CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I did not catch the speech. On CNN just now they mentioned that only 8% of viewers had a negative reaction to it. I find that number astounding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 A - We just spent the last 8 years growing govt. to unprecedented size and scope,that will never alone make us great. B- It matters what we spend that money on; even and/or especially if it comes from govt. C - Although the individual truly makes America great,your insinuation that less regulation automatically helps our nation hits a big F'n hurdle called reality. D - Back to the insinuation. If you guys had your way during WW2 we would be speaking German or Japanese. No insinuation was intended...however, I can understand (from reading your previous posts you seem to have an itchy trigger finger)why you might want to jump to that conclusion. Actually, I can see where some regulation and oversight is in order, this is not an issue with me as I do not have a full "lazie faire" approach to the economy. And even though as you love to point out, it has grown the past 8 years, how is that an answer for why it should do even more. More importantly, why can't Obama say, "well we may need to grow gov't. here but we can shrink gov't in these places!" Methinks it is because his party never sees why there isn't a need for gov't involvement. The real hurdle for me is that once the gov't gets involved in anything, it's worse than pulling teeth for them to relinquish control. It about power to these guys, and that's the reality. Not that the repubs have done any better in this regard over the last 8 years... they lost my trust as Bobby Jindal said. Just get me over these roadblocks and I'm ready to give it a go! Oh and BTW, I Iean the opposite of your democrats, but that shouldn't classify me as a "you guys". This and my last post can be my evidence of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I did not catch the speech. On CNN just now they mentioned that only 8% of viewers had a negative reaction to it. I find that number astounding. Not from CNN I don't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 More importantly, why can't Obama say, "well we may need to grow gov't. here but we can shrink gov't in these places!" I thought he addressed that tonight. Whether it comes to fruition or not, is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 And even though as you love to point out, it has grown the past 8 years, how is that an answer for why it should do even more. Because, that is going to be the lieberal response to any criticism to what Obama might try to do. ;irishwinktobush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 i bet the unemployed feel much differently how long will it take for these new jobs to open up so they won't be "unemployed" anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Not from CNN I don't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Did he say he was going to cure cancer in the first year or reform healthcare? That Louisiana Indian afterwards sure sounded confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I did not catch the speech. On CNN just now they mentioned that only 8% of viewers had a negative reaction to it. I find that number astounding. Because people that watch CNN are dumber than a box of rocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 He lost me at "free of earmarks." Lots of rhetoric - let's see where the rubber hits the road. not enough enemy/ hate speach for Yah?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 No insinuation was intended...however, I can understand (from reading your previous posts you seem to have an itchy trigger finger)why you might want to jump to that conclusion. Actually, I can see where some regulation and oversight is in order, this is not an issue with me as I do not have a full "lazie faire" approach to the economy. And even though as you love to point out, it has grown the past 8 years, how is that an answer for why it should do even more. More importantly, why can't Obama say, "well we may need to grow gov't. here but we can shrink gov't in these places!" Methinks it is because his party never sees why there isn't a need for gov't involvement. The real hurdle for me is that once the gov't gets involved in anything, it's worse than pulling teeth for them to relinquish control. It about power to these guys, and that's the reality. Not that the repubs have done any better in this regard over the last 8 years... they lost my trust as Bobby Jindal said. Just get me over these roadblocks and I'm ready to give it a go! Oh and BTW, I Iean the opposite of your democrats, but that shouldn't classify me as a "you guys". This and my last post can be my evidence of this. I could have sworn he said something about big government not being the answer in and of itself. The fact remains that right now only the government has enough clout to even begin addressing the issues. The banks have totally forfeited any right to complain from here on in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 not enough enemy/ hate speach for Yah?? Perhaps he could answer this question-"Name one piece of pork" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Perhaps he could answer this question-"Name one piece of pork" It's short enough to quote. From the February 23 edition of MSNBC Live: O'DONNELL: But what about what we just heard Barack Obama say about a new era of responsibility and fiscal restraint? Let's bring in Republican strategist John Feehery. John, you were just here squirming in your chair as the president was speaking. What's the big deal? FEEHERY: Well, you passed the biggest, pork-filled stimulus -- whatever you want to call it -- bill in history, and now you're talking about fiscal responsibility. They should have talked about it before they did this bill; it would have been a better bill. If they would have cut this bill in half, geared it right to stimulus, I think a lot of economists including Alice Rivlin would have said that was the right approach. But they go first with this huge pork bill -- O'DONNELL: Name one piece of pork. FEEHERY: Uh, well -- you can't do that to me right now. I can't think of it right now. But it's a huge bunch of stuff that we don't even know what's in there. O'DONNELL: Well, the reason I ask you that -- I don't mean to put you on the spot and everything -- but it's not pork. A lot of people say what it is is infrastructure spending. It is spending that is stimulative. That's what the White House says. Scarborough was surprised by Politifact on "Morning Joe" that the mouse protection argument was completely false. He said, "You mean the Republicans LIED to me?" Edited February 25, 2009 by cre8tiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 not enough enemy/ hate speach for Yah?? Did you catch the part about when the Republicans were cheering something and then Obama wisecracked about "the deficit *I* inherited" and the Democrats started mocking their cheer with their own cheer. These people are schoolchildren. I can't believe they spend most of the day calling each other "honorable" and kissing each other's ass. I do not want these people making decisions for me. They are completely unqualified for the task. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 O'DONNELL: Name one piece of pork. FEEHERY: Uh, well -- you can't do that to me right now. I can't think of it right now. But it's a huge bunch of stuff that we don't even know what's in there. :D Open mouth, insert foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Why doesn't Obama get elected and then hang out at Camp David like he's suppose to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Did you catch the part about when the Republicans were cheering something and then Obama wisecracked about "the deficit *I* inherited" and the Democrats started mocking their cheer with their own cheer. These people are schoolchildren. I can't believe they spend most of the day calling each other "honorable" and kissing each other's ass. I do not want these people making decisions for me. They are completely unqualified for the task. Period. sounds like the british parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 It's short enough to quote. Scarborough was surprised by Politifact on "Morning Joe" that the mouse protection argument was completely false. He said, "You mean the Republicans LIED to me?" Whether or not there is pork these bills are simply spending we can not afford. You realize that in one month Obama has put us in more debt than the war in Iraq has cost us in 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driveby Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Perhaps he could answer this question-"Name one piece of pork" What's the name of the bill again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Whether or not there is pork these bills are simply spending we can not afford. You realize that in one month Obama has put us in more debt than the war in Iraq has cost us in 6 years. Shipping pallet loads of cash overseas is not the same thing as recycling the money through our own economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Because people that watch CNN are dumber than a box of rocks? Probably because all the doubters were watching Hannity on FOX. Sometimes he's unwatchable for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Shipping pallet loads of cash overseas is not the same thing as recycling the money through our own economy. Most of the equipment being used over seas was built here, most of the shipping was done by American's using American vehicles, most of the people doing the work are Americans. The left is writing checks we can't cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Most of the equipment being used over seas was built here, most of the shipping was done by American's using American vehicles, most of the people doing the work are Americans. The left is writing checks we can't cover. He is being literal. Pallets of $100 bills amounting to billions of dollars were shipped by aircraft fleet to Iraq and promptly lost / given away but in any case are unaccounted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Did he say he was going to cure cancer in the first year or reform healthcare? That Louisiana Indian afterwards sure sounded confused. How does that Louisiana dude have the time to govern his state and read the stimulus bill in his spare time? The same stimulus bill that supposedly got passed without much reading going on in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 He is being literal. Pallets of $100 bills amounting to billions of dollars were shipped by aircraft fleet to Iraq and promptly lost / given away but in any case are unaccounted for. Like the taxes of Obama's cabinet? Has he got a Secretary of Commerce yet? Maybe the third time will be a charm. We can't trust the guy to vet his own cabinet, he comes from a state where politics are corrupt (hell everyone in the state is dirty except Obama), and we are supposed to trust him with what is the biggest group of spending bills ever passed in our history. I hope any short term help this gives us is worth the long term agony it is going to force on the tax payer. Granted less than 1/2 the people that voted for Obama actually pay taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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