5.4 Scoring
Scoring will be decimal based. Touchdowns scored by any player on an active line-up are counted. (Example: Tim Brown returns a punt for a TD, he is in that weeks line-up as a WR, he receives credit for the TD.) Offensive players who become "defensive" players after a fumble or interception DO NOT receive credit for a tackle. Nor do they receive credit for fumbles caused, nor fumbles recovered, after change of possession. Those players playing “both ways” (i.e. snaps as both a defensive player and an offensive player) will receive both offensive and defensive points.
Those players playing “both ways” (i.e. snaps as both a defensive player and an offensive player) will receive both offensive and defensive points



Randy Moss caught an INT this weekend, but did not get credit for it. It states in the rules he should have. Everyone wanna chime in on how this should be handeled? It could lead to a change in the outcome of the game.

"Those players playing “both ways” (i.e. snaps as both a defensive player and an offensive player) will receive both offensive and defensive points."

The play was a standard offensive play, and Moss was lined up on Defense, the same as a CB or S. The rules clearly state he is to get those points.

+1

FWIW it doesn't look like it will change the outcome unless INTs are worth 5 points

That was why I stated it could affect the outcome AFTER stat changes were made (today). If I get a tackle or 2 additional, or if he loses points, I have a chance at winning.

However, wether or not it changes the outcome, it still needs to be addressed in the scoring, no? What if it DOES affect the outcome of a game in the future?

I have update the scoring rules now so that each position is scored for the same categories. I'm not sure how to, or if we can, distinguish that a player played the the snap on the opposite side of is normal position (i.e. Moss lining on up Def).

At any rate, scoring has been updated and have been applied.

See? Thomas Davis had a bunch of stat changes, and the INT gave me the win. Actually, even without the INT, I would have won, but just barely.

On the coat tails of this thread, I want to bring up a stat change issue. In week 2 the stat changes were not applied, it's the only week they have not been applied. I know I said that if we miss a week that we're not going back- but I want to be fair to all teams here.

I would like to go back and apply week 2 stat changes so that we're consistent. Does anyone have an issue with me doing this?

Without looking at scoring for any teams, I think they should be applied. Bottom line is it was a simple mistake to not apply them, and since we do it every week, we should just apply them.

Thoughts from everyone else?

Surely he should get the INT, he was playing a defense position, i dont see any room for a debate here really.

Vrabel should get all those TD's, same thing

I say apply them....

What about the stat changes for week 2?

We ran into this same problem in AFL, where you can't distinguish something like getting a tackle on offense or a tackle on defense with MFL scoring, so we changed the rules to just apply any points to all positions. Sure, you get a WR or a QB with a tackle every few weeks, but it was a change that saved us big head aches when it came to things like Moss playing defense.
Maybe something we could talk about in the offseason?

As for applying all the scoring changes, if you do it every week and forgot one week, you might as well do it.

This is how I've set MFL up now too, one set of rules that applies to all positions. I think what needs to happen next is just updating the rules to reflect our configuration abilities/constrictions in MFL.

will that change an outcome?

if it does then thats another issue, you cant change something to change the outcome so long after the matchup

Unsure if it would or wouldn't change an outcome, there were some close games that week. After seeing a game overturned this week because of stat changes, I'm feeling the right and fair thing to do is be sure they're applied every week. At this point all week's but week 2 have had stat corrections applied.

Also, would it be right for a team that won to get that W for points that his players didn't actually earn? Just sayin'

Maybe if it changes anything the commishs each get an extra L for screwing up.

j/k- you guys do a great job (well except for peep)

ANywho- IMO they should be applied to all weeks and if anyone forgets again they get a 1 way balloon-ride with a 6 y.o.

We have 5 people that have weighed in- 4 have said apply the changes, 1 seems in the middle.

In the interest of getting this resolved, I'm going to apply week 2 stat changes.

As you can see the stat changes did affect things. Big3 I aplogize that this change will result in you losing a game here, but I stand by my assessment that this was the right thing to do being consistent. Had the oversight not occurred you would still have lost the game, just not 3 weeks later. I realize it sucks, don't blame you if your pissed- but this is the right/consistent thing to do.

Oh and there was no 6 y.o. on that balloon. So maybe thats just some crazy fantasy thing you got goin on.


I agree. Regardless of the outcome, it needed to be done.
Big said "will that change an outcome?

if it does then thats another issue, you cant change something to change the outcome so long after the matchup"

What does it matter? That wasnt the question being asked. Why apply the changes? You do that to correct the games. You dont ONLY apply them if the games dont change. Applying the changes was the right thing to do, regardless of how long ago it was.

Going forward, like Tony said, we will not forget to do these. I know some teams suck so bad they need changes to win (like mine), but regardless, they need to be applied.

Not gonna complain but we had this issue in another league where the scoring was wrong, and we decided not to change it for the weeks that were past 2 weeks since it should have been brought up then.

If i find a mistake from last year can we change rankings for then too?

just sayin

Uhh... Last year is not the same season. Thats a horrible comparison. Had you said week 1, I would agree that yes, we should change it. Go back and check last year though. Sure we can change it just for you.

If it didnt involve you, Im sure you wouldnt even care. It isnt bout 1 team, it is about keeping the leagues integrity. We do things a certain way, so they are always done that way. We forgot - our mistake. But that doesnt mean it should never be changed.

whatever dude, i said it was fine.

I honestly had no idea i would be affected when i said it could be a problem taking back a win from 4 weeks ago from someone.

If you cant see how that is debatable then whatever.

I dont mind changing it to a loss, BUT it should have been brought up after that week, is all i am saying.

In another league the exact same scenario happened, and since it was brought up 4 weeks later past weeks werent changed and the league agreed to it

You said it was fine, but then went on asking to change stats from last year (see below). Thats silly.



And as for bringing it up that week, dont you think if we caught it that week, we would have brought it up that week? I have already said it was a simple over sight. Forgive and forget, just like we have lived and learned.

Whatever happened to the love you had for me? I thought we were starting to become best friends of all time...