Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I did one earlier this week with me potentially picking up Dilfer....but now I'll do it between 2 QB's who are actually on my roster... Collins @ Philly Warner @ Hawks... I hate starting Collins at Philly...I think this might be his worst game of the season....not that Warner looks that great....but I think he might look good by default here and the hawks defense not being that great.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I did one earlier this week with me potentially picking up Dilfer....but now I'll do it between 2 QB's who are actually on my roster...Collins @ Philly Warner @ Hawks... I hate starting Collins at Philly...I think this might be his worst game of the season....not that Warner looks that great....but I think he might look good by default here and the hawks defense not being that great.... 1012056[/snapback] KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I would trust Collins (especially since he has Moss now) against a good defense before I would trust Warner behind that bad Cardinal line against a good defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Rugby Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 It pains me to say it, but Warner may be your better option this week. I see Philly shutting down Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcoltfan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Tough one. I might go with Warner against the weaker "D" If the KC Def gave Collins trouble what will the Eagles do? Warner. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 yea, I think Jordan will take on his 1st 'heavy load' of the season and be somewhat productive....but still leaving the air attack anemic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Tough one. I might go with Warner against the weaker "D" If the KC Def gave Collins trouble what will the Eagles do? Warner. Good luck! 1012072[/snapback] yea...but when theres a divisional rival matchup...I throw ethics out the window... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I've got that same choice to make in one league. I'm going with Warner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavinRJohnson Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Collins. No doubt in my mind. What makes everyone so sure Philly is going to slow OAK down? Surely not the fact that they shut down the high powered passing attacks of ATL and SF so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Collins. No doubt in my mind. What makes everyone so sure Philly is going to slow OAK down? Surely not the fact that they shut down the high powered passing attacks of ATL and SF so far? 1012109[/snapback] the crappy OL in oakland and the strong secondary that slowed Moss down last year to under 10 yds a catch....and a garbage time TD..... but Collins might get pretty rattled with that blitz....I don't like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhoops Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Really tough choice, Collins and Moss should be good for a score or 2. It might be the TO v. Moss show with the last team to score winning. The only sticky issues is that Philly has a good D. Who knows if Shipp can carry the load. Warner should be decent with his stable of WR. Collins has a better chance to get big numbers but both will be decent. Clear as mud, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Like you said "Garbage time TD's" are always possible. I would go with Collins. They will be down early and throwing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Really tough choice, Collins and Moss should be good for a score or 2. It might be the TO v. Moss show with the last team to score winning. The only sticky issues is that Philly has a good D. Who knows if Shipp can carry the load. Warner should be decent with his stable of WR. Collins has a better chance to get big numbers but both will be decent. Clear as mud, right? 1012131[/snapback] bah...I should have just listed my lineup.....am I in the position to try a high risk/reward type of player? RB Jordan, Edge WR Holt, Boldin, T Taylor TE Da. Clark K S Graham D/ST Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavinRJohnson Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 bah...I should have just listed my lineup.....am I in the position to try a high risk/reward type of player?RB Jordan, Edge WR Holt, Boldin, T Taylor TE Da. Clark K S Graham D/ST Dallas 1012148[/snapback] Another reason to start Collins. No way do I put all my eggs in the Warner/Boldin basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhoops Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 yeah go with Collins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Another reason to start Collins. No way do I put all my eggs in the Warner/Boldin basket. 1012158[/snapback] what about Jordan and Collins?...I see the same thing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 first and last bump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalEmpire.com Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Ugh, I honestly can say I don't have a strong opinion either way. Collins is a guy who I have learned my lesson on... never again will I have him on my team. Too erratic and darn near maddening. Warner, though... it's kinda like picking between turd sandwich and giant Megan Fox, isn't it? (sorry, Im still immature enough to watch South Park) At the end of the day, I trust Collins and his weapons over Warner. Even though both could just as likely throw 5 picks as 5 TD's, Collins has better receivers to catch the ball if he can get the ball to them. GOOD LUCK :doah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Ugh, I honestly can say I don't have a strong opinion either way. Collins is a guy who I have learned my lesson on... never again will I have him on my team. Too erratic and darn near maddening. Warner, though... it's kinda like picking between turd sandwich and giant Megan Fox, isn't it? (sorry, Im still immature enough to watch South Park) At the end of the day, I trust Collins and his weapons over Warner. Even though both could just as likely throw 5 picks as 5 TD's, Collins has better receivers to catch the ball if he can get the ball to them. GOOD LUCK :doah: 1012316[/snapback] preciate it...I've been happy with Collins' production so far....he's averaged 30 pts for me and has strayed from his turnover ways....but I fear the worst this week....I think I'll run with Collins and just bite the bullet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehb1 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Go with Warner - even if the Raiders/Phil game goes to garbage time who's to say Collins will be in there down 34-7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Collins- tough matchup no question- but w/Moss drawing double teams & Jordan is a nice recieving back, I think Collins puts up decent #'s. Ms. Warner, wow just can't see playing her, also Cards running game is so brutal, D will be on him all day - Sea D plays well at home, anyway, not a great overall D, but solid at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So Cal Rugby Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Believe it or not I would go with Warner and have faith that he will score once or twice when getting inside the 12 yard line (0-4 last week). I think the offence is still getting used to each other and the center was missing in week one, I have faith in the Cardinals o, never thought i would say that, but i do. Warner...FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bent1969 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 you have to go with collins. their both unpredictable qb's. so go with the that got moss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedroz13 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 I would actually go with Collins on this one. I am not up to trusting Warner yet. Collins hasn't had a bad game yet (fantasy wise) and has more potential. Good luck, thanks for looking at my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tally Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I like Warner this week. Both teams will be airing it out in garbage time. The difference is Sea has no D and Philly has an excellent D, espically the DB's. Lewis and Dawkins can shut guys down and they will slow down Moss, not saying he dossent get his numbers, but it wont be one of his better games this year. Ya also gotta give some props to the WR on AZ Boldin and Fitz are both capable of causing some damage. Warner is good for 270-300 and 2 Td's this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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