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Trailer Parker
http://www.slrc-csa.org/letters/rebflagdress.htm


It is p.c. to celebrate your ethic heritage unless that heritage is white southerner.

WaterMan
QUOTE(Trailer Parker @ 12/21/04 09:31am)
http://www.slrc-csa.org/letters/rebflagdress.htm
It is p.c. to celebrate your ethic heritage unless that heritage is white southerner.
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Let's see her trying to wear that dress if she went to an all black school. We'll see how p.c. the students are.
Perchoutofwater
QUOTE(WaterMan @ 12/21/04 11:36am)
Let's see her trying to wear that dress if she went to an all black school. We'll see how p.c. the students are.
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Are you saying that they would not offer the same amount of respect for her culture as they demand for their own? Personally, I think she was stupid to make the dress and wear it, but if this should not be allowed, should african americans be allowed to wear their multicolored robes and such to school activities?
Trailer Parker
QUOTE(WaterMan @ 12/21/04 04:36pm)
Let's see her trying to wear that dress if she went to an all black school. We'll see how p.c. the students are.
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Are you saying that blacks are intolerant of other cultures and heritages? Can they expect others to respect their cultural heritage and identity if they refuse the same to others?
WaterMan
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 09:40am)
Are you saying that they would not offer the same amount of respect for her culture as they demand for their own?  Personally, I think she was stupid to make the dress and wear it, but if this should not be allowed, should african americans be allowed to wear their multicolored robes and such to school activities?
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African Americans shouldn't be allowed to wear multicolored robes if they discovered a new country and used slaves to build it, out of respect for the people they enslaved that are now living there.
Trailer Parker
QUOTE(WaterMan @ 12/21/04 04:48pm)
African Americans shouldn't be allowed to wear multicolored robes if they discovered a new country and used slaves to build it, out of respect for the people they enslaved that are now living there.
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So, anything associated with white people should be banned, out of respect for the people they enslaved that are now living there?
billay
What they didn't report, Spain, was that they also turned away a black male in his "40 acres and a mule" tuxedo.
Perchoutofwater
QUOTE(WaterMan @ 12/21/04 11:48am)
African Americans shouldn't be allowed to wear multicolored robes if they discovered a new country and used slaves to build it, out of respect for the people they enslaved that are now living there.
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Is there anyone on this board or in the United States that has ever been enslaved by the United States, or any state in the union.

Is there any race of people that have not been enslaved at one time or another?

Is it better to be enslaved by someone who holds you as a valuable asset, and that provides for and protects you, or to be enslaved by your own people who don't give a *** about you because there is an unending source of slaves in the next tribe over the hill?
WaterMan
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 09:53am)
Is it better to be enslaved by someone who holds you as a valuable asset, and that provides for and protects you, or to be enslaved by your own people who don't give a *** about you because there is an unending source of slaves in the next tribe over the hill?
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I'd take the not being a slave option.
skins
Spain, would you tell the whole story please. They also turned away the German American senior in his SS uniform. He was just celecrating his heritage. g-shrug.gif

Of course, the Easy Bake oven he brought with him was somewhat tasteless.
skins
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 04:53pm)
Is there anyone on this board or in the United States that has ever been enslaved by the United States, or any state in the union.

Is there any race of people that have not been enslaved at one time or another?

Is it better to be enslaved by someone who holds you as a valuable asset, and that provides for and protects you, or to be enslaved by your own people who don't give a *** about you because there is an unending source of slaves in the next tribe over the hill?
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Sometimes yer stupidity is truly awesome.

Congratulations! clap.gif clap.gif

Yer closing the year strong.
Perchoutofwater
QUOTE(skins @ 12/21/04 12:01pm)
Spain, would you tell the whole story please. They also turned away the German American senior in his SS uniform. He was just celecrating his heritage.  g-shrug.gif

Of course, the Easy Bake oven he brought with him was somewhat tasteless.
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Now that is just funny, in a wierd sick sort of way. Of course if I was a European Jew, or was related to one, it probbably wouldn't be, but since I'm not, that is funny.
Yukon Cornelius


QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 11:53am)
Is there anyone on this board or in the United States that has ever been enslaved by the United States, or any state in the union.

Is there any race of people that have not been enslaved at one time or another?

Is it better to be enslaved by someone who holds you as a valuable asset, and that provides for and protects you, or to be enslaved by your own people who don't give a *** about you because there is an unending source of slaves in the next tribe over the hill?
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QUOTE(skins @ 12/21/04 12:01pm)
Spain, would you tell the whole story please. They also turned away the German American senior in his SS uniform. He was just celecrating his heritage.  g-shrug.gif

Of course, the Easy Bake oven he brought with him was somewhat tasteless.
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laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif no it was the BRATS dolls he was handing out to the other students
Perchoutofwater
QUOTE(skins @ 12/21/04 12:03pm)
Sometimes yer stupidity is truly awesome.

Congratulations!  clap.gif  clap.gif

Yer closing the year strong.
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What, no response to the questions I ask, just name calling, Skins, I thought we were past that.
skins
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 05:03pm)
Now that is just funny, in a wierd sick sort of way.  Of course if I was a European Jew, or was related to one, it probbably wouldn't be, but since I'm not, that is funny.
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Well I am a quarter European Jew and I wrote it. What's yer point?
skins
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 05:05pm)
What, no response to the questions I ask, just name calling, Skins, I thought we were past that.
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Sometimes it is better to humor the retarded than engage them in actual discourse. Other times it is better to firmly let them know when they are wrong.
AtomicCEO
I agree with that girl's "principle"... she shouldn't be allowed to graduate high school.

She should be proud of her heritage. Uneducated southerners who can't spell or punctuate should be proud.
Yukon Cornelius
QUOTE(AtomicCEO @ 12/21/04 12:08pm)

She should be proud of her heritage.  Uneducated southerners who can't spell or punctuate should be proud.
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TimC
Dang, that sure is a purty dress. I'd like to have sex with her...and not just cause she's 17 and mah cousin.

:saluterebelflag:
Trailer Parker
QUOTE(skins @ 12/21/04 05:05pm)
Well I am a quarter European Jew and I wrote it. What's yer point?
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Should you be turned away from the prom if you are wearing a yamulka or a star of david necklace, since it might offend a Palestinian American?
Ursa Majoris
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I feel as if my 1st amendment right has been taken from me.


So, not just lefties that whine, then.
Dr. Sacrebleu
QUOTE(AtomicCEO @ 12/21/04 05:08pm)
I agree with that girl's "principle"... she shouldn't be allowed to graduate high school.

She should be proud of her heritage.  Uneducated southerners who can't spell or punctuate should be proud.
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Got to say, you'd assume someone along the way would quietly tell her when to use "I", "me", and "myself". Hey I'm not above a whole bunch of punctuation, spelling, and grammatical errors, but I know as heck, I'd get that puppy proofread many times before sending it off to the Southern Legal Whatever.
It kinda makes you look, well, dumb when you are making tons of mistakes while defending your right to attend an event celebrating your g-coach.gif EDUCATIONAL achievements.
The other two salient points are that
1) you started "saving" for the dress that you were going to make yourself for 4 years? blink.gif How much can that material possibly be worth?
2) I do think it is another moment of total overreaction. It's a friggin dress. It's not like she came in holding a flag. The dress is clearly not a flag, 'cos if it was she would be in deep trouble even from her advocates. But she is full of sh*t, as are the people who are expressing their 'outrage'.
spain
She is obviuosly a backwoods neck from Kentucky. What kind of idiot would want to display the stars and bars on their dress? That said, what was the motivation for them denying her entrance into the prom? Her clothing was not in violation of the dress code at the school. I actually heard this story on our local news this morning. Her lawyer made some pretty good points. It really boils down to he principal just trying to be politically correct. He actually had the police remove this fat neck from the prom, when she hadnt violated policy. I smell lawsuit..
Squeegiebo
That dress is really ugly.

Dr. Sacrebleu
QUOTE(spain @ 12/21/04 06:20pm)
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Most of the time the dress code policy is very vague and includes "...deemed to be appropriate" or some other coverall phrase. I would be shocked if that weren't in there somewhere.
I'm sure the dresscode doesn't specifically say that I can't wear a suit covered in dildos, or a shirt that lights up and says "Kentucky is for Morans" but I'm equally sure the dress code has a way of making both those sartorial extravagances illegal etc...

Squeegiebo
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Azazello1313
i'd kick that trashy b*tch out, too.
boat_hacked
I hope her date didn't express his southern heritage by wearing his "white tux". maybe that's is what got them kicked out?
spain
QUOTE(boat_hacked @ 12/21/04 06:51pm)
I hope her date didn't express his southern heritage by wearing his "white tux". maybe that's is what got them kicked out?
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Well, if the tux was all white, they could have been kicked out for displaying the French flag... laughing.gif
godtomsatan
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 09:53am)
Is there anyone on this board or in the United States that has ever been enslaved by the United States, or any state in the union.


Legally speaking, no.

Are there members of this board who were LEGALLY prohibited from the exercising the most basic of civil rights up until roughly 40 years ago in the United States?

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Is there any race of people that have not been enslaved at one time or another?


Does that make slavery right?

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Is it better to be enslaved by someone who holds you as a valuable asset, and that provides for and protects you, or to be enslaved by your own people who don't give a *** about you because there is an unending source of slaves in the next tribe over the hill?
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Apparently, I asked my last question a little early.

I would like to take this moment to address H8Tank and say you are no longer responsble for the stupidest comment I've read on The Huddle. I'm sorry, but you'll have to do better in the future.
godtomsatan
QUOTE(Trailer Parker @ 12/21/04 09:31am)
http://www.slrc-csa.org/letters/rebflagdress.htm
It is p.c. to celebrate your ethic heritage unless that heritage is white southerner.
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White southerners ought to be ashamed of their heritage.

EDIT: added an 'h', it's that kentucky public school education....
Pope Flick
My name is Jacqueline Duty, and Spain has fallen for my tacky publicity stunt..... busted.gif rolleyes.gif
spain
QUOTE(godtomsatan @ 12/21/04 07:17pm)
White southerners ought to be ashamed of their heritage.

EDIT: added an 'h', it's that kentucky public school education....
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Why is cultural pride a wonderful thing for everyone except white southerners?
spain
QUOTE(Pope Flick @ 12/21/04 07:21pm)
My name is Jacqueline Duty, and Spain has fallen for my tacky publicity stunt..... busted.gif  rolleyes.gif
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More importantly, will the jury buy it? laughing.gif
Squeegiebo
QUOTE(spain @ 12/21/04 03:22pm)
Why is cultural pride a wonderful thing for everyone except white southerners?
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nono.gif White southerners are not the only ones who shouldn't have cultural pride. You've forgotten the decendents of the Nazis in Germany.
TimC
The Stars and Bars stood for everything right in this country. You Yankees twisted it around to make it all about slavery because the European countries were about to recognize the blessed Confederate States of America. In turn, the homosexual Abe Lincoln said he'd free the slaves. Most Northerners didn't even agree with this.
godtomsatan
QUOTE(spain @ 12/21/04 12:22pm)
Why is cultural pride a wonderful thing for everyone except white southerners?
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What cultural contributions have white southerners made besides segregation, slavery, and secession from the union?
spain
QUOTE(Squeegiebo @ 12/21/04 07:25pm)
nono.gif  White southerners are not the only ones who shouldn't have cultural pride.  You've forgotten the decendents of the Nazis in Germany.
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German Americans and Germans both have very strong pride in the cultural heritage. My mother in law was born in Rensberg and I have been there with my wife and in-laws to visit their family there. If you think the Germans arent proud of their German ancestry, you havent a clue. Of course, they all claim to hate Hitler, but everything else they embrace. That goes for German Americans and Germans..
spain
QUOTE(godtomsatan @ 12/21/04 07:27pm)
Why cultural contributions have white southerners made besides segregation, slavery, and secession from the union?
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Please dont make me add you to my short list of idiots that I have on ignore. Currently it only includes that *** Bushwhacked but I can add your sorry ignorant ass too..
Perchoutofwater
QUOTE(godtomsatan @ 12/21/04 02:11pm)
Legally speaking, no.

Are there members of this board who were LEGALLY prohibited from the exercising the most basic of civil rights up until roughly 40 years ago in the United States?

Does that make slavery right?
Apparently, I asked my last question a little early.

I would like to take this moment to address H8Tank and say you are no longer responsble for the stupidest comment I've read on The Huddle. I'm sorry, but you'll have to do better in the future.
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I believe that slavery is absolutely wrong. I also know that practically every race, if not every race, has been enslaved at one time or another, and some still are today in other countries. I guess my question is, when will enough time have passed, that this is no longer an issue that is brought up in politcal conversation? Should I be seeking reperations from the Romans, and use it for an excuse for poor performance?

As to the last part of my earlier post, what is stupid about it. Most slaves in the United States were treated much better than their counterparts in Africa. The fact of the mater is that most slaves were treated very well here, because they were viewed as a valuable asset. While I totally disagree with slavery, if I had to be a slave, I'd much rather be one here than in Africa.
Ursa Majoris
QUOTE(spain @ 12/21/04 01:33pm)
German Americans and Germans both have very strong pride in the cultural heritage.  My mother in law was born in Rensberg and I have been there with my wife and in-laws to visit their family there.  If you think the Germans arent proud of their German ancestry, you havent a clue.  Of course, they all claim to hate Hitler, but everything else they embrace.  That goes for German Americans and Germans..
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True 'nuff. Germans celebrate their heritage (apart from the Nazi years, obviously) like there's no tomorrow, as anyone that's been to any German village Schutzenfest will have enjoyed....
Perchoutofwater
QUOTE(godtomsatan @ 12/21/04 02:17pm)
White southerners ought to be ashamed of their heritage.

EDIT: added an 'h', it's that kentucky public school education....
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Why shouldn't I be proud of my heritage. Contrary to popular belief, very few Southerners actually owned slaves. Southerners have every bit as much right to be proud of there heritage as our northern brothers.
Pope Flick
QUOTE(TimC @ 12/21/04 07:25pm)
The Stars and Bars stood for everything right in this country.  You Yankees twisted it around to make it all about slavery because the European countries were about to recognize the blessed Confederate States of America.  In turn, the homosexual Abe Lincoln said he'd free the slaves.  Most Northerners didn't even agree with this.
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You are TOO funny. laughing.gif laughing.gif laughing.gif
Squeegiebo
QUOTE(spain @ 12/21/04 03:33pm)
German Americans and Germans both have very strong pride in the cultural heritage.  My mother in law was born in Rensberg and I have been there with my wife and in-laws to visit their family there.  If you think the Germans arent proud of their German ancestry, you havent a clue.  Of course, they all claim to hate Hitler, but everything else they embrace.  That goes for German Americans and Germans..
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Oooooh - someone is defensive today! laughing.gif FWIW - my European ancestry is more German than anything else. But my people left long before the whole Nazi thing went down.

Fill me in, Spain - what of your Southern heritage fills you with such pride?
Savage Beatings
This is all so amazingly idiotic. Anybody who is actually offended by a Confederate flag is either an uptight windbag just looking for something to fight over, or a 150 year old freak.
Squeegiebo
QUOTE(Squeegiebo @ 12/21/04 03:48pm)
Fill me in, Spain - what of your Southern heritage fills you with such pride?
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I ask because I never feel the need to brag about my northern heritage. Frankly, I've never heard anyone around these parts feeling the need to display Northern Pride.

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godtomsatan
QUOTE(Perchoutofwater @ 12/21/04 12:37pm)
I believe that slavery is absolutely wrong.  I also know that practically every race, if not every race, has been enslaved at one time or another, and some still are today in other countries.  I guess my question is, when will enough time have passed, that this is no longer an issue that is brought up in politcal conversation?  Should I be seeking reperations from the Romans, and use it for an excuse for poor performance?


Considering the only people who ever bring it up is people who seem to insist it's the excuse blacks use for everything, perhaps you address them with that question.

The one difference in your example I'll throw out from a purely logical standpoint is that the Roman Empire has been dead and gone for about 1600 years. We are still governed by the Constitution which was initially written, and legally interpreted until more or less a generation ago, to exclude blacks from many basic rights supposedly provided to our citizens.

I'm not saying slavery is a legitimate excuse for poor performance on anything (not that I've ever heard anyone use such a thing), but the institution of slavery and the subsequent systematic treatment of blacks in the 80 or so years after abolition is the blackest (pun not really intended) part of the American experience.

Look at it like you pissed off someone for 400 years, it might take 100 years of buying them flowers and taking them out to dinner to get them over it.

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As to the last part of my earlier post, what is stupid about it.  Most slaves in the United States were treated much better than their counterparts in Africa.  The fact of the mater is that most slaves were treated very well here, because they were viewed as a valuable asset.  While I totally disagree with slavery, if I had to be a slave, I'd much rather be one here than in Africa.
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As was pointed out earlier, I would choose the option of not being a slave as the most ideal situation.

You're a Jew in Berlin. It's 1937. Take your chances in a labor camp? Or get beaten to death by roving gang of brownshirts?
Yukon Cornelius


QUOTE(Squeegiebo @ 12/21/04 02:56pm)
I ask because I never feel the need to brag about my northern heritage.  Frankly, I've never heard anyone around these parts feeling the need to display Northern Pride. 

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sneaky.gif thats cause we ummmmmmmm WON.... cool.gif no nead to rub it in
Azazello1313
QUOTE(spain @ 12/21/04 07:22pm)
Why is cultural pride a wonderful thing for everyone except white southerners?
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wrapping yourself up in a symbol with the intent of offending people and raising a ruckus is not celebrating any f*ckin' heritage. if she showed up in some get-up with satanic pentagrams and upsidedown crosses and sh*t on it, she'd get kicked out too, and rightfully so. if she wanted to celebrate her southern heritage, she could wear one of those crazy gone with the wind dresses with the fancy umbrella and all that crap and everybody would be fine with it. when she drapes herself in a symbol that many understandably find offensive, she's trying to make a point that is ridiculously out of context at a friggin prom.
WaterMan
QUOTE(Squeegiebo @ 12/21/04 12:56pm)
I ask because I never feel the need to brag about my northern heritage.  Frankly, I've never heard anyone around these parts feeling the need to display Northern Pride. 
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I'm from the South and the only people I see who display pride are, for lack of a better word, rednecks, who aren't fond of black people to begin with.
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