darin3 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I said as much. Tiger's kids are citizens because they were born here. Actually, you are wrong. You do not even need one citizen parent to be deemed simply a "citizen," as long as you are born on United States soil. That has nothing to do whatsoever with what wiegie and I were discussing, mostly on another thread, and he brought it over here. The issue is about the definition on "natural born citizen," per The Constitution as a requirement for President of the United States. The Supreme Court has never ruled on that as a requirement for POTUS - they have never had to - but they have ruled on simple "citizenship" for everyone born here - but never have they said that everyone born here is "natural born." Could some of you understand that there is a difference? End of story. Congratulations, dmarcette, you've successfully entered "able to turn any thread political" status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Interesting how the press has had two people in this story in SERIOUS condition, that were actually released from the hospital in a matter of hours. Yet when they report Tiger has 12 mistresses and counting, everyone takes that as fact. Werd. A wise man once told me: Think about every single time you see news happen and then read about it or watch a news report on TV. You think to yourself, 'that's not what went down'. However, every time you don't see news happen and simply read about it, you assume they've got it right. Despite the fact that every time you've been able to measure it against what you saw with your own eyes, they were wrong. On the other hand, it seems as often as not, the press comes out with a story that seems pretty fantastic and when the facts are finally revealed, it's even crazier than initially reported. Edited December 8, 2009 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 As we discussed , cheating is certainly a terrible betrayal in a marriage. Sometimes marriages survive it for the sake of the marriage itself and other times ,and probably a bigger reason , for the sake of the children. In this case now that we seem to be up over the 10 women mark ,and with no indication that the number wont climb even higher, Tigers wife absolutely has to leave this guy. If she has any shred of self respect she sould walk. The kids will survive and she will be fine. Obviously finances will never be a problem for her and she is a gorgeous woman. He didnt just have a drunken isolated fling ,it was a blatant pattern of disrespect to her. She must walk here. The high profile wife of divorce always ends up OK in the long run. A year from now she will be in the papaer linked to some Brazilian stud shipping heir named Franco something or other. +1. Normally I say you have to try your best to salvage a relationship when kids are involved, but this is insane. How many freaking women are there?? Sheesh man. A moment of weakness is one thing, nailing as many people as humanly possible for years is another. She can endure years of couples counseling for a chance of possibly trusting him again someday, but I don't know if that's realistic given the seemingly endless parade of whores and the fact that it would be exhausting to follow him to every tournament and event. Tiger's only hope is a pathetic, sobbing, down-on-the-knees beg-fest where he swears on his dead father that he's changed, feels horrible, commits to counseling and complete transparency, etc...then it comes down to whether she loves the man enough to put in all that work to rebuild what he destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogohawk Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe he read Wilt Chamberlain's book and he's going for the record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Maybe he read Wilt Chamberlain's book and he's going for the record? racist. Oops wait I forgot, Woods isn't really black. Just like Obama. Love this story about Woods and Palmer - bravo to Palmer and ..|.. to the whiny Woods, even before he was swinging his richard everywhere. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...id=opinionsbox1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 The middle aged white woman taken from Tiger's house was Sammy Sosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 The middle aged white woman taken from Tiger's house was Sammy Sosa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 i laughed outloud when i got that im'd to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 The middle aged white woman taken from Tiger's house was Sammy Sosa. This whole story is so, so odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Supposedly Tiger sent naked pictures of himself to one of the girls. She has turned the pics over to Playgirl. I'll see if I can find a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Supposedly Tiger sent naked pictures of himself to one of the girls. She has turned the pics over to Playgirl. I'll see if I can find a link. oh man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Supposedly Tiger sent naked pictures of himself to one of the girls. She has turned the pics over to Playgirl. I'll see if I can find a link. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/ne...te-them-2009712 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/ne...te-them-2009712 And we're not even to the cell phone vids or pics that are no doubt out there. I really question whether he was smart enough to prevent that from happening...I'm also hearing the Vegas strip knew about this for at least 2 years. Edited December 8, 2009 by Pope Flick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 It's times like this that I'm reminded, love or hate the Yankees, you've got to hand it to Jeter. The book of Jeter: Be clutch in big games Stay single Stick to high profile, top-shelf babes so you don't have to worry about them selling you out for 15 minutes of fame if things go south. You find out he's hitting something new and it's "Atta boy Jetes!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) And in an amazingly-timed coincidence Gatorade just dropped Tiger: In an official statement released Tuesday, the company said: "We decided several months ago to discontinue Gatorade Tiger Focus along with some other products to make room for our planned series of innovative products in 2010. We hope to share more about our 2010 plans soon." Edited December 8, 2009 by wiegie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 And in an amazingly-timed coincidence Gatorade just dropped Tiger: Yet another completely plausible and believable story related to this whole mess. It's no "I had to bust out both back windows with a golf club in order to save my husband" but it's close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I don't think Gatorade dropped Tiger...I think they just discontinued that drink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I don't think Gatorade dropped Tiger...I think they just discontinued that drink. They "fixed the glitch" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Lame but FWIW - knew it wouldn't take long: http://www.addictinggames.com/tigerparkingslam.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I said as much. Tiger's kids are citizens because they were born here. Actually, you are wrong. You do not even need one citizen parent to be deemed simply a "citizen," as long as you are born on United States soil. That has nothing to do whatsoever with what wiegie and I were discussing, mostly on another thread, and he brought it over here. The issue is about the definition on "natural born citizen," per The Constitution as a requirement for President of the United States. The Supreme Court has never ruled on that as a requirement for POTUS - they have never had to - but they have ruled on simple "citizenship" for everyone born here - but never have they said that everyone born here is "natural born." Could some of you understand that there is a difference? End of story. Actually, I think that if you reread what I wrote, you'll discover that I am not wrong. My first sentence said, "If you're born in the US, you're a US citizen." I think that if you could find a way to dial down the "I'm speaking to idiots" tone in your posts, you might find people a bit more open to discussing issues with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady.hawke Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Actually, I think that if you reread what I wrote, you'll discover that I am not wrong. My first sentence said, "If you're born in the US, you're a US citizen." I think that if you could find a way to dial down the "I'm speaking to idiots" tone in your posts, you might find people a bit more open to discussing issues with you. You actually wrote this: "If you are born in the US, you're a citizen. If you have at least one parent who is a citizen, you're a citizen. End of story. Tiger is a US citizen and I do believe that they were born here. It has nothing to do with where the mother was born." Perhaps you should dial down. What you wrote was factually wrong. The "end of story" line was quite arrogant, as if you just declared the bottom line opinion. Yet you presume to lecture me on forum behavior. I could not care less about being popular here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 If you are born in the US, you're a citizen. If you have at least one parent who is a citizen, you're a citizen. End of story. Tiger is a US citizen and I do believe that they were born here. It has nothing to do with where the mother was born. I do believe that while other countries may also confer citizenship leading to potential dual citizenship status, such as Elin's native country, in the US at majority it is necessary to choose. I'm not sure the US recognizes the duality. Seems to me like family friends who had Canadian, French and US ties went through this. In the end, they relinquished their US rights for dual French and Canadian (they were born in France, live in Canada, have one US parent by birth, one Canadian by birth). Actually, I think that if you reread what I wrote, you'll discover that I am not wrong. My first sentence said, "If you're born in the US, you're a US citizen." I think that if you could find a way to dial down the "I'm speaking to idiots" tone in your posts, you might find people a bit more open to discussing issues with you. You actually wrote this: "If you are born in the US, you're a citizen. If you have at least one parent who is a citizen, you're a citizen. End of story. Tiger is a US citizen and I do believe that they were born here. It has nothing to do with where the mother was born." Perhaps you should dial down. What you wrote was factually wrong. The "end of story" line was quite arrogant, as if you just declared the bottom line opinion. Yet you presume to lecture me on forum behavior. I could not care less about being popular here. I can see how that might have been confusing for you. So sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I can see how that might have been confusing for you. So sorry. Uhh... catfight? Sorry, had to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 So now Tiger's taking an "indefinite leave" from golf. I'm not surprised by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 So now Tiger's taking an "indefinite leave" from golf. I'm not surprised by this. at least now we'll get to see someone else swing a club on Sunday telecasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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