bushwacked Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 And despite your googling, as you said, you have yet to produce one fact contradicting any of what was put forth in the article I posted. Furthermore, the article clearly points out even to the most elementary reader that the data used for CO2 emissions to prove man-made global warming were obviously and blatantly fudged to acommodate the theory. im still googling got tons of stuff just wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 BB is actually really proud of himself that he can search the innernets and cherry pick articles from an vast minority of scientists. I said it before, I'll say it again - disprove the claims being made. And funny that you'd use the words "cherry picking" when that's exactly what's being done with the CO2 numbers to scare uneducated weakminded people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I said it before, I'll say it again - disprove the claims being made. And funny that you'd use the words "cherry picking" when that's exactly what's being done with the CO2 numbers to scare uneducated weakminded people. like republicans ??? oh i have some ill post it soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 uneducated weakminded people. Would that include people who can't comprehend a simple graph and have no clue what the current scientific consensus opinion is on the antrhopogenic effects on global warming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) current scientific consensus opinion is on the antrhopogenic effects on global warming? I don't think using this consensus argument is a very good way to go about proving your point. There are plenty of examples where consensus scientific opinion was later proved to be absolutely wrong. Edited April 12, 2007 by The Irish Doggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Would that include people who can't comprehend a simple graph and have no clue what the current scientific consensus opinion is on the antrhopogenic effects on global warming? Did you even look at the article showing how the data was cherry picked - or even the graph showing which values were included & which were excluded? Did you see the CO2 levels that were measured from years as recent as 2 decades ago up to millions of years ago were much higher than that 330 ppm standard you want to hold as proof of your assertions? That graph you want to use has no value - it has been badly skewed by intentionally omitted data left out to prove that man-made CO2 is the cause of global warming, even if studies show CO2 is a lagging factor to warming temperatures, and not a leading factor. The graph (and its "amazingly" high 1 point - ) that you want to hold as your standard of proof for your entire argument has no relevance whatsoever. Edited April 12, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I don't think using this consensus argument is a very good way to go about proving your point. There are plenty of examples where consensus scientific opinion was later proved to be absolutely wrong. Shhhhhh! Using facts isn't allowed here. Science by consensus is okay as long as it backs a ridiculous lib position that can't be proven through scientific facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I don't think using this consensus argument is a very good way to go about proving your point. There are plenty of examples where consensus scientific opinion was later proved to be absolutely wrong. I'm not sure you get my point. I think the scientific consensus has to be factored heavily in a weight of evidence approach, the BB's of the world, fail to acknowledge the overwhelming majority opinion exists. And to address your post directly, there are many more examples of the consensus scientific opinion later proving to be accurate than absolutely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think the scientific consensus has to be factored heavily in a weight of evidence approach, And of course, when the consensus opinion is directly contradicted by scientific facts, the scientific facts always take a back seat to opinion, don't they? Geez, that's incredible to think that any rational adult would think that opinion has any weight in science when compared to fact. Sounds like you're a good candidate to join the Flat Earth Society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 And of course, when the consensus opinion is directly contradicted by scientific facts, the scientific facts always take a back seat to opinion, don't they? Geez, that's incredible to think that any rational adult would think that opinion has any weight in science when compared to fact. Sounds like you're a good candidate to join the Flat Earth Society. A professional scientific opinion is based on science goofball. The evidence collected thus far leads the overwhelming majority of climatologists to conclude that it is almost certain the humans have an effect on global warming. BB talking science = Blitz talking bout dead horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 A professional scientific opinion is based on science goofball. The evidence collected thus far leads the overwhelming majority of climatologists to conclude that it is almost certain the humans have an effect on global warming. BB talking science = Blitz talking bout dead horses. And at what point does an opinion supercede a fact in science? Geez, having a conversation with you is like a Martian talking to a fungo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 These the same weathermen that can't tell me what the weekend weather is gonna be with 19% accuracy, but can predict the climate for the next 100 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 These the same weathermen that can't tell me what the weekend weather is gonna be with 19% accuracy, but can predict the climate for the next 100 years? Tim, Tim, Tim...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 im still googling got tons of stuff just wait I'm still waiting on pins and needles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Just checking in to see if Yukon posted any of that vast pool of evidence he found to refute the report stating that the CO2 data was badly fudged... Didn't think he would, despite his boasting that he had plenty of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) ...and 2) the crass way this demagoguery is employed in furtherance of a specific political agenda that, in realtity, predates and supercedes any concern over anthropogenic global warming. Related to the sole issue of CO2 = Global Warming and a failure to incorporate ALL factors in one's argument... This pretty much sums it up. Thanx Edited April 17, 2007 by McBoog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 McBoog, BB...we won. We pwnd them. We humbled them. They are begging for mercy from whatever God they worship. Our arrows blotted out the sun saving the planet from global warming. Ursa is now a Minoris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) McBoog, BB...we won. We pwnd them. We humbled them. They are begging for mercy from whatever God they worship. Our arrows blotted out the sun saving the planet from global warming. Ursa is now a Minoris. Nah, doing this became too wearisome. It's nice when it stops. Edited April 17, 2007 by Ursa Majoris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Ooops. Hi Ursa. :waves: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Nah, doing this became too wearisome. It's nice when it stops. Arguing from an indefensible position will do that to a person... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 cutting and running.....i love it!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 we have been breaking records for a month now. 102 today and i live in the northern rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 (edited) Using a simple outdoor thermometer I have come to the conclusion that it gets warmer EVERY YEAR during the summer months. Coincidence? Hmmm. I think not. Edited July 18, 2007 by The Holy Roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 Using a simple outdoor thermometer I have come to the conclusion that it gets warmerEVERY YEAR during the summer months. Coincidence? Hmmm. I think not. 06 was the hottest year every recorded. 2nd is 1998. this year is record breaking. nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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