Bombs Away Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Man what a disastrous start Hopefully, he got his worse game of the year out of the way. All I ask is that he at least post some 200+/2TD games. Hopefully thats not too much to ask this week against Cincy. If he has another Tampa Bay meltdown, I might have to insert A.Brooks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 He will bounce back... It has been a crazy week1. Don't get scared until you see week 2 if not 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigskin Junkie Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I heard he actually passed two touchdowns in the game to Wiggins..... BUT.... they were called back due to penalties!!! (Optimistic view is that had some dufus not committed the penalty, this would have been a 200+ 2TD game) I know, I am reaching, but hell he was my second pick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 He will bounce back... It has been a crazy week1. Don't get scared until you see week 2 if not 3. 986812[/snapback] I hope it was just the crazy week... 5 turnovers! Maybe his crazy coach has rubbed off on him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rodgers Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I heard he actually passed two touchdowns in the game to Wiggins..... BUT.... they were called back due to penalties!!! (Optimistic view is that had some dufus not committed the penalty, this would have been a 200+ 2TD game) 987318[/snapback] Well not really. Yes he passed for 2 touchdowns but if it were not for his fat offensive linemen holding Simeon Rice, he would have been flat on his ass like the rest of the game. Give the Bucs some credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I heard he actually passed two touchdowns in the game to Wiggins..... BUT.... they were called back due to penalties!!! (Optimistic view is that had some dufus not committed the penalty, this would have been a 200+ 2TD game) I know, I am reaching, but hell he was my second pick... 987318[/snapback] Well when you push he defender to the ground and then catch the ball that's what happens. The dufus was Wiggins in the one case. I don't remember the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Surely the Bengals won't stop Culpepper, at least I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The first one was completely bogus...Wiggins didn't touch the defender but they called it anyhow... don't worry about Cpep, he'll be just fine this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Just watched the game again on shortcuts... looks, again like the defensive game plan for the bucks was a hell of a lot better than the penciled in offensive game plan for minny! Hoping it was just an off week for Dante! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadman Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I agree totally with the last two posts. Gruden found Brian Williams every time he hit the field and exposed him again. Gruden/Kiffin vs. Tice/Loney/Cottrell will be a mismatch any time they take the field. The first Wiggins penalty was a farce. No way that should have been called. That TD would have completely changed the complexion of the game. As for Culpepper, I am dialing back my hopes for him a little bit. With McKinnie possibly injured for this week now on the OL, he may have even less protection on the blind side. I am confident they are still a playoff team, but they will have to change things up a little. I'd look for some designed rollouts, and Daunte to run the ball a bit more for the next couple of weeks, until they sort things out (hopefully). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The Vikings were in the game right up until that last dream-killing run by Cadillac. But let's face it, Culpepper was so amazingly horrible that he looked like a frightened rookie. I realize his O-line played for crap. Still, he was completely baffled by the Tampa defensive schemes. He would audible right into their hands, which was half the problem. He got rattled and lost his nerve. His WR we're often open, but Duante couldn't find them with the Tampa defense loving him up all day. And yet, I thoroughly believe that Culpepper is an elite QB in the NFL. He will definitely make a strong come back and have yet another great season, regardless of week 1. If you don't think he is embarrassed by his performance and eager to shake it off, you're nuts. Culpepper will certainly regain his composure and easily justify his high pre-season ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 everyone seems to believe culpepper will bounce back, but i'm curious just how he does that with no running game, average receivers, and a failing offensive line. as good as he is, how do you work this miracle? throw in tice for your coach and i just don't see it. the more you run cpep, the bigger a beating he takes. that cannot be your game plan. i'm afraid week 1, while it may get a little better, is showing us real concerns. dropping cpep a few notches as a result, and maybe even benching him until some positive signs surface, is not a bad idea IMHO. tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeljordan ca Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 everyone seems to believe culpepper will bounce back, but i'm curious just how he does that with no running game, average receivers, and a failing offensive line. as good as he is, how do you work this miracle? throw in tice for your coach and i just don't see it. the more you run cpep, the bigger a beating he takes. that cannot be your game plan. i'm afraid week 1, while it may get a little better, is showing us real concerns. dropping cpep a few notches as a result, and maybe even benching him until some positive signs surface, is not a bad idea IMHO. tony 987598[/snapback] Tony you took the woords right out of my mouth..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 With McKinnie possibly injured for this week now on the OL, he may have even less protection on the blind side. 987536[/snapback] What happened to McKinnie??? Losing your top two offensive linemen ain't good. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Neither CPep or the Jets will suck all year, but definitely lower yer expectations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynCrew Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The OLine problems are worrisome. They need some semblance of a running game and pass protection in order to get the passing game going. It's only 1 game so we're all in 'wait and see' mode, but it's definitely a concern right now. I'd be more worried about the RB mess than Cpep's numbers from a fantasy standpoint though. If you were counting on Bennet producing, that could be a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussMan Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 "the vikings will be better without Moss" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beamer Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 The game against the Bucs was not indicative of a future slide in Culpepper's expected output. He was under tremendous pressure against the Buc's pass rush. Before this game, the O-line has done quite while on pass blocking, even though they have struggled run blocking. The pass blocking did get better when they replaced a rookie they had at right guard. Even given how bad the fantasy points were and how bad the blocking was and how bad the turnovers were , C-Pep still completed 2/3 of his passes and he really did have one legitimate TD pass called back. Part of the problem started during the early game when C-Pep turned the ball over twice on a fumble and an interception. These first turnovers were not from Bucs pressure. The interception was a miscommunication with Burleson and the fumble ball slipped out of C-Pep's hands. Not so much due to pressure. These plays set the tone. After the first couple of series the Vikings were moving the ball, but were way behind in time of possession. It was after the first turnovers when the Bucs D started putting on more pressure and forced some of the later turnovers. C-Pep has had problems with turnovers and made excellent strides last year. He will rebound even without a running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombs Away Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 I heard he actually passed two touchdowns in the game to Wiggins..... BUT.... they were called back due to penalties!!! (Optimistic view is that had some dufus not committed the penalty, this would have been a 200+ 2TD game) I know, I am reaching, but hell he was my second pick... 987318[/snapback] He was my 2nd pick also. Lets hope he performs accordingly very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombs Away Posted September 14, 2005 Author Share Posted September 14, 2005 The Vikings were in the game right up until that last dream-killing run by Cadillac. But let's face it, Culpepper was so amazingly horrible that he looked like a frightened rookie. I realize his O-line played for crap. Still, he was completely baffled by the Tampa defensive schemes. He would audible right into their hands, which was half the problem. He got rattled and lost his nerve. His WR we're often open, but Duante couldn't find them with the Tampa defense loving him up all day. And yet, I thoroughly believe that Culpepper is an elite QB in the NFL. He will definitely make a strong come back and have yet another great season, regardless of week 1. If you don't think he is embarrassed by his performance and eager to shake it off, you're nuts. Culpepper will certainly regain his composure and easily justify his high pre-season ranking. 987559[/snapback] I like your thinking, I hope he shakes it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I've been telling you guys Culpepper sucks and is a product of the system for years. Of course, you all frickin' laughed at me for years, but . . . Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 I've been telling you guys Culpepper sucks and is a product of the system for years. Of course, you all frickin' laughed at me for years, but . . . Peace policy 988371[/snapback] What happened to DeShaun Foster being the starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 "the vikings will be better without Moss" 987972[/snapback] ...because they added by subtraction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 and maybe even benching him until some positive signs surface, is not a bad idea IMHO. 987598[/snapback] Benching Culpepper because of one bad game? Good luck with that strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 "the vikings will be better without Moss" 987972[/snapback] Vikings fans are true believers. Culpepper will rebound though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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