Outshined Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Mauer is one of five American League players to have at least 25 home runs and at least a .380 batting average this late in the season. The others were Ted Williams (1941 and 1957), Joe DiMaggio (1939), Lou Gehrig (1930 and 1936) and Babe Ruth (1931). Link I hope the Twins keep him since he a hometown kid. I am sure some team will give him a $200 million contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Link I hope the Twins keep him since he a hometown kid. I am sure some team will give him a $200 million contract. If we don't keep him, we may as well pack it in. Fans will vote with their feet and it's likely the new Target Field will get burned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If we don't keep him, we may as well pack it in. Fans will vote with their feet and it's likely the new Target Field will get burned down. Modern construction standards will cause the stadium to be fire-retardant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Modern construction standards will cause the stadium to be fire-retardant. Oh and how I would LOVE Joe Mauer to play for the Tigers. He is seriously great and appears to be a good guy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Modern construction standards will cause the stadium to be fire-retardant. And I should know...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Looks like Teixiera is giving him a run too. He was a great signing for the Yanks. These 2 guys are good for the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackshi17 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) How can you qualify for MVP on the ninth ranked team in the American League and a sub .500 team? I mean its not like opposing teams are setting up their "ace" starters against Minn like they do against the Yankees, Angels and Red Sux. Edited August 24, 2009 by jackshi17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 How can you qualify for MVP on the ninth ranked team in the American League and a sub .500 team? I mean its not like opposing teams are setting up their "ace" starters against Minn like they do against the Yankees, Angels and Red Sux. Fair point but occasionally a player outperforms the rest of the league enough that he overcomes that. And this isn't the playoffs. Most pitchers pitch every fifth day regardless of competition. I wouldn't count that against Mauer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) Fair point but occasionally a player outperforms the rest of the league enough that he overcomes that. It isn't a fair point at all, IMO. Without Mauer this year, the Twins would have been out of the race long since. That clearly makes him the Most Valuable Player. It's an individual award and the team should have nothing to do with it other than gauging the effect the player has had. There is no way that Jeter has had the same impact on the Yankees as Mauer has on the Twins. Edited August 25, 2009 by Ursa Majoris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 It isn't a fair point at all, IMO. Without Mauer this year, the Twins would have been out of the race long since. That clearly makes him the Most Valuable Player. It's an individual award and the team should have nothing to do with it other than gauging the effect the player has had. There is no way that Jeter has had the same impact on the Yankees as Mauer has on the Twins. I think that's pretty accurate but generally speaking MVP's come from winning teams...right or wrong, with the exception of the occasional Andre Dawson thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I think that's pretty accurate but generally speaking MVP's come from winning teams...right or wrong, with the exception of the occasional Andre Dawson thrown in. I completely agree with what you say but I still think the concept is total BS if team performance is the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 How can you qualify for MVP on the ninth ranked team in the American League and a sub .500 team? I mean its not like opposing teams are setting up their "ace" starters against Minn like they do against the Yankees, Angels and Red Sux. Three of the Twins starters are on the DL: Slowey, Perkins and Liriano, yet the Twins are still in contention. They have been spot filling those starting positions. Mauer hit 391 in the month of August, 8 homeruns and 23 RBI's, but it its not just the offense, I think he is just as valuable or more behind the plate defensively and calling the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moss6 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 2 back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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griff321 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I read a NY Times article about Jeter and how he should get the MVP over Mauer because Jeter's role as leader and all around great guy should make up for the massive statistical difference. GTFO! The MVP has and always will be an INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. Just because a small market team can't go out and sign every name out there, doesn't mean a player should have to suffer. NY just needs to get over the fact that they don't have the best player in baseball on their team. If I was starting a team, I'd still take the M&M boys before anyone in NY and I think a lot of other people would too. Oh and 2 games Dome Sweet Dome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moss6 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Ok, 3 back again Twins really have no business being in a pennant race this season, but they sure make it fun every September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Ok, 3 back again Twins really have no business being in a pennant race this season, but they sure make it fun every September More than most sports franchises, they make it fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 It'd be good for baseball (imo) if Mauer won MVP and Greinke won Cy Young... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 It'd be good for baseball (imo) if Mauer won MVP and Greinke won Cy Young... Grienke is on fire ... really closing out the year strong ... and is pitching so much better than anyone else in the AL, it'd be a shame if anyone else won the AL Cy Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) AL Pitching Leaders These seven categories (wins, ERA, shutouts, strikeouts, WHIP, slugging and OBA) are each (currently) led by one of three guys -- Greinke, Sabathia, Hernandez and Verlander. So, considerinly only the players in the top 10 in wins, here is how each of these three guys ranks in all seven categories: Greinke: t-6th Wins (15) 1st ERA (2.08) 1st Shutouts (3) 2nd Strikeouts (229) 1st WHIP (1.06) 2nd Slugging (.336) 1st OBA (.272) Sabathia: 1st Wins (18) 4th ERA (3.31) t-5th Shutouts (1) 7th Strikeouts (186) 2nd WHIP (1.13) 4th Slugging (.361) 2nd OBA (.287) Verlander: t-3rd Wins (16) 6th ERA (3.44) t-5th Shutouts (1) 1st Strikeouts (245) 6th WHIP (1.18) 6th Slugging (.376) 6th OBA (.297) Hernandez: t-3rd Wins (16) 2nd ERA (2.45) t-5th Shutouts (1) 4th Strikeouts (196) 3rd WHIP (1.14) 1st Slugging (.320) 3rd OBA (.288) ...the only thing Grienke hasn't been able to do this year is get consistent run support...and that is hardly his problem... Edited September 24, 2009 by muck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 AL Pitching Leaders These seven categories (wins, ERA, shutouts, strikeouts, WHIP, slugging and OBA) are each (currently) led by one of three guys -- Greinke, Sabathia and Verlander. So, considerinly only the players in the top 10 in wins, here is how each of these three guys ranks in all seven categories: Greinke: t-6th Wins (15) 1st ERA (2.08) 1st Shutouts (3) 2nd Strikeouts (229) 1st WHIP (1.06) 2nd Slugging (.336) 1st OBA (.272) Sabathia: 1st Wins (18) 4th ERA (3.31) t-5th Shutouts (1) 7th Strikeouts (186) 2nd WHIP (1.13) 4th Slugging (.361) 2nd OBA (.287) Verlander: t-3rd Wins (16) 6th ERA (3.44) t-5th Shutouts (1) 1st Strikeouts (245) 6th WHIP (1.18) 6th Slugging (.376) 6th OBA (.297) ...the only thing Grienke hasn't been able to do this year is get consistent run support...and that is hardly his problem... Hard to argue with you. Dude has been on fire all year. As much as I like Verlander, Greinke should get it. Only real competition is Sabathia I believe. Verlander will probably be 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hard to argue with you. Dude has been on fire all year. As much as I like Verlander, Greinke should get it. Only real competition is Sabathia I believe. Verlander will probably be 3rd. ...note that I missed that Fernandez is the leader in lowest slugging...I added him after you replied... ...also note that Greinke should have at least two more starts...and if he can hang a "one-handle" on that ERA of his (not sure if he can statistically or not), he should be a lock (regardless of whether or not he wins the final two starts or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 ...note that I missed that Fernandez is the leader in lowest slugging...I added him after you replied... ...also note that Greinke should have at least two more starts...and if he can hang a "one-handle" on that ERA of his (not sure if he can statistically or not), he should be a lock (regardless of whether or not he wins the final two starts or not... If Grienke pitches 18 innings in his final two starts and allows two earned runs or less, he will end up with an ERA of less than 2.00 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff321 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 Greinke should win it for sure. I mean to have six complete games with three of them being shut outs and still pitching at such a high level is insane. He just dismantled Boston and Detroit like they were the Nationals but really it boils down to the WHIP of 1.09 which is why I think he gets it over Verlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 If Grienke pitches 18 innings in his final two starts and allows two earned runs or less, he will end up with an ERA of less than 2.00 ... Nooooooooo! I think his last two starts are against the Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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