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Agreed BC. Limit poker is a weird game. Jamming a pot preflop (while always correct with a big hand) prices other players in to make calls on draws later in the hand, and with the limits, there is often no way to push them off of it. I stay away from limit games, overall I have lost at them. I do best at mid level buy in tournies (and by mid level I mean 50-250.)

 

 

See, I started poker as a 7-stud guy. Much better game than Hold Em, but nowadays there is not enough money or players in it. SO, that made the transition to limit poker easy. In limit poker, it is a very mathematical game. Figuring out the odds if you are priced to call with a hand like 89 suited or not because there are already 5 callers in, etc. SO, you must jam with big hands, calculate the odds, and know that long term, if you play the math right, you will end up ahead.

 

Only recently have I started focusing on tourney play other than sit n gos, and I am really enjoying it.... helps to have had a nice run of success. I like some of the smaller sites as they ususally only get 150-250 players, which means I dont have to commit 6 hours to a tourney against 2000 players, but often can get the same payout for a good finish.

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7 card stud

 

Four final guys (Chan busted in 7th)

 

1. David Williams

2. John Hoang

3. Jack Duncan

4. Mitchell Ledis

 

...#3 & #4 have about the same number of chips and are severely short stacked... Hoang has about 60% as many chips as Williams.

 

I don't think there was anyone of note in the top 16 other than Williams and Chan.

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$1500 limit holdem

 

...iirc, no one has any of the final 26 guys...

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$5000 Omaha High/Lo

 

down to 23 players

 

1Mike Henrich140,000

2Jim Ferrel118,000 $

2Gavin Smith118,000

4Sam Farha90,000

5Richard Ashby83,000

6Ryan Hughes81,000

7Kirill Gerasimov80,000

8Mike Wattel63,000

8Steve Cowley63,000

10Brian Nadell59,000

11Phil Ivey56,000

12Lonnie Heimowitz48,000

13Jason Zimmerman43,000

14Jeffrey King40,000

15Brent Carter37,000

16Brett Jungblut36,000

17Arthur Vandermeeren26,000

18Chris Ferguson22,000

19Van Marcus20,000

20Michael O'Malley18,000

21Andrew Bloch17,000

22Mike Caro15,000

23Jeff Freedman12,000

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$2500 no limit ... 55 players left ...

 

Chip leaders include:

 

2 Michael Mizrachi

4 Scott Fischman

7 Mark Seif

10 Clonie Gowen

11 Chad Brown

12 Todd Brunson

13 Men Nguyen

15 Barry Greenstein

17 Erick Lindgren

24 John D'Agostino

28 Annie Duke

33 Mike Matusow

34 Freddy Deeb

37 Michael Gracz (dammit, I should have taken the time to look up his name ... I couldn't remember it when filling out my list ... remembered the guy, but couldn't remember his name ... ugh)

38 Marco Traniello

41 Erik Seidel

47 Tony Guoga

48 Kenna James

54 Juan Carlos Mortensen

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Going home now...

 

David Williams is leading (barely) in 7 card stud ... and it's now down to three.

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$5000 Omaha

 

...18 left...

 

1. Sam Farha

5. Phil Ivey

13. Chris Ferguson

16. Mike Caro

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$5000 Omaha

 

...18 left...

 

1. Sam Farha

5. Phil Ivey

13. Chris Ferguson

16. Mike Caro

 

You can bet every other guy left in this wants to see Ivey out of there ASAP. He is dangerous when stacked in chips.

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I've been playing alot of limit poker lately (at slightly lower limits than $50k/$100k :D ) - I think if you play a very tight, by-the-book game, you can win at low stakes (say up to $3/$6) limit poker at a 10-man table fairly consistently. But it's pretty hard to maintain the discipline - playing by-the-book means you are folding pre-flop an extremely high percentage of the time, and quite frankly it's not even that much fun, although it is profitable. I've been playing at 6-man tables, and while I'm winning more than I'm losing, I'm still trying to find the right balance between the extremely tight approach that works for a 10-man table and the extremely aggressive approach that I think works at HU. You can't win long-term at 6-man tables without looseining up your starting hand requirements (versus what is preached in the various books out there, which is seemingly always catered to a full table game), but I'm still struggling to find the right balance.

 

 

On-line limit games are where it's at. Play multi-tables (I play 3) and folding many hands pre-flop isn't so bad. I do agree that it's more of a numbers game, but patience is ultimately what is going to win you the money over the long haul.

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$2500 no limit

 

45 left ... of note ...

 

2. Men Nguyen

3. Mark Seif

4. Erick Lindgren

7. Todd Brunson

8. Scott Fischman

8. Clonie Gowen

10. Joe Cassidy

11. Chad Brown

11. Max Pescatori

17. Mike Matusow

19. Michael Mizrachi

20. Annie Duke

28. Barry Greenstein

33. Michael Gracz

38. Erik Seidel

42. Kenna James

43. Freddy Deeb

44. Tony Guoga

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You can bet every other guy left in this wants to see Ivey out of there ASAP. He is dangerous when stacked in chips.

 

 

Just checked it after I saw your post, and Ivey just took a big hit, losing about 40% of his stack and is now #11 ... and Chris Ferguson just busted at #17 (apparently, he doesn't know he's on my team and we only get paid for top 16 finishes).

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On-line limit games are where it's at. Play multi-tables (I play 3) and folding many hands pre-flop isn't so bad. I do agree that it's more of a numbers game, but patience is ultimately what is going to win you the money over the long haul.

 

 

Agreed.. I stick to low limits, but easily 3 table the 2-4 and 3-6 games and have turned a tidy profit over the years. (Nothing extraordinary, but enough to buy a few nice gifts each year)

 

But, as noted in a previous post, I am working on my tourney game now, so now I generally play in a tourney and have a low limit cash game going so I dont get impatient in the tourney.

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7 card stud

 

Its over. David Williams won and Johnny Chan got 7th. I can't (quickly) find a list of all the folks in the top 16...

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Omaha $5000

 

Still alive...

 

1Mike Wattel312,000

2Sam Farha255,000

3Kirill Gerasimov186,000

4Phil Ivey174,000

5Jim Ferrel143,000

6Ryan Hughes106,000

7Mike Henrich62,000

8Brian Nadell47,000

9Jeffrey King40,000

 

Already busted out.

 

10Jeff Freedman

11Jason Zimmerman

12Richard Ashby

13Arthur Vandermeeren

14Mike Caro

15Brent Carter

16Van Marcus

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$2500 no limit holdem

 

45 left ... of note ...

 

4. Men Nguyen

9. Clonie Gowen

10. Scott Fischman

11. David Chiu

13. Annie Duke

13. Todd Brunson

17. Mike Matusow

19. Erik Seidel

22. Erick Lindgren

25. Joe Cassidy

26. Mark Seif

31. Max Pescatori

34. Freddy Deeb

35. Barry Greenstein

39. Tony Guoga

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$5000 Omaha

 

...six left including Farha and Ivey...

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$5000 Omaha

 

...six left including Farha and Ivey...

 

What's 1st place in this event take?

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7 card stud ... top 16 finishers ...

 

1. David Williams

2. John Hoang

3. Jack Duncan

4. Mitchell Ledis

5. John Cernuto

6. Ivan Schertzer

7. Johnny Chan

8. Matt Hawrilenko

9. Mark Dickstein

10. Victor Shkurka

11. Jon Knauf

12. Tam Nguyen

13. Charlie Ng

14. Jim McManus

15. Neal Freits

16. John Womack

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What's 1st place in this event take?

 

 

$398,560 to Sam Farha

 

2. Phil Ivey

3. Kirill Gerasimov

4. Mike Henrich

5. Mike Wattel

6. Brian Nadell

7. Jeffrey King

8. Jim Ferrel

9. Ryan Hughes

10. Jeff Freedman

11. Jason Zimmerman

12. Richard Ashby

13. Arthur Vandermeeren

14. Mike Caro

15. Brent R. Carter

16. Van Marcus

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$1500 Limit Hold-em

 

Three left

 

1. Bob Chalmers

2. Tam Ho

3. Warren Woolridge

 

4. Thanh Nguyen

5. Doug Saab

6. Jan Siavik

7. Graham Duke

8. Bob Bartmann

9. David Calla

10. Michelle Lancaster

11. Adam Smith

12. David Baker

13. Zack Fritz

14. Alan Steinberg

15. Guy Cicconi

16. Bob Addison

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$2500 no limit ... 24 left ... of note ...

 

1. Mike Matusow

6. Max Pescatori

14. David Chiu

21. Erick Lindgren

24. Joe Cassidy

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$1000 no limit holdem

 

62 players left ... of note ...

 

6. Chip Jett

8. Gavin Smith

9. Kenna James

10. Amir Vahedi

11. Daniel Negreanu

12. Phil Gordon

13. Mimi Tran

17. John Cernuto

20. Barry Greenstein

24. Michael Gracz

28. Tony Guoga

31. Allen Cunningham

32. Huck Seed

33. Annie Duke

34. Ted Forrest

35. Nam Le

38. Joe Awada

40. Greg Raymer

48. John Juanda

52. Tim Phan

53. Andrew Bloch

55. Marco Traniello

59. Dewey Tomko

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$2500 no limit ... down to nine ...

 

1Mike Matusow3,350,000

2Anthony Reategui959,000

3Terrence Chan494,000

4Max Pescatori464,000

5Justin Pechie357,000

6Corey Cheresnick249,000

7Michael Scott146,000

8Tri Ma117,000

9Matt Heintschel116,000

 

10William Lin

11David Derringer

12Sarah Bilney

13Larry Weinberg

14Melissa Hayden

15David Chiu

16Jay Fung

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$1000 no limit ($1000 rebuy)

 

... still a bunch left ... of note:

 

5. Amir Vahedi

9. Michael Gracz

16. Kenna James

25. Phil Gordon

26. John Juanda

32. Tony Guoga

37. Huck Seed

50. John Cernuto

51. Allen Cunningham

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$1000 Ladies No-Limit (no rebuy)

 

6. Cyndy Violette

12. Jennifer Tilly

 

...??? Ricki Lake, Mimi Rogers and Jean Smart are playing ???

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