The Grey Pilgrim Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Almost every publication/internet site seems to have Moss ranked No. 1, or No. 2 in the WR rankings. I am in position in two of my drafts to take Moss this year, by having the 9th pick out of 10 teams and the 13th pick in a 14 team league. But I did find one publication (don't remember the name though) that had "red flags" on drafting Moss (as high as it will take to get him anyway), and it was based on a very very poor track record of Moss playing on grass. It does seem clear that Moss would likely put up better stats on turf, as most players do. Did I read the article correctly? Is there a huge difference in Moss's stats over the years, on turf versus grass? I'd appreciate any statistics or opinions regarding Moss's value this year. I like what appears to be a very deep RB situation this year, and could see me taking Moss and another stud WR to start the draft, and then taking a few lower ranked RB's in round 3 and 4. But I do worry about the effect of the grass fields on Moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Didn't seem to bother him in GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 You can look at NFL.com to see his performance for the last 4 years. I just took a quick look, and it looked like he is good on both surfaces. Not an issue, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 If it is an issue for Moss, look for OAK to play on grass shorter than a putting green and KC, Denver and SD to grow horse pastures for their OAK games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull739 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I do not seem to remember any problems in GB or Chicago. He excels anywhere when his head is straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 games on grass last year at Philly: 8 catches 69 yards 1 TD at Hous: 5 catches 90 yards 2TD at Chic: 4 catches 31 yards at Wash: 5 catches 66 yards 1 TD at GB: 4 catches 70 yards 2 TD (play-offs) at Philly: 3 catches 51 yards (play-offs) games on grass in 2003 at GB: 9 catches 150 yards 1 TD at SD: 11 catches 120 yards 1 TD at Oak: 4 catches 25 yards at Chic: 9 catches 93 yards 1 TD at Ariz: 5 catches 53 yards 1 TD games on grass in 2002 at Chic: 6 catches 58 yards 1 TD at NY: 4 catches 86 yards at TB: 4 catches 41 yards at NE: 8 catches 92 yards at GB: 3 catches 25 yards 1 TD games on grass in 2001 at Chic: 5 catches 81 yards at TB: 3 catches 49 yards 1 TD at Pitt: 8 catches 144 yards 1 TD (I think Heinz Field is partially grass, partially artificial) at GB: 2 catches 10 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 But Oakland isn't just grass. It's a damm swampy bog. The ground is a bit strange there. Towards the end of the season it could make a small difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 (edited) Ricky Williams played on grass. It had to be said. Edited August 8, 2005 by Ruffian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ricky Williams played with grass. It had to be said. 915584[/snapback] OK, fixed it for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull739 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Ricky Williams played on grass. It had to be said. 915584[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldan21 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I am in position in two of my drafts to take Moss this year, by having the 9th pick out of 10 teams and the 13th pick in a 14 team league. 915513[/snapback] I wouldn't be sure you'll even get one shot at Moss, he should be gone by the 13th pick for sure, and getting him with the ninth pick may not happen either, it only takes one guy ahead of you to pick him. His ADP from MFL is 14.15, which has him 12th to go, and his ADP is less than one pick later the 9th player taken. -DD21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Pilgrim Posted August 8, 2005 Author Share Posted August 8, 2005 True Dat, DD. But I want to have my ducks in a row just in case Moss is out there. I don't steer away from the RB's in the early rounds very often, but this is a year that I believe I can compete with 2 stud WR's, and 2 lesser RB's. Thanks for the help on the topic. I checked NFL.com as an earlier Huddler recommended, and it appears that Moss' performance was similar on grass or turf. He just had lower totals on grass (and fewer games played on grass). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 You also need to consider the CBs trying to stay with him. They are playing on the same surface as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 More munchies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I don't have the exact breakdown of surfaces around the league, but there are lots of FieldTurf surfaces these days, which doesn't get as boggy and overgrown (obviously) as real grass sometimes can. Again, not sure how many games Moss plays on FieldTurf this season, but I think it'd be better/faster that REAL grass. Radio and I play on FieldTurf on many fields in the semi-pros up here in Boston and the stuff is pretty d@mn fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 True Dat, DD. But I want to have my ducks in a row just in case Moss is out there. I don't steer away from the RB's in the early rounds very often, but this is a year that I believe I can compete with 2 stud WR's, and 2 lesser RB's. Thanks for the help on the topic. I checked NFL.com as an earlier Huddler recommended, and it appears that Moss' performance was similar on grass or turf. He just had lower totals on grass (and fewer games played on grass). 915724[/snapback] Antsports has him going 14th in 14 team flex prf leagues and 9th in 12 teamers. You have a shot at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcmast Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Didn't seem to bother him in GB. 915540[/snapback] , but now he's gone , but our secondary still sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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