, if Florida is fortunate enough to have a sizable lead in the 2nd half, I think he puts Brantley in and lets him throw the ball around a bit. You know...just to get him a bit of game experience.
detlef
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/16/09 9:41pm) *
You said you thought it was a trap game and I disagreed and offered reasons for doing so. No more, no less.

So, what part of my specific argument did you find issue with? The part where I said FL is absolutely loaded or the part where I said UT isn't very good and their coach won't shut up?
wildcat2334
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/16/09 6:03pm) *
I really don't think this is a trap game for Florida. They've had two warm-up games leading into this one and they play Kentucky the week after Tennessee. After Kentucky, the Gators have a bye week. They have nothing but focus on Tennessee. Kiffin has accused Meyer of being a cheater and made comments about singing Rocky Top after beating Florida. If you don't think Meyer and the team remembers this, remember how Meyer ended the game against Georgia last season. The Swamp is a particularly loud stadium for the players because the stands are set relatively close to the field. In addition, the game is a 3:30 kickoff. It will be ungodly hot in that stadium. The temperature on the field will be 100+ degrees.

I don't gamble. It's not my thing. But in the College Pick em, I took Florida and laid the points. This game may be close in the first half, although that would surprise me. The second half will be all Florida.



werd - trap game? laughing.gif sorry Det this ain't no trap game.

this game is the exact opposite of a trap game. A trap game only comes into play when there is a big time game the following week, and a team like Tenn gets overlooked - Kentucky? uh no plus throw in the fact Urban and the boys have been looking forward to this one since camp started - he wants to wipe that chit-eating grin off little Lane's mug

you don't gamble? did GTS let you in the college pick em on scholarship?

personally, I had to throw in $50................


untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/17/09 10:17am) *
So, what part of my specific argument did you find issue with? The part where I said FL is absolutely loaded or the part where I said UT isn't very good and their coach won't shut up?


Specifically, I disagreed with you when you called it a trap game and went on to explain why I did not think it was a trap game.
untateve
QUOTE (wildcat2334 @ 9/17/09 11:53am) *
werd - trap game? laughing.gif sorry Det this ain't no trap game.

this game is the exact opposite of a trap game. A trap game only comes into play when there is a big time game the following week, and a team like Tenn gets overlooked - Kentucky? uh no plus throw in the fact Urban and the boys have been looking forward to this one since camp started - he wants to wipe that chit-eating grin off little Lane's mug

you don't gamble? did GTS let you in the college pick em on scholarship?

personally, I had to throw in $50................


$50 to make 5 picks ATS per week for an entire season is not something I consider gambling. I see it as a season long competition among some other huddlers with there being a prize for 1st and 2nd place. Sort of like a fantasy football fee.

I would consider it gambling if someone showed up here and said something like, "If you're so sure that Florida will beat the spread against Tenn, let's bet on it. I'll take Tenn and the points for $100. Put your money where your mouth is!" I would not take this bet. I allow that I could be wrong and I do not enjoy losing money--even though I strongly believe I am right. Ask Kid Cid about my gambling habits when we were at Mohegan Sun together a few years ago.

Perhaps it's all semantics but that's good enough for me.
detlef
rolleyes.gif

I guess I've been pwned. Next time I'll make a better non-argument.
untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/17/09 12:10pm) *
rolleyes.gif

I guess I've been pwned. Next time I'll make a better non-argument.


I wasn't trying to 'own' you. I was simply disagreeing with your assessment that Florida-Tenn is a 'trap' game. As I said, nothing more and nothing less. I have found that reasonable people can disagree.
detlef
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/17/09 12:12pm) *
I wasn't trying to 'own' you. I was simply disagreeing with your assessment that Florida-Tenn is a 'trap' game. As I said, nothing more and nothing less. I have found that reasonable people can disagree.

Steve,

The part I find funny is that the beginning and end to my argument is that there is absolutely no logical reason to expect UT to have a chance in this game, and that can be exactly the time when the planets align and crazy things happen. Then guys start coming out of the woodwork debating that as if I was actually presenting some logical theory.

Note I didn't mention once that Florida would be looking past UT or not be motivated. Rather, when it seems like everyone who pays any attention to College Football is fixated on one particular game and are certain that it's going to be an absolute beatdown, that's when the fates step in and make us go, "huh?" That's the trap part.
detlef
But Steve,

Tell you what. I'll put up some Immort Ale waiting for you the next time you visit your brother vs whatever you want to put up (so it seems less like gambling) that UT doesn't lose by 30. Just because I can't summon the fates and not back it up, after all.
untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/17/09 12:26pm) *
But Steve,

Tell you what. I'll put up some Immort Ale waiting for you the next time you visit your brother vs whatever you want to put up (so it seems less like gambling) that UT doesn't lose by 30. Just because I can't summon the fates and not back it up, after all.


I'm really not into gambling and it does not add anything to the game for me. I would bet a sigline for a determined amount of time, say 1-2 weeks (sigline goes for the exact spread which I believe is 28.5 pts.).
detlef
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/17/09 1:07pm) *
I'm really not into gambling and it does not add anything to the game for me. I would bet a sigline for a determined amount of time, say 1-2 weeks (sigline goes for the exact spread which I believe is 28.5 pts.).

Now that Waterman changed his stupid sig, mine looks. well stupid, so I'm more than happy to make that deal. And yes, I believe 28.5 is the line.
untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/17/09 2:24pm) *
Now that Waterman changed his stupid sig, mine looks. well stupid, so I'm more than happy to make that deal. And yes, I believe 28.5 is the line.



untateve takes Florida and gives detlef 28.5 points and Tennessee. The winner creates a sig line that the loser must utilize for a period of 1 week. During that time, the loser must make at least 20 posts on thehuddle forums.

Is this bet acceptable and accepted?
detlef
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/17/09 1:57pm) *
untateve takes Florida and gives detlef 28.5 points and Tennessee. The winner creates a sig line that the loser must utilize for a period of 1 week. During that time, the loser must make at least 20 posts on thehuddle forums.

Is this bet acceptable and accepted?

I'm a bit concerned that a light poster like myself will have to post as many as 20 times in a week, but I'll accept.
untateve
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/17/09 3:44pm) *
I'm a bit concerned that a light poster like myself will have to post as many as 20 times in a week, but I'll accept.


According to our profiles, my average posts come to 3.86 per day while your average posts come to 5.16 per day. I think 20 should be doable.
detlef
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/17/09 2:53pm) *
According to our profiles, my average posts come to 3.86 per day while your average posts come to 5.16 per day. I think 20 should be doable.

Attempt at self-effacing humor did not work.
Kid Cid
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/17/09 12:04pm) *
$50 to make 5 picks ATS per week for an entire season is not something I consider gambling. I see it as a season long competition among some other huddlers with there being a prize for 1st and 2nd place. Sort of like a fantasy football fee.

I would consider it gambling if someone showed up here and said something like, "If you're so sure that Florida will beat the spread against Tenn, let's bet on it. I'll take Tenn and the points for $100. Put your money where your mouth is!" I would not take this bet. I allow that I could be wrong and I do not enjoy losing money--even though I strongly believe I am right. Ask Kid Cid about my gambling habits when we were at Mohegan Sun together a few years ago.

Perhaps it's all semantics but that's good enough for me.

Werd. untateve is the only person I know that would cash in exactly $11 for each hand of blackjack he wanted to play. :loi:
Bonedaddies
Will Tebo have to come with the..."Nobody will work harder....." speech in two more quarters? Only up 7 at the break, Eric Berry is a beast!
Boomer Sooner
loved the error analogy from the broadcaster. Missing that tackle for loss, cost Tenn 7 pts.

Kiffin will turn Tenn around, and his dad put in an excellent game plan.

FLA doesnt look the same without Harvin. That kid is the reason they won that Champ last yr. He is surely missed.
untateve
I feel very lucky that Florida won this game. I think there is a reason that monte kiffin is known as a defensive guru.

I await my sig line from detlef.

schit.
SLAYER
I admit detlef was correct. and yes Perry is a beast.
SheikYerbuti
QUOTE (SheikYerbuti @ 9/16/09 7:36pm) *
I'm seriously considering betting FLA and laying the 30. . .


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detlef
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/19/09 6:30pm) *
I feel very lucky that Florida won this game. I think there is a reason that monte kiffin is known as a defensive guru.

I await my sig line from detlef.

schit.

Funny, right after I made the bet, it dawned on me that I was going to have to come up with some smack talk sig line if Tenn only lost by, say, only 15 or something. Nothing that truly inspires much chest beating. I can also hardly take a victory lap around this thread just because I was the only one saying it would be close, simply because my only argument was, "you never know".

So, Steve, how's about you just go ahead and use the sentence in bold from your quoted post.

I'll have to take my satisfaction in more tangible assets (a bottle of good wine) won from another friend who's a FL fan. shades.gif
untateve
done.

I changed "this game" to 'Tennessee' so that the sig line made sense.
'canes2004
QUOTE (untateve @ 9/20/09 7:43am) *
done.

I changed "this game" to 'Tennessee' so that the sig line made sense.


Could you of made it any smaller? wink.gif
untateve
corrected.
Rockerbraves
QUOTE (detlef @ 9/20/09 11:16am) *
I can also hardly take a victory lap around this thread just because I was the only one saying it would be close, glare.gif simply because my only argument was, "you never know".

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