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  1. Antonio Brown to the Raiders

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ex-steeler-says-roethlisberger-once-092949343.html i mean....i dunno...whatever lol all im saying is that....you dont hear this about tom brady...but maybe thats because hes just different lol i remember hearing a story, not long ago, about when kyle van noy arrived via trade..hes walking down a hall and brady sees him and walks up to hiim "hi, nice to meet you..im tom brady"....and van noy was like "ha, no sheet".....this was from van noy too...he couldnt believe the guy actually walks up to introduce himself.... im starting to think brady let ben win a couple of super bowls because he just felt bad for him
  2. Antonio Brown to the Raiders

    the news about brown renting a home has been well known over the last few weeks....im just saying ive heard some people make some comments ...even hines ward had some things to day iirc correclty related to ben and tomlin...kinda calling them out...jesse james also said some things...maybe not directly related to ben....but i think also indirectly i mean if ben did issue the "me or him..ill retire" decree you have to wonder.....i never implied brown was an angel or innocent in all of it...but you have to wonder if brown is really the only one with the balls to stand up to someone like ben....
  3. Antonio Brown to the Raiders

    gordeau...question how do you feel about a few sources/former players suggesting that ben is actually the problem?
  4. Bell to the Jets

    "Ya contract talks are going well...we think we can get something done"...just typical player / agent speak really....but I'm sure a large part of him was hoping this would go well and he would come back there....but you also acknowledge things fell "very short"....which doesn't really jive with the first statement .... Things aren't going well and fall very short....that's why I have a hard time taking his stances for face value He had to say it's business...or else he looks unappealing to any front office or owner....if he's vindictive against them he can be against anyone for anything is what that would say....and he's certainly not going to win any sympathy saying "it's personal against the Rooney's" The business line is the typical one...it actually makes you less bad than saying it's personal....I'm sure he was hoping things would work out with the Steelers which is why he played nice
  5. Bell to the Jets

    People are rarely, if ever , admit it's personal in a situation like that....it looks worse than saying it's business....he's as likely to admit it's personal as he is to admit that he felt like he gambled and lost....even if he really feels that way Never underestimate the animosity that franchise tag causes....u notice the Patriots rarely use it....using it once might fly with a guy...but using it twice is playing with a guy....the pats often let their guys exlpore their options and then let them come back and the pats will offer then what their value is to them....or even just come up with their value for player x and say "this is what we can do for u...if you aren't interested feel free to explore your options"...most guys appreciate it...and belichick has been quoted on that
  6. Bell to the Jets

    I'm sure it was business...but business causes animosity...don't think for a second it doesnt... Take Dion Lewis for example...the Patriots gave him life...brought his career back from the dead....and he got paid...by someone else...which should make him thankful....but when the Titans whopped up on the pats he let it be known. He thought the pats were cheap and that's why they got beat up(funny they won the Superbowl and Titans nowhere to be found)....business always gets personal no matter how much people tell you it doesn't with that cliche I didn't day the ship is sinking...but your narrative is bell lost....but bell might not feel that way...and if the Steelers struggle to make the playoffs(and don't) again he's probably going to enjoy it just a bit
  7. Ingram to the Ravens

    Good deal and value...Ingram is solid
  8. Bell to the Jets

    Ya players aren't going to strike or start their own league But where there's a relatively young all pro ...there's an owner in need of wins who happens to have a ton of cap space ...see what I'm saying?
  9. Bell to the Jets

    there was an HBO real sports segment not too long ago where demaurice smith got grilled pretty hard and basically accused of not taking the best deal for the players...I work for a DOD contractor and their is a union presense where I work....I think its foolish to think that all who work on behalf of the union always have "john q union worker's" best interest in mind all of the time....its not crazy to think a briefcase or two fo cash cant be handed over in order for the union to make concessions the company wants and mask it by saying "well we got this though"=something the company doesn't really care about but can be made to look beneficial listen...managing/owning an nfl team and keeping it successful is as difficult as its ever been....players wanting raises...players finding raises somewhere else and having to replace them...having to satisfy star players while managing money and not crippling the overall health of the team...its tough...its not the nba with 12 guys...or mlb with 25.....its hard to keep a team competitive....its more difficult than ever.....I understand the management/ownership side....and I get it I also get the players side of the coin...and I'm not going to go over that again and rehash it...you know their beef....so its only natural that both sides, with solid points, are going to clash....and that's what were seeing but...its probably going to have to be the owners who are going to have to give something up to make things better.....and those guys don't like to do that...they don't like losing if you are going to make a big budget action movie...and you love the director you have....the script/plot...and you have a 125 million dollar budget...you think this film will bring in 325 mil at the box office if its done right.....you gonna go out and pay some up and comer, 25 year old, actor to star in it? pay him 3-4 million? "hey I think this guy is a breakout waiting to happen...this picture can launch him".....maybe.....but most guys are gonna go out and get the rock or Wahlberg and pay them 15-20 mil yeah conner did well....but the steelers didn't make the playoffs......and now brown got out and its probably going to be more difficult for them to make the playoffs....bell might have lost a few bucks but I bet it was just as personal...about respect....for a guy helping the steelers win while putting himself on the line 400x a year.......its probably worth it to him I still stand by what I said about the system being out of whack in the nfl...at the very least the franchise tag is outdated and needs to be done away with
  10. Bell to the Jets

    Jets or jet-skis!!! I'm sure bell knew at some point he wasnt getting that lost money back...I'm sure he was prepared for just about every scenario As I always say...fans look at stuff from a different perspective... completely different...alot of players and former players are congratulating him...it's about the system and pushing back on the owners who have it really good...the system is a hit screwed up and the owners love it There's a good portion of people that are rooting against bell and brown...probably alot...most civilian fans who work alot for a modest living ...but there's some people who are happy for brown and bell...most guys who have sacrificed their bodies and heads for these owners to make money hand over fist....those guys seem to be happy for bell and brown...they understand the game and business better than us I'm sure somewhere bell is smiling and happy knowing he and brown are gone and the Steelers have to go on without two stars....maybe the Steelers weather it just fine and don't skip a beat....but maybe they don't ...and if.they don't make the playoffs or win a playoff game over the next couple of years people will always have to wonder The nfl needs to do something about salaries and structure...the franchise tag system is outdated now and the whole thing is a mess
  11. OBJ to Browns

    yeah this has been known for sometime...they almost look like they try to look like twins...iirc i think they even showed landry, on hard knocks, facetiming with beckham during camp
  12. OBJ to Browns

    dude...i know youre an eagles fan...just relax...i dont like the giants all that much either lol they werent making this deal to "get better" short term...not all deals are meant to "get better" on that day the giants now have 6, 17, the 5th pick of the 2nd round and a 3rd they didnt previously have i believe they have a back to put up 2k total yards on a complete sheeet team....who is a bonafide stud/monster/whatever superlative you want to use they also have engram and shepard who arent all that bad lets say they really like haskins...they can sit there at 6 and nab him..if they want to really feel comfy i think they can probably use that 3rd and move up a few spots to secure him.... they could potentially land a defensive player at 17....or even a wr...who is younger, cheaper and on a better deal than beckham albeit probably not as talented.....if they do defense they could potentially land a quality wr prospect early in the 2nd that they have their eye on...or they could land two defensive starters at 17 and the 2nd round......alot of things they can do.....i dont think this deal was meant to make them better today
  13. OBJ to Browns

    Lawrence has 2 more years before he's eligible
  14. OBJ to Browns

    They still have engram and sheppard...and the browns 1st rounder We've seen a couple of young qbs succeed rather quickly with some talent on offense....also I'm sure they plan on grabbing a qb here at 6....or somewhere The gm still has to pull the right strings...and the coaching is still a question mark....but I've seen worse "spots"
  15. OBJ to Browns

    well...full rebuild mode isnt bad if you have a young, 2nd year stud rb, and a new qb to grow with him......assuming the giants go qb at 6...they got a guy to put in the defensive backfield after losing collins.....its not a terrible move... i think this is a win/win....browns offense could be stackeddddd...i was gonna be high on njoku this year...now probably a little less but man him, odb and landry...with chubb...and who knows went hunt is available? wow anyway...ive noticed one guys whos name hasnt been mentioned...hasnt announced a deal...and hes been linked to a really savvy team that wont announce deals ahead of time(because thats just plain smart..no need to give away info before it can become official..ie anthony barr).......i feel like tate to the pats could be a reality once signings can officially happen