whomper Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 John Stallwoth 936498[/snapback] I think he is in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Bill Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Not Art Modell...ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 I don't know much about this topic but of the top of my head, aplhabetically: Troy Aikman Larry Allen George Andrie Cornell Green Cliff Harris Bob Hayes Calvin Hill Chuck Howley Michael Irvin Lee Roy Jordan Bob Lily Harvey Martin Don Meredith John Nilan Jay Novacek Don Perkins Emmitt Smith Mark Stepnoski Everson Walls Darren Woodson 938236[/snapback] Lilly is already in. Add: Duane Thomas Drew Pearson Ed "Too Tall" Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Oh, and FYI, Jim Marshall not being in the HoF is a joke. 935805[/snapback] Good info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Pete Rose 936597[/snapback] 4000 hits gets you in. As for football, I'll pile on the on the Jim Marshall bandwagon, but think the Ray Guy suggestion went under appreciated. That Guy deserves to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustedflush16 Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 ...riiiiiiiiight..... If Dallas' 3 SB teams were a nice home-cooked dinner, Emmitt was the steak, Aikman was the garlic-mashed potatoes, and Irvin was maybe the creamed corn. 938202[/snapback] If you look at quotes from Aikman and Smith they always credit Irvin as the guy who made that team go. He was the motivating factor on the field and in the locker room. He dosen't get the respect he deserves because of the off the field issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I don't know much about this topic but of the top of my head, aplhabetically: Troy Aikman Larry Allen Cliff Harris Bob Hayes Calvin Hill Chuck Howley Michael Irvin Lee Roy Jordan Harvey Martin Don Meredith Jay Novacek Don Perkins Mark Stepnoski Everson Walls Darren Woodson 938236[/snapback] You might want to take your homer shades off; Aikman, Allen, Smith, and Irvin WILL be in when they are eligible (whether or not I think they deserve it is moot, they're locks); Woodson is borderline, Walls certainly has the numbers to merit it, Hayes certainly had the impact on the game to merit it. Guys like Calvin Hill, Cliff Harris, Don Perkins, Jay Novacek, and Duane Thomas just aren't HoF caliber - they were fine players for good teams, and no doubt occupy a warm place in many Cowboy fan's hearts, but just don't have the careers to merit inclusion. Howley, Jordan, and Martin I only vaguely recall as being regarded highly at their positions while they played; I'd assume one or two of those 3 should be in. I took the liberty of removing those players I've never even heard of - not that I'm Joe Football Encyclopedia, but I'm pretty confident that if I've never heard of the guy, he isn't a Hall of Famer. Though the convincing arguments you presented for your short list are very compelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Lilly is already in.Add: Duane Thomas Drew Pearson Ed "Too Tall" Jones 938537[/snapback] Duane Thomas - Hall of Fame non-conformist, not a Hall of Fame player. Pearson and Jones probably should be in. Jones for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 I think the Ray Guy suggestion went under appreciated. That Guy deserves to be in. 938833[/snapback] I'll give you Ray Guy, you give me Steve Tasker. Done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Bob Hayes and Michael Irvin, for sure. Hayes changed the way teams passed the ball vertically, and Irvin is simplythe Playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Duane Thomas - Hall of Fame non-conformist, not a Hall of Fame player. Pearson and Jones probably should be in. Jones for sure. 940442[/snapback] don't forget Bob Hayes, Rayfield Wright, and Micheal Irvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 4000 hits gets you in. As for football, I'll pile on the on the Jim Marshall bandwagon, but think the Ray Guy suggestion went under appreciated. That Guy deserves to be in. 938833[/snapback] Totally Pete Rose, and possible Bert Blyleven, 60 shutouts on crappy teams. Lots of complete games, and 14th on strikeouts all-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 don't forget Bob Hayes, Rayfield Wright, and Micheal Irvin. 940658[/snapback] Hayes and Irvin were discussed in the previous post - it's long and your lips might get tired, I know. Rayfield Wright...quick look shows 6 straight Pro Bowls. Certainly seems to deserve a discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 George Andrie Cornell Green John Nilan 938236[/snapback] I've gotta give a big "my bad" on dismissing these guys before - the 18 Pro Bowls between them is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Rayfield Wright...quick look shows 6 straight Pro Bowls. Certainly seems to deserve a discussion. 940663[/snapback] One of two veterans players among the 13 finalists this year, FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 While I'm thinking of it, Dan freakin' Reeves. 201 career wins, 4 SB appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Duane Thomas - Hall of Fame non-conformist, not a Hall of Fame player. Pearson and Jones probably should be in. Jones for sure. 940442[/snapback] I was hoping for someone to catch the Thomas addition ... LOL ... he did WHAT??? TO is going now decades ago. Of course he didn't even talk to the media something TO could never do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 While I'm thinking of it, Dan freakin' Reeves. 201 career wins, 4 SB appearances. 953138[/snapback] Pretty impressive career. He played for 8 years as runningback to, but did not put up big numbers. He might get in on his 1st try - whenever that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbev421 Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Harry Carson. A very good LB that anchored the giants defense during the 80's. LT got all the hype as he should, so Carson flew under the radar. I think he went to something like 8-10 pro bowls? If Lynn Swann is can get in, then anyone can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebyte Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Well...since Elway got inducted I'm willing to open the floodgates for some more Broncos. Randy Gradishar Steve Atwater Shannon Sharpe Pretty sure that Atwater and Sharpe will get in eventually, Gradishar just doesn't have the popularity. I doubt he'll even see a Vet pick in the near future. Oh...and Dan Reeves, you could make a case for him, except for the fact that he tried to run Elway out of town with his Tommy Maddox pick back in the day. Elway was supposedly washed up and Maddox was gonna be the future...of the XFL. Nice job. Now go back to pimpin' heart meds ya moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51Butkus Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Jimbo Covert. Payton Left. Payton right. Payton up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51Butkus Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 And I definitely vote for "My Man" Otis Taylor and George Andrie, only Marquette University NFL player that I know of in the modern era! Go Marquette! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Oh...and Dan Reeves, you could make a case for him, except for the fact that he tried to run Elway out of town with his Tommy Maddox pick back in the day. Elway was supposedly washed up and Maddox was gonna be the future...of the XFL. 953869[/snapback] I DID make a case for him - 201 wins are more than HoFers Levy, Stram, Gibbs, Lombardi, Walsh, and Bud Grant - not to mention Parcells and probable HoF coach Vermeil (though you can admittedly question his winning pct of 53%; though that was dragged down during NY and Atl rebuildings). 4 SB appearances are more than Stram, Lombardi, and Walsh and tie him for 2nd place with Bud Grant, Chuck Noll, and Marv Levy. That is rarified air, whether or not he had a personality clash with Elway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJOLIRPH Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 I DID make a case for him - 201 wins are more than HoFers Levy, Stram, Gibbs, Lombardi, Walsh, and Bud Grant - not to mention Parcells and probable HoF coach Vermeil (though you can admittedly question his winning pct of 53%; though that was dragged down during NY and Atl rebuildings). 4 SB appearances are more than Stram, Lombardi, and Walsh and tie him for 2nd place with Bud Grant, Chuck Noll, and Marv Levy. That is rarified air, whether or not he had a personality clash with Elway. 955545[/snapback] You left Gibbs out of the tie for 2d most SB appearances at 4, and Reeves does not compare with Gibbs because Gibbs winning percentage is 65% plus. Gibbs made a Super Bowl on average every third year he coached. Reeves was good but mostly just lasted a long long time. Reeves is the Art Monk of Coaches--lots of 8 yard hitches and very workmanlike and plodding. A wise man explained to me thats not enough to get in the Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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