stevegrab

They have as many haters as they do fans. How many Pats fans loved watching them lose to the Dolphins then the Titans in the playoffs. That was almost as good as my team winning something.

The Cowboys are a huge draw for the NFL, both because people like them but also because people hate them. They are NOT America's team, that is just some stupid term somebody used that Cowboys fans cling to during their many years of mediocre play. Now cue the "well you're a Browns fan what do you know nonsense".

Would love for the Browns to bring him in as DC except it may mess with the defense going back to 3-4 and Garrett not being a good fit for that. I feel Wade was a great help to Sean McVey as a first time head coach, not only could Wade run the entire defense but he could help with his experience not just as a head coach but also a long time coordinator and assistant. Too many of these first time HCs are overwhelmed, especially when they are control freaks and won't give up calling the offensive plays.

Wow Cowboys fans aren't happy, did you expect Landry to come back from the dead? A college coach, sure because so many of them have had success in the transition to the NFL, name me the last young college coach that came in and had success........ I'd have loved to get McCarthy in Cleveland rather than another guy with no HC experience and very limited coordinator experience. But I'll hope for the best, and support my team. I bet our coach will be fired before McCarthy, and the Cowboys will win at least twice as many games in that period.

Booger mobile was retired near the end of last year I've heard lots of talk of ESPN wanting a better pair in the booth, the problem is who. Unless they steal some big name talent (Romo) from one of the other networks, who would they use? Some top college team, even if those guys are good many NFL viewers don't follow college, and they won't sound like big names. I think part of their demise was losing Tirico then shortly after that (2 years of McDonough) they lose Gruden, and start completely from scratch with a 3 man booth and the Booger mobile. Witten was bad, Tessitore wasn't great everybody pointed and laughed at Booger on the cart. ESPN and the NFL both want MNF to be a big game, to feel like a big game, and to have tons of viewers. I'll watch no matter what, but some will turn the game on and wonder if it is the XFL or some Monday college game. PS Only way it could get worse, Beth Mowins

I cannot wait until Skippy takes over the Pats without Bill and Tom to do the heavy lifting. I don't see him as some genius, I see him as somebody average or better that benefited from a great team. Ever since he backed out on the Colts job I've thought he's unlikely to land a HC job anywhere but NE. And not the good Pats we've all put up with for 20 years, but the Pats of the old days who mostly sucked.

Curious to hear who you wanted, what you thing about Stefanski hiring etc. Since the return in 1999 I never cared for many coaches that were hired. And as things got worse and guys were fired even quicker, I was starting to think we must get somebody that had HC experience, as well as some years as a coordinator behind that, not some guy who was just a position coach 2-3 years ago. So I was thrilled with Hue Jackson, also sounded like others were interested and he wasn't our last choice after missing out on 2-4 other guys each year. That turned out horribly of course.

God no, I was so happy they avoided skippy the failure. What has he done in his career? Win with Bill and Tom, that must be hard. Complete failure as a power hungry head coach in DEN. Then after he is canned does BB bring him back ASAP as OC? Nope, they're going with Bill O'Brien instead, so Josh is off to STL as OC where he fails again. Then O'Brien leaves and BB brings him back. Oh and there was that quit job on the Colts thing. I wanted somebody with more experience, more than 1 season as OC, preferably some time as HC. (Yes Josh has that, no it doesn't change my view.) Obviously Rivera and McCarthy were the 2 best options. I liked some of what Jim Schwartz would bring. Then I was hearing MIN media saying that the improved offense was as much Gary Kubiak as it was Stefanski. So I thought why not Kubiak, 10 years or more as OC and HC, and not a horrible failure at either job. I'll get behind Stefanski, hope he brings in some guys that are not all new to their jobs, a DC that's done it before, an OC to call plays who's done that, so that Stefanski can focus more on being a head coach. Its bad enough the GM is going to be some first time GM, and the owner is still a train wreck just waiting to fire somebody then telling us how he has finally found THE guy the one that can make us at least average again.

Hmm I had not heard that the NFL shut down the theaters showing NFL games, I recall hearing about that earlier in the season, don't recall if they were out of market games or the same ones you could watch on CBS/Fox Sunday afternoons. I don't get the appeal, I suppose if you don't have a good place to watch it, or want to join others or take a small group somewhere instead of home. I'd rather sit at home, especially with the new 65" Ultra HD TV and cheap beer and food, and no line at the bathroom (let alone pausing the game when I want, skipping commercials and garbage half time "entertainment").

Was disappointed that Clay Matthews missed out again (maybe that was the regular voting class and he missed being a finalist). Never saw him play or heard much about him, but Browns end (WR) Mac Speedie who played with Otto Graham got in. Was glad Art Modell was shut out again, hearing that could have been his lost shot. Glad to see Steve Sabol get in, the game does not grow to what it is now without him and his dad Ed and their work on NFL Films and production. With only 15 guys total, and some of them not affiliated with any single team there were bound to be some without a player selected, so how many got in from what teams: PIT(2), PHI(1), DAL(2), CHI(2), NYJ(1), old school teams from 20s(Badgers, Independents, Cardinals for Slater), DET(1), GB(1), NYG(1), I guess you can MIA too for Johnson I have heard some complaints that this centennial class was supposed to right many of the wrongs from the past, and there were quite a few candidates from long ago being considered. Yet most of those who got in were from more recent past, especially the coaches and contributors, but even most of the players were 70s and beyond.

He sure looked like the guy last year, this season he's had poor protection. They should build an offense around Chubb and Hunt running, and Baker on some roll outs.

I heard speculation that JJ is waiting to fire Garrett until all the other jobs are filled to make sure his team won't have to face him. Wouldn't that be special?!

Jimmy an Dee want all the control again, wanted Dorsey to step aside and just be a talent evaluator, no role in selecting coaches and surely not the final word on the roster. Things will get a lot worse before they can get better. What quality coach or GM candidate will be interested?

Really what? Thread content bothers you, don't read it.

Bush league BS. Sleep with wife or steal his video games.

Maybe you should have drafted Winston instead More about not being a QB while Lamar Jackson is having a huge year. Looking at the list, going back to 1970 I cannot see a single WR. There are some RBs (4 since 2000), even guys from defense (LT) and a kicker (Moseley).

A Jags fan on another forum has repeatedly told me that Foles will be gone, they will either cut him or trade him. He thinks they'll trade him in a way similar to the Texans trading Osweiler's bloated contract to the Browns with the Browns getting a nice draft pick (2nd round I recall). I told him trades like that are rare, so I wouldn't count on it. He's certain it will happen because not getting rid of Foles would be a disaster. Of course he also repeatedly says the Jaguars are the worst franchise, with the worst leadership in the NFL so anything is possible.

I see him on their list, and info on his projected stats. So he is there. I won't post the information here though.

Was it really posted here before it was in the Huddle News? You do realize the Huddle News is ever changing, and the home page list as well as the news feed page itself only shows so many items at once? If you look at his player page, there was info starting on Tuesday before 11PM (the night before this thread was started) indicating that Jacobs may not be available in the final 2 games. The info that he is "unlikely to play Sunday" shows 4:38PM yesterday, this thread was started 19 hours ago (its 2PM now, that means about 7PM yesterday, after it was reported on The Huddle News If you have a player on your team and are looking for info on him you should really be looking at the player, and not expecting some ever changing news feed to get you that little tidbit. One time when I asked about their news, and where does it come from, I was told it is a feed from Rotoworld. with the "Huddle Up:" portion written by the Huddle staff members. There are literally hundreds of ways to get news, the CBS site we use for our league shows the player news on each player, and icons like others do to indicate injury situations when looking at roster/line-up. There are plenty of legit issues with the Huddle lately, I don't think getting timely news to their members is one of them (PS I was ready to pile on until I did some research to see what news they've posted when.)

Wow that blows, makes me wonder if IDP opens you up to more stat changes (who gets a tackle, what is rules a sack etc). I know they can happen with offensive players, changing a pass to run or vice versa and other stuff. Our league site (CBS) makes game results final on Tuesday morning, if there is a later stat correction that impacts a game it does not not alter the game result automatically. (Not sure it impacts anything automatically.) Would really make a mess of the Wednesday waiver run if suddenly team records are getting shuffled around and waiver order is changing.

Oh did I hurt your feelings the other day, is that why you've been trolling me again? I play in one league, and had a horrible season, at 1-5 I was certainly not a strong playoff contender in week 6. But then I'm sure based on your name you're always the champion, well at least in that league with your 10 year old cousins.

I'm not FROM Cleveland, was not born there and only lived there for about 6 years, until after college. Lived almost as long in my birth city (Gary IN, I know major cesspool), then 12+ in Los Angeles, now I've been in Akron suburbs (about 30 min south of CLE) for the past 30 years, well over half my life. You're an Eagle fan so you must hate Santa

No way in hell the NFL gives him a lifetime ban, Kraft wont allow it. Repeated cheating and not changing is bad, like thumbing your nose at authority. I think most teams do some of this, but the Pats have (based on some stuff I've read) built an entire industry around gathering info on teams in an attempt to steal their plays/signs.

He was putting it together last year (and last) with the Browns. He was set to return here and sign a contract, until the Browns traded for OBJ. His catch rate was really good last year at 64% but a small sample size, under 50% for his career. Tough situation to read in TB with QB and other WR. I do know many Browns fans were freaking out and claiming he's better than OBJ, since OBJ hasn't scored 3TDs in a game for the Browns

Actually Mack did touch the ball a few times in the second half, quick glance at his carries and it seems every other one was minus 2-5 yards, and several were for no gain. Which is what my eyes saw, Saints D was nasty and the running game was getting stuffed often. 11 carries for 19 yards and getting stomped all night means not many rushing attempts. Congrats on your win.