MrTed46 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I read on the main page (projections) that he might even lose his #2 job? Thats insane if you ask me... I am not saying that is false I am just shocked. Does anyone have any info on this/opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I think we are going to have to wait and see what happens this week - it will probably make things more clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull739 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Anything is possible with King Denny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 While there has been word that Shipp will take over and that Arrington is dropping, I think it is still too early to consider a major shift here. The reality is that Arrington has only played in one game. Yes, he only gained 5 yards on 8 carries against the Giants on the road, but Marcel Shipp only had 10 yards on seven runs. Arrington also added 22 yards on four receptions in that game. While who knows what lurks in the heart of Denny Green, but it would seem rather premature to write Arrington off after only 8 carries, especially when Shipp was no more successful in that same game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehb1 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 This seems to be same situation that Thomas Jones was in when he he came to Ari as a rookie. Michael Pittman wouldn't give up the starting job, and when Jones did get a chance he wasn't impressive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzy84 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 While there has been word that Shipp will take over and that Arrington is dropping, I think it is still too early to consider a major shift here. The reality is that Arrington has only played in one game. Yes, he only gained 5 yards on 8 carries against the Giants on the road, but Marcel Shipp only had 10 yards on seven runs. Arrington also added 22 yards on four receptions in that game. While who knows what lurks in the heart of Denny Green, but it would seem rather premature to write Arrington off after only 8 carries, especially when Shipp was no more successful in that same game. 1008348[/snapback] yes it is only one game, but he did suck it up pretty bad all preseason. And the kid can't block at all and thats the main thing. Warner needs to have some protection or he will be fumbleing all over the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawbwilsh Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I think he'll be a late season perfomer. I see him like Kevin Jones last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I'm holding on to him for now!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) I'm holding on to him for now!!!!! 1010194[/snapback] Me too. Shipp is better at gaining yards with a bad offensive line. That has been true in Arizona for quite awhile. They need to get better and Arrington needs to be more confident and pick up blitzers better. Sitting on the bench and watching Shipp should help. Or watch Cadillac. Edited September 22, 2005 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) Arrington practiced yesterday. Green hasn't named a starter yet. And apparently that stomach illness was bad enough to hospitalize Arrington, so I'm starting to doubt that it was a concocted story to take Shipp out for a maiden voyage. The situation still sucks, though. Edited September 22, 2005 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I wonder if either one (Shipp or Arrington) are going to be that good until the Cards get a respectable QB under center. If they had someone with an arm and a brain that the opposing D would have to respect (especially with the receiver threats they have) I think their running game would be opened up a lot more. I expected Arrington to have a big year, but some of that was based on Warner putting up good numbers too, which he has yet to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 He does throw alot though - Boldin and Fitz get plenty of attention it seems - which you would think might open up some running room... ...you would think.... Blah, it's frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 He does throw alot though -1011281[/snapback] Not sure all opposing D's would think that is such a bad thing though since it is Warner throwing the ball. If he had more time, I think he could get the job done, I just don't think he has a good enough line to do much with all those attempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) I wonder if either one (Shipp or Arrington) are going to be that good until the Cards get a respectable QB under center. 1011240[/snapback] <whistle> Time out on the field. Yo Mama wishes to challenge the accuracy of this assertion. Kurt Warner after two games: - 6th best completion ratio for a starting QB so far: 63.6% - tied for most passes thrown so far: 88 - 4th most passing yards: 591 - only 2 INTs: 17 - or more than half the starting QBs in the NFL - have thrown 2 or more INTs so far. Yes, he eaten 8 sacks and only thrown 1 TD. But Warner *is* a respectable QB whose doing rather well considering the lack of support he's received thus far from his O-line or the Cards' running game. He's accurate, moving the chains, and not making mistakes. Edited September 22, 2005 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) I agree with yo mama....if they had a respectable running back, he'd be able to make better reads off the coverages.... and I don't think the OL is that bad....the RB's just aren't cutting it...especially since he's only been sacked 8 times with all of those attempts Edited September 22, 2005 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 not making mistakes. 1011432[/snapback] Except the three fumbles last game against the Rams ... two of which he fortunately recovered. I'm not saying he is bad, just that he is not doing as good as some thought he would (myself included). They could have won against the Rams. Heck, if you go by stats right now, Trent Dilfer is a very respectable QB (who woulda thunk that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Heck, if you go by stats right now, Trent Dilfer is a very respectable QB (who woulda thunk that) 1011522[/snapback] Me, after Week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Except the three fumbles last game against the Rams ... two of which he fortunately recovered. 1011522[/snapback] As those fumbles go ... the first one gave STL the ball on ARI's 20 yard line then Bulger threw an INT on the next play and when Warner comes back for the first play of the series he fumbles the second time but recovers it ... his third fumble was on 2nd and goal at the 1 which then led to 3rd and goal and the 4 where he got sacked and then they had to kick a field goal. I'm sure that doesn't do much for his confidence ... and certainly doesn't make him look that great. Granted, just about any QB you have to respect and still play hard against (insert Boller, Feeley, others joke here), but some definitely more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Me, after Week 1. 1011528[/snapback] Cool, picked him off waivers earlier today. Any other guys you can tip me off to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 As those fumbles go ... the first one gave STL the ball on ARI's 20 yard line then Bulger threw an INT on the next play and when Warner comes back for the first play of the series he fumbles the second time but recovers it ... his third fumble was on 2nd and goal at the 1 which then led to 3rd and goal and the 4 where he got sacked and then they had to kick a field goal. I'm sure that doesn't do much for his confidence ... and certainly doesn't make him look that great. Granted, just about any QB you have to respect and still play hard against (insert Boller, Feeley, others joke here), but some definitely more than others. 1011601[/snapback] I believe the one at the 1 was a bad snap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I believe the one at the 1 was a bad snap... 1011608[/snapback] Could be .. I didn't see the game, just going off the play-by-play which said he was rushing it .. which does seem a little odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Cool, picked him off waivers earlier today. Any other guys you can tip me off to? 1011606[/snapback] I dunno. I'm pretty secretive when it comes to my waiver wire pick up recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I dunno. I'm pretty secretive when it comes to my waiver wire pick up recommendations. 1011682[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I dunno. I'm pretty secretive when it comes to my waiver wire pick up recommendations. 1011682[/snapback] Just makin sure you weren't holdin out on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stimer Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Just makin sure you weren't holdin out on us. 1011722[/snapback] Plus we have deep rosters and all the guys you mentioned this week are already gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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