Bombs Away Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 nothing against Willie Parker, but just about anyone could run behind this line. Roth is averaging almost 20 yards per ATTEMPT behind this line. Parker looks like Priest Holmes behind this line. Even Vern Haynes is averaging like 6 yards per carry. Parker is talented, but his line is so good that when he hits the pine and Bettis and Staley start producing at the same rate ,you are going to see a 3 headed lineup over in Pitt. Also they have not exactly been playing the best run defenses in the league. 1001177[/snapback] Sorry you can make the same aruement about the Chiefs offensive line. Anyone can run behind that line is what you're saying. Also, about your 3 headed lineup, what is your source? Your own educated guess? Here's what Cowher had to say today: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=18067 Notes: Cowher insisted Parker will remain the starter when Jerome Bettis and Duce Staley return from injuries. "Willie Parker is going nowhere," Cowher said. ... Texans DE Gary Walker separated his left shoulder and is out indefinitely. ... Roethlisberger followed last week's perfect QB rating of 153.8 with a 139.8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 1001561[/snapback] You're an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUISER Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Willie has done great for me for two weeks. Now I will try to trade him for J lewis or K jones (I may throw in Andre Johnson or better yet Travis Taylor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Sorry you can make the same aruement about the Chiefs offensive line. Anyone can run behind that line is what you're saying. Also, about your 3 headed lineup, what is your source? Your own educated guess? Here's what Cowher had to say today: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=18067 Notes: Cowher insisted Parker will remain the starter when Jerome Bettis and Duce Staley return from injuries. "Willie Parker is going nowhere," Cowher said. ... Texans DE Gary Walker separated his left shoulder and is out indefinitely. ... Roethlisberger followed last week's perfect QB rating of 153.8 with a 139.8. 1001641[/snapback] Well actually ,you're right here. I do believe anyone can run behind the Chiefs line (when Roaf is in there). but Holmes also did it with the Ravens so I knew he could run before going to such a great place to be a RB(in K.C.) thus the reason he(Parker) ain't no Holmes yet. he(Holmes) has proven it under rougher circumstances. As far as my sources. I was giving you my opinion you dipshucks. I seen what Cowher said. Cowher also has been known to not let players lose their jobs because of injuries. it is gonna depend on if Parker can stay healthy and how Bettis and Staley do with their touches when they do get in (which I think they will do great and both get more and more carries because of it). thus telling you my opinion and how it can work out with what Cowher said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Sorry you can make the same aruement about the Chiefs offensive line. Anyone can run behind that line is what you're saying. Also, about your 3 headed lineup, what is your source? Your own educated guess? Here's what Cowher had to say today: http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=18067 Notes: Cowher insisted Parker will remain the starter when Jerome Bettis and Duce Staley return from injuries. "Willie Parker is going nowhere," Cowher said. ... Texans DE Gary Walker separated his left shoulder and is out indefinitely. ... Roethlisberger followed last week's perfect QB rating of 153.8 with a 139.8. 1001641[/snapback] Yes, and Andy Reid said for years the Eagles WRs were fine. Then he went out and signed T.O. Put the kool-aid down and walk away. And Cowher said he would start, that doesn't mean he will be the only RB they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Week 1 Titans give up 160 to FWPWeek 2 Titans hold Jamal Lewis to 9 yards 1001180[/snapback] It easy to stack the line against Baltimore when you don't have to respect the passing game. I'm not saying Parker isn't good or won't continue to be productive. I just would like to see more then 2-3 games before I put him in the "stud" category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombs Away Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 Yes, and Andy Reid said for years the Eagles WRs were fine. Then he went out and signed T.O. Put the kool-aid down and walk away. And Cowher said he would start, that doesn't mean he will be the only RB they use. 1001680[/snapback] Not a good comparison because everyone knew the Eagles WR's were terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombs Away Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 Holmes also did it with the Ravens so I knew he could run before going to such a great place to be a RB(in K.C.) thus the reason he(Parker) ain't no Holmes yet. he(Holmes) has proven it under rougher circumstances. 1001674[/snapback] The first test will be next week against NE at home. I've seen a lot of stud RB's in their prime, and watching Parker play...he's impressive, he's no Holmes yet, but he sure is turning heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I'm not ready to put him in the "stud" category either. However, I do watch each and every Steeler game and I was lucky enough to see Parker in camp this summer. As well as talk to a few other people, one a media guy, that watched Parker in camp all summer. All I will say is that what he is doing is not surprising me. There was plenty of buzz about Parker before Bettis even got hurt. He was set to take over the third down job and it was quietly being said that he would get his chance. I think he has made the best of his chance and I think that Cowher and everyone else that matters has taken notice. It would be foolish for you guys to think that Staley and Bettis won't see the field when healthy but how much they see the field is the question. Cowher has said very good things about Parker and I am sure that as of today he is the Steeler number one RB. Bettis is still going to get goal line plunges and it would be silly of any of us not to think so. The big question in my mind is what they do with Stayley when he comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I'm not ready to put him in the "stud" category either. However, I do watch each and every Steeler game and I was lucky enough to see Parker in camp this summer. As well as talk to a few other people, one a media guy, that watched Parker in camp all summer. All I will say is that what he is doing is not surprising me. There was plenty of buzz about Parker before Bettis even got hurt. He was set to take over the third down job and it was quietly being said that he would get his chance. I think he has made the best of his chance and I think that Cowher and everyone else that matters has taken notice. It would be foolish for you guys to think that Staley and Bettis won't see the field when healthy but how much they see the field is the question. Cowher has said very good things about Parker and I am sure that as of today he is the Steeler number one RB. Bettis is still going to get goal line plunges and it would be silly of any of us not to think so. The big question in my mind is what they do with Stayley when he comes back. 1001706[/snapback] Good info here. If nothing else the post Bettis and Staley era is looking pretty solid when that time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 i don't doubt tha bettis will vulture some TDs, and that duce will get a fair number of third down reps. but i think this is willie's job for the foreseeable future right now, and the way pitt runs the ball he's looking like a 1600 yard back this year. i sure wish i picked him up in more than one league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piles Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Cowher also has been known to not let players lose their jobs because of injuries. 1001674[/snapback] Well then maybe Maddux should get his job back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiPolarBear Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I guess we can forget the comparison to Q.Griffin, and also the idea that Parker will be sharing carries with the old bus and Staley I broke a nail...again If you hesistated picking him up, shame on you. Now you have to worry facing him every week. Next week at home against NE. Davis 3 rushing TD's? Davis is no Parker 1001043[/snapback] Good defenses slow everybody down. If they slow Willie down it proves nothing. He is still looking better than a lot of first round backs. What's Jamal's excuse? McGhee? You could always trade Parker if you don't like him...oh wait...you don't HAVE Parker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 (edited) Good defenses slow everybody down. If they slow Willie down it proves nothing. He is still looking better than a lot of first round backs. What's Jamal's excuse? McGhee? You could always trade Parker if you don't like him...oh wait...you don't HAVE Parker. 1001928[/snapback] Didn't I say in this posts that it is easy to stack the line versus Baltimore because the passing game is horrible? Same goes for the Bills. I'm not making excuses, because these guys should still put up better numbers then they are, but when defenses can key on one guy all day it has to make it tough. At least Pittsburgh has a solid passing game as well. I never said I didn't like Parker. In fact, I said I think he will still be productive. I just don't want to annoint him until I see a few more games, especially against better defenses. You may want to try and read the posts before jumping all over someone. Edited September 19, 2005 by ebartender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Good defenses slow everybody down. If they slow Willie down it proves nothing. He is still looking better than a lot of first round backs. What's Jamal's excuse? McGhee? 1001928[/snapback] Exactly! Thank you. We don't knock actual studs when they go sub-100 against good Ds, so why knock Willie? Also, just a sidenote, Stephan Davis just rushed for 3TDs against the Pats, who have alos given up nearly 50 points in 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiPolarBear Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Didn't I say in this posts that it is easy to stack the line versus Baltimore because the passing game is horrible? Same goes for the Bills. I'm not making excuses, because these guys should still put up better numbers then they are, but when defenses can key on one guy all day it has to make it tough. At least Pittsburgh has a solid passing game as well. I never said I didn't like Parker. In fact, I said I think he will still be productive. I just don't want to annoint him until I see a few more games, especially against better defenses. You may want to try and read the posts before jumping all over someone. 1003176[/snapback] I am not being a wise guy when I ask: Was I talking to you? I am looking at who I quoted and it seems to be Bombs Away who is a FW Parker fan. I think I was addressing the general sour grapes crowd. One thing is for sure. I do not wish to offend a person who conducts themself as a gentlemen. Please excuse me if I went over the line. I may still be confused about this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG SACK Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Settle down ladies. Parker will continue to thrive and lose an occasional TD to Bettis. Until of course he (Bettis) retires next year. Hold on to Willie gentlemen. This is a special kid. Enjoy if you have him. If not...you can always try to look for the next Terrell Davis...Portis...now Parker (relax I am comparing him only because he came out of nowhere and probably was acquired off waivers as were Davis and Portis...RELAX!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I guess we can forget the comparison to Q.Griffin, and also the idea that Parker will be sharing carries with the old bus and Staley I broke a nail...again If you hesistated picking him up, shame on you. Now you have to worry facing him every week. Next week at home against NE. Davis 3 rushing TD's? Davis is no Parker 1001043[/snapback] What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 What happened? 1021258[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 What happened? 1021258[/snapback] Really, what did happen? I may have been watching something different than you guys or maybe my Stiller eyes were blind today but what I saw sure didn't seem like a Parker problem. I mean 3.25 per carry is not something to get all worked up about, that I will admit but honestly, the Patriots played a great defensive game today and had all the Steeler's numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Really, what did happen? I may have been watching something different than you guys or maybe my Stiller eyes were blind today but what I saw sure didn't seem like a Parker problem. I mean 3.25 per carry is not something to get all worked up about, that I will admit but honestly, the Patriots played a great defensive game today and had all the Steeler's numbers. 1021355[/snapback] i thought he did okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) 18 touches 49 yards..I thought no one can stop this guy ? To the true Steelers homers im just busting balls a little but this thread last week was annointing Parker as the next Emmitt Smith . Edited September 26, 2005 by whomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asabban@comcast.net Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Really, what did happen? I may have been watching something different than you guys or maybe my Stiller eyes were blind today but what I saw sure didn't seem like a Parker problem. I mean 3.25 per carry is not something to get all worked up about, that I will admit but honestly, the Patriots played a great defensive game today and had all the Steeler's numbers. 1021355[/snapback] i started parker over Julius Jones today!!!... god I hate that!!!.....cadillac faired well for me as my other starter, but he couldn't find the endzone. now at least i dont have to bang my head and guess which to start next week cause free willy is on a bye........caddy and jj will be my 2 "studs" and free willy will fill in as a spot starter(matchup) and bye weeks! just my 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 18 touches 49 yards..I thought no one can stop this guy ? To the true Steelers homers im just busting balls a little but this thread last week was anointing Parker as the next Emmitt Smith . 1021368[/snapback] Okay, I can accept that but honestly, he did the same thing as the two other RB's that the Pats played this year, IMO. That is minus the three one yard plunges that Davis had. I will be the first to go on record and say that you only start studs vs the Pats. I knew that coming into this week but I still started WP in hopes that he would bust one or two. I knew, at least I figured, that he was going to be on the low end in yardage and looking back at Lamont Jordan, week 1, and Davis in week 2, you had to know that Parker wasn't in for a picnic today. Now if you guys are smart, you go after WP this week when his owner may be doubting his superman abilities. I'll be holding on to him myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombs Away Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 18 touches 49 yards..I thought no one can stop this guy ? To the true Steelers homers im just busting balls a little but this thread last week was annointing Parker as the next Emmitt Smith . 1021368[/snapback] You know what, even Emmitt had some tough running days. Today, Willie got some tough yards, but the play calling and big ben stunk down the stretch. Even with a lead the Steelers started passing 1st, as if they were playing from behind. That was terrible, of course Willie didn't get very many touches once Pitt started poorly airing it out. Ben really stunk in the 2nd half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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