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  1. I’ve never encountered this in my twenty years of playing fantasy sports, so I’d like to get some feedback on this. Sorry for the long explanation, but feel you would need to know all the details to make a judgement I’ve run my league for 15 years now and there is a set of brothers in the league (I’ll call them Mike and Bob). I’ve known Mike for 25 years, he used to be a friend back in my bar days but now I only see him at the draft and maybe one other time a year. I’ve only known Bob for 3 years since he joined my league. Draft day is the only time I ever have contact with him. Both brothers are also in my 11-year-old keeper league and Mike is the commissioner. This league uses an online draft and I don’t know a single other owner in the league, but I’ve been told that most of them are Bob’s friends. After last year, Mike said that he was done running the league because he kept having issues with people not paying on time. Because it’s an online draft and we don’t meet up, he has to rely on people mailing him checks and he said that he’s sick of having to hound the same people every year to get them to pay. I told him I was willing to take over as commissioner (this is my only keeper league and I really like the format) but wanted the names of the problem owners. I was going to tell these owners they needed to pay in full a few weeks before the draft and if they didn’t pay in time I would find replacement owners. He told me that he changed his mind and he would stay on as commissioner. He was mostly just venting and that even though he hates having to bug people to pay, everyone ends up paying him so it’s not a big deal. So anyways, this year I was the big winner of the league. I won the championship, total points and 5 high weeks. The entry fee was $100 and I ended up winning $650. Two weeks after the season, Mike sends an email to the entire league. He said half the owners never paid and he’s sick of chasing them down. It’s now the responsibility of the owners who still owe to contact him and arrange payment. He also said that he isn’t going to pay any of the winners until everyone has paid. I waited a couple days and emailed Mike and asked how many still owe and he said all of them. One of the 6 owners emailed him and send he would mail a check but he never even heard back from the other owners. He said most of the guys who owe are Bob’s friends but him and Bob got in a fight and aren’t speaking to one another. He asked me to text Bob and tell him to text his friends and tell them to pay. I texted Bob and he said he would try texting people to let them know but this is all his brother’s fault since he didn’t make them pay up front. I also personally emailed all of the owners who owe and politely asked them to pay so the winners could get paid. I haven’t heard from Mike, Bob or any of the other owners since. So as it currently stands, 6 of the 12 teams never paid. But 3 of those six that won ended up winning at least $100 so their winnings cover their entry fees, so basically three owners still owe. The commissioner isn’t really doing anything about it because he blames his brother since they are his friends. The brother is blaming the commissioner for allowing them to play without paying. And only me and one other owner are actually owed any money (the rest of the winners won just enough to cover the entry fees) so none of the other owners who did pay care. And I’m out $650. By my math, the commissioner collected from 9 of the 12 teams once you included those who won enough to cover their fees, so he should pay me $487 (75% of what I won). That to me is non-negiotiable. In my opinion, he should pay the rest of what he owes me out of his own pocket since he is the one who dropped the ball and didn’t collect, but I know he will never agree to that. Here's where my ethics question comes into play. Bob finished second in my league and won $550. Is it wrong for me to hold his winnings from my league as ransom until I get paid from the other league. On one hand, I feel bad doing this because the leagues are totally separate and he’s not the commissioner of that league. On the other hand, it’s (from what I was told) mostly his friends who haven’t paid. Right now, he has no incentive to make those guys pay since he’s not getting any of the money. But if it means that he doesn’t get his money he has more incentive to push them to pay. And it’s not my fault that the other league was run poorly so why should I be the one that gets screwed in the end? What do you guys think?
  2. Thanks for the advice everyone. The commissioner texted me today and said everyone finally paid and I'll get my money tomorrow. I suggest a new rule for next year. Everyone needs to pay three weeks before the draft. If you aren't paid by the deadline, you are out and we'll find a replacement. It won't be super easy to find replacements, I'm just hoping the fear of getting kicked out will be enough to motivate to pay.
  3. I got screwed in the league I run before. Most of the people paid up front, but there were a few that didn't pay until the season ended. I didn't care because we charge for transactions so I needed to collect after the season anyways. One guy was always a pain to collect from but eventually he'd pay me. Then one year he kept putting me off and eventually stopped answering my calls. I ended up paying his portion out of my pocket.
  4. He told me to put it towards his entry fee next year, but I think he is severely underestimating how much he won. He won $550 and the entry fee is only $170 so I assume he doesn't realize how much he won.
  5. So far everyone I've told said the same thing, keep the brothers winnings. I just feel bad because technically the guy I'm stiffing wasn't responsible for the other league. But if it is his friends who owe, he can press them to pay. If if they aren't his friends, he has to know someone else in the league who can press on the deadbeat owners. I had a situation in my league years ago where one owner refused to pay after the season. He refused to take my calls or return texts. I ended up paying what he owed out of my own pocket because the league winners expected what was promised to them and as commissioner I owed them what was promised. I'm just disappointed that neither of these brothers are stepping up to resolve this.
  6. Is this collusion?

    I talked about this with the commissioner and he agreed with me. He’s fine with me making the trade and he’s fine with me telling the other guy that I would give him first chance at Hunt next year and giving him the opportunity to match any offers I have for Hunt. But he’s uncomfortable with me agreeing up front to trade Hunt to him after the season because of the precedent it sets. I agree with him about this 100% and now just hope the Freeman owner sees that, regardless, this is a great deal for him to make.
  7. Is this collusion?

    I'm in a keeper league where you keep two players. Before keepers are due at the beginning of the season before the draft, you can trade draft picks in the upcoming draft for better keepers. During the season, you can also trade draft picks in next years draft for players this year. I offered a guy my first round pick next year for Devonte Freeman, which leaves him with only one good keeper option next year (Mark Ingram). I told him that I will have extra keeper options next year (AJ Green, Beckham, Hunt, Freeman if he accepts the trade) and will be dealing Hunt and Freeman before the draft. I said that realistically I'll be looking for a 3rd round pick for Hunt or Freeman. So I told him that if he made the trade and then dealt a 3rd round pick for either Hunt/Freeman or a better keeper option next year, he'd basically be upgrading his 3rd round pick to a 1st round pick at no cost to him. He wants me to put in writing that I'll trade him Hunt for my 3rd round pick next year. Would you consider this collusion? I don't feel bad implying that we could make this deal next year, but realistically figured I'd put Hunt and Freeman on the trade block before the draft, then give this guy final chance to beat any offers I get. I think it might be crossing the line to officially make a deal for next year, however. What do you guys think?
  8. Is this collusion?

    We only get to keep two players and I'm keeping AJ Green and Beckham and would be trading Hunt and Freeman (just because WRs have longer shelf lives)
  9. Is this collusion?

    I see your point, but wasn't trying to be shady. My exact words were "I'd be looking for a 3rd round pick for either Hunt or Freeman next year". I worded it this way intentionally, partially because that's generally how much people are willing to give up in situations like this. But I mostly worded it this way because I was afraid it could be considered collusion if I agreed up front. I figured if I said "I'll trade him to you next year for a 3rd round pick" it could set a bad precedent. In this league, since you keep 2 players each year, the teams that are in last generally keep their best two players and then try trading away the rest of their roster for draft picks. So generally there are no real earthshaking trades that really change the balance of the league. But if teams start agreeing in advance to basically rent players for the remainder of the year in exchange for moving up in the draft the following year, more teams would probably be willing to deal their top players and you could see teams really tip the scales for the rest of the year.
  10. I’m in a 12 team keeper league. We start 1 qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te and 1 flex. It’s .5 ppr and qbs get 1pt/25 passing yards, 4pts per passing td and -2 per int/fumble lost. My current roster is… QB-Prescott RB-Kareem Hunt, McCaffery WR-AJ Green, Beckham TE-Clay or Brate (depending on matchup) Flex-CJ Anderson or Tyreek Hill (depending on matchup) Bench-Cam Newton, Tevin Coleman, McFadden, Thielen, Ginn Would you trade Charles Clay, Coleman and Thielen for Luck, Jordan Reed and Doug Martin? The Luck owner also has Brees so he doesn’t need Andrew Luck. I’m thinking I get a big upgrade at TE once Luck and Reed return. Plus I have enough depth (Coleman and Theilen are my 4th rb and wrs) so I should be even if I get an injury at RB or WR. Worst case scenario, we can trade draft picks next year for players this year so if I get hit by the injury bug I could deal picks to fill any holes. Think the upgrade at QB and TE is worth giving up all that depth?
  11. I’m in a 12 team .5ppr keeper league. QBs get 1 pt for every 25 passing yards, 4pts per passing td and -2pts for every turnover (so great QBs don’t score a ton, but bad QBs can kill you). I love most of my team (Hunt, CJ Anderson at RB, Beckham/AJ Green at WR and either McCaffery or Tyreek Hill at flex depending on matchups) but have Cam Newton at QB and Brate/Clay at TE. Because of our QB scoring, Newton scares me because I could see his lack of accuracy leading to 200 yard, 1 td, 2 int games (which would be 8 points in our league) and neither TE will give me an advantage over any other team at TE. I know it’s early, but if you could only upgrade one, would you upgrade Newton or Brate/Clay? The QBs I might be able to get are Mariota, Wentz, Russell Wilson, Prescott, Derek Carr The TEs I might be able to get are Gregg Olsen, Hunter Henry, Jimmy Graham, Eifert, Ertz The way I see it, none of the QBs available except for Carr are huge upgrades over Newton so I should focus on TE. Maybe try getting Hunter Henry or Graham on the cheap?
  12. What's the weakest spot on my team?

    Watson is available, do you see him as an upgrade over Brate/Clay? I figure he's in the same tier where he'll have some good games and some horrible games. I was going to target Wentz or Carr, but trying to come up with a trade that benefits them but doesn't require me giving up a starter. I'm going to try offering Theilen and Clay for Wentz and Greg Olsen (he has Mariota so he doesn't really need Wentz and we have an IR spot so I can hold onto Olsen until he returns, then use my open roster spot to pick up Watson).
  13. I'm in a standard 10 team yahoo auction league (start 2 rbs, 3 wrs, no flex - none ppr). I'm thinking about breaking the bank for Levon Bell and David Johnson and then going cheap everywhere else. If I get those two, I would only get one other running back to cover me on bye weeks, then load up on wide receivers and hope a few of them stick. My thought process is if I get those two running backs right off the bat, most of the other teams will be fighting over the other ones, which will drive up the prices on them. I've also found that in these leagues, most people spend a ton of money early so there are some great bargains to be had later (in my auction last week, Rishard Matthews, Garcon, Mike Wallace, Eric Decker, Jeremy Maclin, Tyrell Williams and John Brown all went for $1 and guys like Devante Parker, Stefon Diggs, Brandon Marshall, Emmanuel Sanders and Jamison Crowder all went for under $5. I'm thinking that, worst case scenario, I end up with a roster like Luck and Palmer (who has great matchups the first couple weeks while Luck is out) at QB, Bell and David Johnson at RB and someone like Rob Kelley for bye weeks, a high-upside TE like Doyle or Hunter, and load up with 7 wrs like Garcon, Decker, Maclin, Rishard Matthews and hope a few of them either bust out or at least have good matchups each week. Best case scenario, I get Bell and Johnson for cheaper than I'm planning and I get more money to spend at WR and/or the other teams spend too much money early so I have more to choose from at WR. Thoughts?
  14. 12 team .5ppr, 4pt per passing td keeper league where you start 1qb, 2rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te and 1 flex. I'm currently only 5-4 and in the middle of the pack in points, but in 1st place in my division with a 1 game lead. We can trade draft picks in next year's draft for players and I'm tempted to do so, but not sure where I should focus on improving. My starting lineup is currently... QB-Russell Wilson RB-Latavius Murray, Isiah Crowell (with Asiata, James White, Alfred Morris on the bench) WR-AJ Green, Odell Beckham (with Edelman, Terrence Williams and JJ Nelson on the bench) TE-Jordan Reed Flex-Tyler Eifert (or Edelman) I'm obviously set at WR and TE. Looks like Murray is hopefully a low-end RB1/high-end RB2. I could do worse than Eifert at Flex. I'm thinking my biggest weakness is either a lack of a top RB (although I might be ok playing matchups between Crowell and James White) or QB. This is a keeper league where everyone keeps 2 players, so these are probably the players I might be able to get... QB-Jameis, Luck, Carr, Ryan, Stafford RB-Ware, Doug Martin Which guys do you think would provide the biggest improvements for the price (for example, I know Luck is the best QB out of the guys available, but would also cost the most. Should I go for someone like Jameis who I could probably get for much cheaper) Thanks in advance