yah up here n the north woods we aint got no 100 pound deer we have 300 pound deer , and bears and elk and well..... land you dont have to lease to hunt.... but we aint got a clew how to hunt it  
i can and do as to many others up here in the the north.....
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Because northerners know how to take a trashed and abused house and fix it... then sell it for a profit.

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Ummm, hunting and fishing are not a Southern traditions.  They're a pretty big deal around these parts as well.
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You also have trespassing ***** that gun down unarmed hunters and then play the race card..
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I wil give waterman 500 bucks if he will walk to the county seat and stand in the courthouse lawn at noon tomorrow and wipe his butt with the confederate battle flag.
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You also have trespassing gooks that gun down unarmed hunters and then play the race card..
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you must be drinken agian spain... hate to tell yah but whitey tresspasses more the the asian population
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Totally unnecessary.
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Totally unnecessary.
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I agree!  He should have just left when he was discovered trespassing rather than kill everyone person he could find..
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I meant the racial slur.
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You are offended that I called a asshat who decides to kill 6 people because they object to his trespassing on their land, a bad name? [right][snapback]625501[/snapback][/right]

IMO, if a mofo kills innocent people in cold blood, then he deserves ALOT more than a racial slur, no matter if he is a white redneck, asian, black, red, or purple..
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I have poached a time or two back in the day.  But I never felt the need to kill the owners of the propety that I was trespassing on..
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The Confederate flag is a symbol used by traitors who hate America--no real American would ever fly one, let alone try to wear one to the prom.

(For the record, I would let her wear it to the prom).
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Yes, his race is irrelevant.
I agree.  The courts will take care of that.
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I wil give waterman 500 bucks if he will walk to the county seat and stand in the courthouse lawn at noon tomorrow and wipe his butt with the confederate battle flag.
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They would be too drunk to shoot me or even catch me.
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In the area of literature, white Southern men have contributed a great deal. Musically, cuisine, and other so-called "cultural" contributions have come or been borrowed mostly from Southern African Americans.

The Southern white man did give the country born again Christian fundamentalism. So they got that going for them. 
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The Southern white man did give the country born again Christian fundamentalism. So they got that going for them. 
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Are you saying that they would not offer the same amount of respect for her culture as they demand for their own?  Personally, I think she was stupid to make the dress and wear it, but if this should not be allowed, should african americans be allowed to wear their multicolored robes and such to school activities?
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You also have trespassing gooks that gun down unarmed hunters and then play the race card..
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Does the confederate flag represent more than the southern states defending their right to own slaves?

What the school did was wrong, and her choice of dress should not affect her graduation, attending the prom, or any such silly thing.  Bad form by the school officials.

However, Perch, asking that a heritage that was dedicated to the enslavement of a race of people be respected is insane.  Asking that the race of people whose enslavement a particular symbol stood for respect another person wearing that symbol is ludicrous.

It is her right to wear it, and to subsequently suffer the ire and disrespect of individuals as they see fit.  It is also tasteless and crude. lastly, a comparison between what the Confederate flag represents and what multi colored robes represent is just plain old silly
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Ahhh - there's that proud tradition of the Southern gentleman shining through!
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Do you really believe that our heritage was dedicated to the enslavement of a race of people?  This is the ignorance about southern culture to which I refer.  You Yanks are not only arrogante and rude, your stupid..
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If that's not the case then it's very strange that everyone I know who flies that flag in their yard and on their trucks, don't like black people.
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Actually, that murdering scumbag was not from the south, unless it was south vietnam..
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I dont know anyone who flies that flag.  Again, I see it more in the north than I do down here which is odd to say the least..
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What does that have to do with anything?
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Does the confederate flag represent more than the southern states defending their right to own slaves?

What the school did was wrong, and her choice of dress should not affect her graduation, attending the prom, or any such silly thing.  Bad form by the school officials.

However, Perch, asking that a heritage that was dedicated to the enslavement of a race of people be respected is insane.  Asking that the race of people whose enslavement a particular symbol stood for respect another person wearing that symbol is ludicrous.

It is her right to wear it, and to subsequently suffer the ire and disrespect of individuals as they see fit.  It is also tasteless and crude. lastly, a comparison between what the Confederate flag represents and what multi colored robes represent is just plain old silly
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You said he was a southern gentlemen..
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No, I said you were displaying your Southern gentleman traditions by suggesting that the dude's race had anything to do with his crime.  Goofball.
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No, I said you were displaying your Southern gentleman traditions by suggesting that the dude's race had anything to do with his crime.  Goofball.
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The Southern white man did give the country born again Christian fundamentalism. So they got that going for them. 
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that's not really true.  the guys i can think of....jonathan edwards, darby, scofield...were yankees.  it just really caught on down there.

oh and you forgot nascar.
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Should the Confederate flag represent slavery.  At the start of the Civil War, there were slave owners in both the Norht and the South.  The Emancipation Proclomation was not given until over a year after the start of the Civil War.  The cause of the war between the states was big government.  The South believed in states rights, and the North wanted a more centralized form of government.  The Civil War was about money, and natrual resources in the South.  I know that now most so called history books wish to paint the Civil War as being about slavery, but it wasn't.  Most people in the South did not own slaves, so they really didn't give a rats ass about the slavery issue, they were concerned with the federal government infringing on states rights.  Why would the South risk war, over slavery, when a majority of the southerners did not own or depend on slavery?  It was about fundamental differeces in the way they viewed the federal government should be involved.  I am not defending slavery, I wish it had never happened, and think that it was a horrible practice, but the fact of the mater, is asside from the big plantations, slavery was not as rampant as the history books try to lead you to believe.  The winner always gets to write history, and in this case the winner tried to hide the greed of the North under the cloak of helping slave, when at the onset of the war slavery was legal in many of the Northern States that were fighting the South.
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i think your history is off.  i do think slavery was outlawed in most if not all of the northen states by the time of the civil war.  yes, the civil was was about economics and federalism and all of that, but those were all just aspects of the slavery question. without the slavery issue dividing the country in half, there would have been no civil war.  period.
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Conclusion

Although the majority of the American people-- including many moderate politicians like Abraham Lincoln--wanted to avoid Civil War and were content to allow slavery to die a slow, inevitable death, the most influential political leaders of the day were not. On the southern side, "fire-eaters" like Rhett and Yancey were willing to make war to guarantee the propagation of their "right" to own slaves. On the northern side, abolitionists like John Brown and Henry Ward Beecher of Connecticut were willing to make war in order to put an immediate end to the degrading institution of slavery.

These leaders, through either words or action, were able to convince the majority that it was necessary to go to war, and in order to convince them they justified the war with arguments that only indirectly referred to the subject of slavery (i.e., state rights et. al.).

Southern politicians convinced their majority that the North was threatening their way of life and their culture. Northern politicians convinced their majority that the South, if allowed to secede, was really striking a serious blow at democratic government. In these arguments, both southern and northern politicians were speaking the truth--but not "the whole truth." They knew that to declare the war to be a fight over slavery would cause a lot of the potential soldiers of both sides to refuse to fight.

So-was the war about slavery? Absolutely. If there had been no disagreement over the issue of slavery, the South would probably not have discerned a threat to its culture and the southern politicians would have been much less likely to seek "their right to secede." But was it only about slavery? No. It was also about the constitutional argument over whether or not a state had a right to leave the Union, and--of primary concern to most southern soldiers--the continuation of antebellum southern culture. Although the majority of Southerners had little interest in slaves, slavery was a primary interest of Southern politicians--and consequently the underlying cause of the South's desire to seek independence and state rights.

Should the Confederate flag represent slavery.  At the start of the Civil War, there were slave owners in both the Norht and the South.  The Emancipation Proclomation was not given until over a year after the start of the Civil War.  The cause of the war between the states was big government.  The South believed in states rights, and the North wanted a more centralized form of government.  The Civil War was about money, and natrual resources in the South.  I know that now most so called history books wish to paint the Civil War as being about slavery, but it wasn't.  Most people in the South did not own slaves, so they really didn't give a rats ass about the slavery issue, they were concerned with the federal government infringing on states rights.  Why would the South risk war, over slavery, when a majority of the southerners did not own or depend on slavery?  It was about fundamental differeces in the way they viewed the federal government should be involved.  I am not defending slavery, I wish it had never happened, and think that it was a horrible practice, but the fact of the mater, is asside from the big plantations, slavery was not as rampant as the history books try to lead you to believe.  The winner always gets to write history, and in this case the winner tried to hide the greed of the North under the cloak of helping slave, when at the onset of the war slavery was legal in many of the Northern States that were fighting the South.
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i think your history is off.  i do think slavery was outlawed in most if not all of the northen states by the time of the civil war.  yes, the civil was was about economics and federalism and all of that, but those were all just aspects of the slavery question. without the slavery issue dividing the country in half, there would have been no civil war.  period.
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You are silly. 

What northern states still permitted slavery in 1865?  The states individually abolished slavery before it was abolished by the 13th Amendment, and the Emancipation Proclomation did not actually free any slaves, since it only applied to slaves in states that were rebelling.

Yeah - most Southerners did not own slaves - only the wealthy ones who just happened to be the ones who had all the power.  The southern exonomy was dependent on slavery, the powers that be saw Lincoln as a threat to their economy, so they wanted to have their own country in which they could practice their slavery as they saw fit.  Slavery was not the only issue, but it was the biggest one.  Your romanticism about fending off big government is crap.
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Should the Confederate flag represent slavery.  At the start of the Civil War, there were slave owners in both the Norht and the South.  The Emancipation Proclomation was not given until over a year after the start of the Civil War.  The cause of the war between the states was big government.  The South believed in states rights, and the North wanted a more centralized form of government.  The Civil War was about money, and natrual resources in the South.  I know that now most so called history books wish to paint the Civil War as being about slavery, but it wasn't.  Most people in the South did not own slaves, so they really didn't give a rats ass about the slavery issue, they were concerned with the federal government infringing on states rights.  Why would the South risk war, over slavery, when a majority of the southerners did not own or depend on slavery?  It was about fundamental differeces in the way they viewed the federal government should be involved.  I am not defending slavery, I wish it had never happened, and think that it was a horrible practice, but the fact of the mater, is asside from the big plantations, slavery was not as rampant as the history books try to lead you to believe.  The winner always gets to write history, and in this case the winner tried to hide the greed of the North under the cloak of helping slave, when at the onset of the war slavery was legal in many of the Northern States that were fighting the South.
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Squeegie, the war ended in 1865.  It started in 1861.  Here is a link regarding slavery in the North.  http://www.afrolumens.org/slavery/faq.html
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Would you allow somebody to go to the prom wearing a suicide bombers costume who advocated the violent destruction of the United States of America?

The Confederate flag is a symbol used by traitors who hate America--no real American would ever fly one, let alone try to wear one to the prom.

(For the record, I would let her wear it to the prom).
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