Footballjoe Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (Rotoworld) Coach Mike McCarthy confirmed Monday that the Packers will switch to a 3-4 defense under new coordinator Dom Capers. Analysis: The player most affected will be LE Aaron Kampman, who's been a base 4-3 end his entire career. He isn't ideally built to occupy blockers as most 3-4 ends do. The Packers may ask Kampman to shed weight and play with his hand up as an outside linebacker, or have him add pounds to get more stout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) (Rotoworld) Coach Mike McCarthy confirmed Monday that the Packers will switch to a 3-4 defense under new coordinator Dom Capers. Analysis: The player most affected will be LE Aaron Kampman, who's been a base 4-3 end his entire career. He isn't ideally built to occupy blockers as most 3-4 ends do. The Packers may ask Kampman to shed weight and play with his hand up as an outside linebacker, or have him add pounds to get more stout. I think this bodes well for his sack total but his tackles might decrease during the transition year. Whatever the case, this will bolster my LB position on a few teams if indeed he switches to OLB. Edited January 20, 2009 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would think this would be good news for Bishop, correct? What are the chances he plays the middle with Barnett? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would think this would be good news for Bishop, correct?What are the chances he plays the middle with Barnett? Probably. Decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would think this would be good news for Bishop, correct?What are the chances he plays the middle with Barnett? such a homer. I wonder if AJ Hawk's Vulva will heal in time for OTA's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I would think this would be good news for Bishop, correct?What are the chances he plays the middle with Barnett? I gotta believe that AJ Hawk and Nick Barnett would make a better ILB tandem. But then again, somebody has to play OLB. Brandon Chillar and Brady Poppinga probably aren't going to scare too many teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I gotta believe that AJ Hawk and Nick Barnett would make a better ILB tandem. But then again, somebody has to play OLB. Brandon Chillar and Brady Poppinga probably aren't going to scare too many teams. Poppinga is a converted DE so he does have that going for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I gotta believe that AJ Hawk and Nick Barnett would make a better ILB tandem. AJ Hawk has shown that he should not be an MLB. The guy is pretty good at OLB, horrid on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 AJ Hawk has shown that he should not be an MLB. The guy is pretty good at OLB, horrid on the inside. you dont really see him as a OLB in a 3-4, now do you? Not saying it couldnt happen but I would be surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Wouldn't mind seeing them grab an OT in round one and a guy like Cushing/Matthews/English later on to play across from Kampman. Edited January 23, 2009 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 AJ Hawk has shown that he should not be an MLB. The guy is pretty good at OLB, horrid on the inside. I actually think Hawk would make a decent Ted LB in the 3-4. Not a stud by any stretch but acceptable; similar to Takeo Spikes in San Francisco this year. Being a 4-3 Mike is a lot different than playing inside in the 3-4. Hawk wouldn't have to play WILB. I'd imagine Barnett would play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) This could actually get pretty ugly. I suspect they'll take a LB in the first few rounds. E2A: The mock draft site I love to read has the Packers taking UT's Brian Orakpo. Dude is a pass-rush specialist. Edited January 23, 2009 by darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 This could actually get pretty ugly. I suspect they'll take a LB in the first few rounds. E2A: The mock draft site I love to read has the Packers taking UT's Brian Orakpo. Dude is a pass-rush specialist. Draft Countdown had Orakpo at #9 before Capers got there, so he may switch it up in the next mock. I'd rather have an OT or Brown from FSU if we went LB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 This could actually get pretty ugly. I suspect they'll take a LB in the first few rounds. Agreed. We could have to wait until training camp to see how the dust settles. I could be wrong, but I believe Bishop is an FA this off season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Agreed. We could have to wait until training camp to see how the dust settles.I could be wrong, but I believe Bishop is an FA this off season as well. He has only 2 years experience, and he has a 4-year contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Draft Countdown had Orakpo at #9 before Capers got there, so he may switch it up in the next mock. I'd rather have an OT or Brown from FSU if we went LB. Figured that may be the case. Brown probably fits the 3-4 mold... although he's much bigger than one of his predecessors, Lawrence Timmons, he could have the same kind of impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 If I had to guess, I'd say training camp opens up like this: LE - Montgomery NT - Pickett RE - Jenkins LOLB - Kampman ILB - Hawk ILB - Barnett/Bishop ROLB - Poppinga Barnett's situation is all dependent on his knee - I think Bishop will see a good amount of time on the field as Nick gets back to health. I think one of the most interesting guys to watch is Montgomery. He's probably too light to be the full-time LE in a 3-4, but the staff liked how he finished the season last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tford Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 The Packers could probably get a few decent guys to play rush LB for their 3-4 in the draft. From where guys fall, they probably have their pick or who they want early except for Aaron Maybin of Penn State, who I think goes in the 20s or the 30s overall. 1.09 - One of Everette Brown, FSU or Brian Orakpo, UT. Brown makes more sense than Orakpo though. 2.09 - One of Clint Sintim, Virginia or Larry English, Northern Illinois. Sintim has a chance to crack round 1 but I've seen him fall in a couple mocks. What are the odds that the Pack tries to trade Kampman? If Allen gets a 1st and 2 3rds, surely Kampman gets them a 1st and a 4th? Might make sense to try to draft your players rather than convert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 What are the odds that the Pack tries to trade Kampman? If Allen gets a 1st and 2 3rds, surely Kampman gets them a 1st and a 4th? Might make sense to try to draft your players rather than convert. I doubt it... Allen is three years younger, is more of an impact player, and has no injury history. Kampman's solid, but not a game-changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ryan Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Darin is right. Kampman has the motor, but not the skill of Allen. Id bet Kamp would fetch a 2nd at best. 3rd rounder for sure. Not sure he is athletic enough to rush the passer as an OLB, and would be a liability in any coverage scheme. Interesting option might be to move him inside at DT like Jay Ratliff, and let his quickness cause havoc there. I know it sounds crazy he can play inside, and will get pounded as an 3-4 DE, but that simply may be the case. Pack are not smart imo to make this move. They have 2 decent cover corners, active safeties, and better than average LBs. plus a solid DL. Usually a scheme change like this is a coach's hard on, or personel already on hand to make it work. Not sure its wise without the latter. Edited January 27, 2009 by Sgt Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Darin is right. Kampman has the motor, but not the skill of Allen. Id bet Kamp would fetch a 2nd at best. 3rd rounder for sure. Not sure he is athletic enough to rush the passer as an OLB, and would be a liability in any coverage scheme. Interesting option might be to move him inside at DT like Jay Ratliff, and let his quickness cause havoc there. I know it sounds crazy he can play inside, and will get pounded as an 3-4 DE, but that simply may be the case. Pack are not smart imo to make this move. They have 2 decent cover corners, active safeties, and better than average LBs. plus a solid DL. Usually a scheme change like this is a coach's hard on, or personel already on hand to make it work. Not sure its wise without the latter. Only if Nick Barnett returns to form after his knee injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Darin is right. Kampman has the motor, but not the skill of Allen. Id bet Kamp would fetch a 2nd at best. 3rd rounder for sure. Not sure he is athletic enough to rush the passer as an OLB, and would be a liability in any coverage scheme. Interesting option might be to move him inside at DT like Jay Ratliff, and let his quickness cause havoc there. I know it sounds crazy he can play inside, and will get pounded as an 3-4 DE, but that simply may be the case. Pack are not smart imo to make this move. They have 2 decent cover corners, active safeties, and better than average LBs. plus a solid DL. Usually a scheme change like this is a coach's hard on, or personel already on hand to make it work. Not sure its wise without the latter. Kampman was a LB until his junior year in college. I still have hope they'll be able to make him an OLB. You never get value when you're forced to trade someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Kampman was a LB until his junior year in college. I still have hope they'll be able to make him an OLB. You never get value when you're forced to trade someone. Well, he's no bigger than, say, Calvin Pace... who's an OLB in the 3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Well, he's no bigger than, say, Calvin Pace... who's an OLB in the 3-4. That's true. He'd have to lose weight. It is a longshot but I remain hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 That's true. He'd have to lose weight. It is a longshot but I remain hopeful. He's only 3 lbs. heavier than Pace, if we want to go on what the teams are reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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